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#1 steve howe

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 21:23

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The Cornish Riviera Area Group exists as an informal get-together arranged to offer S4 modellers living throughout Cornwall an opportunity to meet and have a natter. We extend a welcome to all modellers interested in finescale modelling who might be interested in coming along for what we hope will become regular sessions. The other objective of the Group is to rebuild and restore the P4 layout 'Watermouth Riverside' and its companion 'Watermouth Junction' which has been in storage by the Falmouth & District Model Railway Club for several years following the death of its owner Pat English. As the Clubrooms are still in the process of being finished and fitted out, we are fortunate to have been offered the opportunity to erect and work on the layout off site in a large secure store room at the rear of Inter City Models shop in Porthleven. The proprietor, Pete Tisdale is a Scalefour modeller and Society member, and also a member of the Falmouth & District MRC. Pete has agreed for the P4 layout to be retained in this location for the foreseeable future, making the possibility of getting the layout up and running a realistic possibility.
1general view looking south.JPG
2general view to the goods yard.JPG

The layout represents a medium sized terminus of an imaginary GWR branch running south from Chard to the coast near Charmouth. Just short of the terminus on the north bank of the estuary at Watermouth Junction, the branch is joined by a GWR/SR line running down from Axminster and Kilmington. The line crosses the tidal estuary by a timber viaduct and enters Watermouth Riverside which is also assumed to have a branch running on to Watermouth Docks. The station draws inspiration from Kingsbridge, Weymouth and Kingswear, Watermouth Docks is assumed to be an embarkation port for steamers to the Continent and the track plan is designed to accomodate busy summer passenger traffic, including a daily Sleeper to London and through trains from the Midlands, London and Taunton as well as local branchline services. In addition to the main terminus, there is also a smaller through station representing the junction for the GWR and SR routes. In the Master Plan, this station lies on the opposite bank of the estuary and a single line section on a timber bridge over the estuary links the two stations. Because this bridge has a weight restriction, 'large' engines come off their trains at the Junction and go to a small MPD, whilst the train is taken on to the main terminus by a lighter locomotive. The corresponding empty stock and light engine workings should allow for a variety of interesting traffic movements.
3general view towards the goods yard and private siding.JPG
4corn merchants.JPG
5The station building and buffet.JPG

The layout was begun over 35 years ago and represents a pioneering example of early P4 modelling. Pat was a meticulous modeller and researcher (he was a History lecturer at Cornwall College by profession) and the layout was designed to strict prototype practice. Originally conceived as a 'U' shape with the stations on either side of the room, it was later rebuilt following a house move into a 'L' shape and the bridge over the estuary and Watermouth Junction were abandoned, (Watermouth Junction was given to another Club member who has also since passed away) Although never developed to a fully scenic finish, enough has survived to make a full restoration feasible, particularly since 'Watermouth Junction' has also since come into Club custody.
6Watermouth north end.JPG

The baseboards were originally constructed on half inch chipboard and 2"x1" timber as was the custom of the time; track is fully chaired 'Brook-Smith' pattern with correct 2 bolt chairs and captures beautifully the 'flow' of the prototype. All this has withstood the years remarkably well, but as the baseboards were altered and rebuilt at various times, the depth of the baseboard members varies from board to board making setting up and dismantling unnecessarily awkward (the layout was never intended for exhibition viewing) Currently we are renewing the main baseboard framing with timber of consistent depth, and updating the alignment and fixing bolts with a more accurate and modern system. Then suitable support legs can be constructed allowing accurate alignment and levelling to be achieved. New baseboards representing the estuary and bridge connecting the two stations have been constructed and a suitable cassette deck system created to replace the original and highly complex fiddle yard that Pat constructed. (This item actually has the potential to form a seperate layout in its own right possibly representing an inner city depot or urban terminus approach)
7The trackwork at Watermouth Junction.JPG
8Watermouth Junction general view.JPG

As can be seen from the photos, the layout even in its present form is impressive, and we hope will encourage other Cornish finescale modellers to join in the project. Currently meetings and working sessions are held on the first and third Saturday of the month at Inter City Models premises in Porthleven, unless Pete is attending an exhibition and the shop is closed. If in doubt, or travelling from a distance, ring one of the contacts below to confirm.

So if you are resident in Cornwall (or Devon) or planning a holiday here, let us know, or call in at InterCity Models in Porthleven (http://www.intercitymodels.com) and have a chat with Pete - or better still buy something! and view the layout.

We hope this will be the start of an exciting project.

Contacts:

Steve Howe
01326 240768

stephenjhowe@btinternet.com



Pete Tisdale
01326 569200

pete@intercitymodels.com

other links:
www.scalefour.org.uk
http://www.scalefour...ps/cornish.html
http://www.scalefour....php?f=75&t=921
www.fmrc.co.uk
www.hvr.org.uk

#2 BlackRat

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 21:52

Gents, an excellent project!

It really is good to see the finescale flag flying well and truly over Kernow!

#3 ColinW

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Posted 10 August 2010 - 15:07

Thats a great start you guys have, will look forward to seeing this one develop.

Colin

#4 Southernboy

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Posted 10 August 2010 - 20:41

As it stands this already has an authentic and 'quality' air to it ... restoration and further development is more exciting still :)

I'll enjoy following this ...

#5 steve howe

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 18:48

Watermouth and Watermouth Junction have now been re-united, at least by baseboards for the first time in many years. The Layout, with the exception of a suitable cassette deck/fiddle yard section, is now free-standing on its own custom built supports, and the framework for the connecting baseboards joining the two sections together has been installed. We now have to consider the construction of the trackbase and bridge section, and the rather daunting task of sorting out the re-wiring.

The pictures below give some idea of the progress so far. With the large scale carpentry largely out of the way, there is a multitude of small jobs concerning trackwork, point control and general fettling which can be undertaken on an individual basis - Cornish S4 modellers we need you!

The layout can be seen at InterCity Models, Holbrook, Porthleven during normal shop opening hours. The next working session is Saturday Sept. 4

Steve

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  • New river estuary baseboards inplace.JPG
  • The new river section.JPG
  • Watermouth from site of  the river bridge.JPG
  • Watermouth Junction looking to river.JPG
  • Watermouth with new river baseboards in place.JPG


#6 Re6/6

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 07:08

This is going to be quite a project. I must look in when on my next visit to Kernow Land!

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 13:41

Good stuff chaps

How long is it since this layout was out and about? I am somewhat ashamed to say I have never heard of it

Cheers

Jim

#8 steve howe

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 14:25

View Postjim s-w, on 29 August 2010 - 13:41 , said:

Good stuff chaps

How long is it since this layout was out and about? I am somewhat ashamed to say I have never heard of it

Cheers

Jim

Jim,

You won't have heard of Watermouth because it was essentially a privately owned layout built by someone who shunned the 'limelight'. Had he not so been, Watermouth would udoubtedly have become as well kown as Heckmondwyke (which it actually pre-dates). It was never exhibited because Pat built it to fit the space he had available which meant odd length baseboards (causing much head scratching from the current restoration team!) We have now managed to rationalise the baseboard sections into 4', 5'and 6' sections with the intention of creating some kind of wheeled rack system so that the sections can be stored safely covered by a polythene tent, and transported easily to shows as it is our definite intention to bring this important piece of modelling into the public eye. If anyone has any experience of building such a rack I'd love to hear about it.

I look forward to seeing Birmingham NS at Carn Brea next week and having an opportunity to chat with you further about the pros and cons of moving a large layout around!!

Cheers now

Steve

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 18:48

Amazing looking layout already!Have to say coming from West Dorset originally Charmouth would've been spoilt with such a station lol.What with the Lyme Regis,Bridport and Abbotsbury branches the old home county would've been spoilt for choice regarding rail transport.

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 19:41

Hi Steve

So pleased the intention is to take the layout out, I would certainly like to see it

Cheers

Jim

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 19:55

Very interested to follow this excellent and worthy project. I believe that one DRAGger has visited your premises and no doubt many of the rest of us will be keen to come and pay a visit from Devon before too long! :)

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 20:29

Steve,

This project I'm sure will be a humdinger when its finished. Congratulations to you and your team for taking on such a restoration.

I look forward to viewing it one day when its ready to go out on the expo circuit.

Cheers, Tony

#13 steve howe

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 22:36

View PostCaptain Kernow, on 29 August 2010 - 19:55 , said:

Very interested to follow this excellent and worthy project. I believe that one DRAGger has visited your premises and no doubt many of the rest of us will be keen to come and pay a visit from Devon before too long! http://www.rmweb.co....fault/smile.gif

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 07:18

View PostCaptain Kernow, on 29 August 2010 - 19:55 , said:

I believe that one DRAGger has visited your premises


It was my fellow Matford builder Peter who was mightily impressed! Similarly, at DRAG, have a much smaller old P4 layout called Swaveney from the Heckmondwyke era which we have inherited from a late member awaiting restoration when time permits, so that we can exhibit it.

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 16:20

Good to know that you are planning to take this to exhibitions, will watch with interest.

Colin





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