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Conflat Clay


ullypug

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Have made a start on a conflat clay for Wheal Elizabeth. Before anyone asks, they were a Boplate E conversion with a couple of cut down ISO 20ft containers with sheets over. I don't know when they were created exactly, but I found a photo of one in Larkin's 'Working Wagons Vol 2 1974-79'. Apparently they ran to Avonmouth which was news to me. I didn't think they exported clay from there. I'll try and post progress. Should look very nice behind a hydraulic...

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Sounds an interesting project, looking forward to seeing how it turns out.

 

Would be interested to hear how long these wagons lasted until, though I suspect it wont be late enough for me!

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that looks good andy - what livery did they wear, bauxite or railfreight?

Bauxite I believe and the containers were pale blue.

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Very interesting - never heard of these before & a Google search only brings up this blog entry :icon_wow: (a "Googlewhack" I think it's called :icon_biggrin: ) Definitely an unusual beasty - nicely done!

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As I mentioned on Ully-Pug's blog, there are photos of orange containers with blue sheets on this traffic- I remember them from working in Avonmouth in 1976/7. They'd presumably be for a flow which would have been too small to justify a even a small ship from Cornwall. There's another shot in one of the more recent Larkin books, page 86 of 'Wagons of the Early British Rail Era'. The wagon in this case was B947880, fitted with cast bogies. Wagons recorded were:-

B947861/5/8/80/95, B947946/86

Larkin reckons the traffic finished in the early 1980s- I wonder if these wagons ended up on the containerised fertilizer/salt traffic from Boulby afterwards, as did so many others?

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As I mentioned on Ully-Pug's blog, there are photos of orange containers with blue sheets on this traffic- I remember them from working in Avonmouth in 1976/7. They'd presumably be for a flow which would have been too small to justify a even a small ship from Cornwall. There's another shot in one of the more recent Larkin books, page 86 of 'Wagons of the Early British Rail Era'. The wagon in this case was B947880, fitted with cast bogies. Wagons recorded were:-

B947861/5/8/80/95, B947946/86

Larkin reckons the traffic finished in the early 1980s- I wonder if these wagons ended up on the containerised fertilizer/salt traffic from Boulby afterwards, as did so many others?

Hmmm, I think I need to go and search out this book - I may even have it in my library. I've seen references to Conflat Coke, Conflat Salt and Conflat Sand.

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Hmmm, I think I need to go and search out this book - I may even have it in my library. I've seen references to Conflat Coke, Conflat Salt and Conflat Sand.

Conflat Coke were the ones that worked from Derwenthaugh to Wakefield Cobra- these went to potash/salt traffic from Teesside.

I haven't heard 'Conflat Sand' before...

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Conflat Coke were the ones that worked from Derwenthaugh to Wakefield Cobra- these went to potash/salt traffic from Teesside.

I haven't heard 'Conflat Sand' before...

I found the book in my library and you're quite right about the container colours. A trip to the paint shop beckons...

 

I haven't found the reference I was looking for though have found a reference to 5 types of converted Boplate. I'll keep looking if only to confirm my sanity status...!

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I found the book in my library and you're quite right about the container colours. A trip to the paint shop beckons...

 

I haven't found the reference I was looking for though have found a reference to 5 types of converted Boplate. I'll keep looking if only to confirm my sanity status...!

The conversions ranged from the type you've modelled, through ones with sides removed, to ones with sides and floor missing (though retaining the ends). All the ones we looked at at Tees Yard were on cast bogies, as these were capable of 60 mph rather than 50. In latter years, many received air-pipes, as there was a regular flow to Avonmouth or Severn Beach from Boulby.

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