LUGSDALE Road (LMS)

It's really looking good. Must be extra difficult to create a sense of mass in N, but it's clearly there.

 

You're on a roll, don't let the D.O. hold you back! (or the B.O. for that matter) 

 Making huge generalisations.....

 

British Pub ground floor windows were usually "frosted" to just above normal eye line, often with a design showing the Brewery owners name or the Pub name. The first floor may have a "meeting or club room" for hire or be dedicated to pub games (darts, billiards/snooker etc. and windows curtained. The second floor would the publican's domestic accommodation. 

The large (taller) window shown in the interior view implies the presence of a staircase   

Until recent years, there would be a panel over the front door showing the publican's name with legend "Licensed to sell Ales, Spirits and Porter" or whatever the local sales restrictions were.

 

These days research is easier, just ask for a soft drink,... " I'm driving"..counters a raised eyebrow and avoids falling into temptation!!   

It's really looking good. Must be extra difficult to create a sense of mass in N, but it's clearly there.

 

You're on a roll, don't let the D.O. hold you back! (or the B.O. for that matter) 

 

Mikkel

 

Thanks for the complements, I think as its nearly the weekend it may be time for me to do some actual research so I may venture into an actual Pub, purely for reasons of research you understand

 Making huge generalisations.....

 

British Pub ground floor windows were usually "frosted" to just above normal eye line, often with a design showing the Brewery owners name or the Pub name. The first floor may have a "meeting or club room" for hire or be dedicated to pub games (darts, billiards/snooker etc. and windows curtained. The second floor would the publican's domestic accommodation. 

The large (taller) window shown in the interior view implies the presence of a staircase   

Until recent years, there would be a panel over the front door showing the publican's name with legend "Licensed to sell Ales, Spirits and Porter" or whatever the local sales restrictions were.

 

These days research is easier, just ask for a soft drink,... " I'm driving"..counters a raised eyebrow and avoids falling into temptation!!   

Thanks for the information, I still have a lot of detail to add before the model is complete, I don't think it will be a quick process

Going into a pub may be misleading. Pub interiors, even the "authentic" real ale variety, do  look very different now from how a pub on the corner of a terraced street would have looked in the 1950s. Here Google is your friend, just do an image search on Pub interiors 1950s (or whatever era you're in) and choose the most typical looking examples to give you more than enough information to model them. Don't forget the kids sitting outside with a bag of crisps because "family friendly" was still in the future. 

 

I had the same problem with my Café de la Gare. I started to put in banquettes, just like in most French cafés, brasseries and bistros I'd ever been in, only to discover that in the 1950s-1960s they were far more likely to have smallish tables with individual chairs which are a lot more work  to model. They also of course look totally different around meal times than at times when everyone is drinking, chatting or playing cards

 

It's always difficult to know how much detail to include in interiors, An empty space just somehow looks empty but it's easy to include far more detail than anyone is ever going to see.   it depends a bit on whether you intend to light them and of course if you actually enjoy modelling interiors.

you could argue that all you're really interested in is what you can see with your eyes (not a camera) from outside at the equivalent of a normal viewing distance- which I'd suggest is the other side of the street- or better still from the top deck of a bus passing on the other side of the road. That won't tell you what's authentic for your period but it might give you an idea of how much you can (and can't) see.

Going into a pub may be misleading. Pub interiors, even the "authentic" real ale variety, do  look very different now from how a pub on the corner of a terraced street would have looked in the 1950s. Here Google is your friend, just do an image search on Pub interiors 1950s (or whatever era you're in) and choose the most typical looking examples to give you more than enough information to model them. Don't forget the kids sitting outside with a bag of crisps because "family friendly" was still in the future. 

 

I had the same problem with my Café de la Gare. I started to put in banquettes, just like in most French cafés, brasseries and bistros I'd ever been in, only to discover that in the 1950s-1960s they were far more likely to have smallish tables with individual chairs which are a lot more work  to model. They also of course look totally different around meal times than at times when everyone is drinking, chatting or playing cards

 

It's always difficult to know how much detail to include in interiors, An empty space just somehow looks empty but it's easy to include far more detail than anyone is ever going to see.   it depends a bit on whether you intend to light them and of course if you actually enjoy modelling interiors.

you could argue that all you're really interested in is what you can see with your eyes (not a camera) from outside at the equivalent of a normal viewing distance- which I'd suggest is the other side of the street- or better still from the top deck of a bus passing on the other side of the road. That won't tell you what's authentic for your period but it might give you an idea of how much you can (and can't) see.

 

Thanks for the advise its been very helpful, a little more research has shown that a lot of the pubs in the northwest leading up to 1948 did not have frosted widows and used curtains.

 

I think I will think about your comment about including the detail you would see from the top of a Bus or Tram and maybe include detail to that level.