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Lugsdale Road - Electrocuting Frogs - OR - Wiring Woes


paulprice

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Well despite MetrOLands very generous help on my last post, I am still having problems thinking about how I will wire the layout, I knew that Electro-frogs would be a little harder than my usual Insul-frog points but who would have thought it would be this hard? :)

 

So any ideas, I have managed to scribble down the track plan, unless it changes again, it does not look that complicated does it? I think this weekend I may have to engaged my brain and work out this wiring mumbo jumbo.
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I must admit I'm quite keen to get track laying as it means I can get my soldering iron out, that is if the Domestic Overlord will give it back to me, I mean one little accident and its confiscated from me........... I mean if I get it back what could possibly go wrong?

 

Until the next time, as ever Happy Modelling :)

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  • RMweb Gold

Can you clarify, are you using one controller or two?  I suspect it's 1 from the diagram but want to be sure.

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  • RMweb Gold

OK I had a bit of time free so am assuming it's only 1 controller and DC.  I reckon you need to feed power in at 5 places (it'll give you practice with soldering!).  Hopefully the places you put insulating joiners are clear.  If I've done it right you're only feeding power in to the 'single' side of any point. 

 

I don't know how much stock you (will) have.  If you don't have many locos then by judicious swicthing of points you can have locos visible but not powered - I've shown just one place where you might want to consider put a switch in so a loco can bring a train and and another hitch onto the back to take the stock out. 

 

43479946202_836be334b1_z.jpgElectrofrog help by Sarah S1ddons, on Flickr

 

I'd recommend you invest in more than 1 colour of wire and eg always have black going to the rails at the 'north' of this diagram and red to the other.  If/when you expand it makes things easier.  I have 2 circuits and 2 controllers and on my current layout found it much easier to have wires at the front of the layout rather than directly underneath.  Solder dropper wires to the rails and then bring them to the front so you're not trying to do too much soldering under the layout with solder dropping into your face!

 

28639990077_70623d9cb3_z.jpgBus wiring and droppers by Sarah S1ddons, on Flickr

 

You have in effect a number of facing crossovers here.  As you're working in N gauge you may not have the problem I had with older Lima/Hornby stock.  A number or rmwebbers gave me help in 2015 here if you find some locos run through crossovers but ones don't: 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/99438-help-was-lima-and-electrofrog-crossovers/

 

Finally let me say electrofrogs were a black art to me 7 or 8 years ago but I'm so glad I persevered a bit, due to the improved running qualities.  Once you get your head around it and it clicks, it'll become 2nd nature

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  • RMweb Gold

Oops, just realised....  if you do want to put a switch in the bottom road as at X, then the power needs to come in to the right of the switch

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Can you clarify, are you using one controller or two?  I suspect it's 1 from the diagram but want to be sure.I

I think to make things simpler I will use one controller

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OK I had a bit of time free so am assuming it's only 1 controller and DC.  I reckon you need to feed power in at 5 places (it'll give you practice with soldering!).  Hopefully the places you put insulating joiners are clear.  If I've done it right you're only feeding power in to the 'single' side of any point. 

 

I don't know how much stock you (will) have.  If you don't have many locos then by judicious swicthing of points you can have locos visible but not powered - I've shown just one place where you might want to consider put a switch in so a loco can bring a train and and another hitch onto the back to take the stock out. 

 

43479946202_836be334b1_z.jpgElectrofrog help by Sarah S1ddons, on Flickr

 

I'd recommend you invest in more than 1 colour of wire and eg always have black going to the rails at the 'north' of this diagram and red to the other.  If/when you expand it makes things easier.  I have 2 circuits and 2 controllers and on my current layout found it much easier to have wires at the front of the layout rather than directly underneath.  Solder dropper wires to the rails and then bring them to the front so you're not trying to do too much soldering under the layout with solder dropping into your face!

 

28639990077_70623d9cb3_z.jpgBus wiring and droppers by Sarah S1ddons, on Flickr

 

You have in effect a number of facing crossovers here.  As you're working in N gauge you may not have the problem I had with older Lima/Hornby stock.  A number or rmwebbers gave me help in 2015 here if you find some locos run through crossovers but ones don't: 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/99438-help-was-lima-and-electrofrog-crossovers/

 

Finally let me say electrofrogs were a black art to me 7 or 8 years ago but I'm so glad I persevered a bit, due to the improved running qualities.  Once you get your head around it and it clicks, it'll become 2nd nature

 

MetrOLand  you are an absolute star, thanks for all your help, the layout will be DC and that modern DCC stuff will never take off

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