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Patriot Games


Barry Ten

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Way back when...

 

The better part of ten years ago, I made a post on RMweb about building a Fowler tender for a parallel boiler Patriot project:

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=18410&hilit=patriot

 

At that point, the tender was all that was needed to finish a modelling job that was itself a couple of years old.

 

I'd had a Hornby Patriot for many years (I think it was a 15th birthday present, not long after the original model
was released) but the model had become a non-runner due to gradual deterioration of the tender drive, for one
reason or another. Perhaps it could have been serviced but my thinking at the time was that it would be better
to have a loco-drive version, and as it happened I had a spare Bachmann chassis from their taper-boiler Patriot
model. I then set about modifying both the Bachmann chassis and the Hornby body until they fitted together
acceptably well, a task which turned out to involve a lot more filing and filling than I'd anticipated, not least when
- during an over-enthusiastic bout of filing the body - I managed to break right through the boiler!

 

The model was eventually repaired, and even got to the point of being painted and prepared for lining, along
with the tender. But then disaster struck (again) when I decided I wanted it to run on DCC, and I dismantled
and reassembled the Bachmann split chassis to add a decoder. Unfortunately the chassis must have been
on its last legs (it was second hand when I bought it) as the wheel muffs gave away, aloing with much of
the valve gear, and despite my best efforts I could never get it to run acceptably.

 

So - back to the drawing board, and a few years go by, until finally I decided to substitute a Comet chassis
for the failing Bachmann one:

 

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This was a timely project as I'd just removed a DJH motor/gearbox from Banbury Castle, as I felt that it wasn't geared
sufficiently speedily for the GWR loco, but it would suit the Patriot very well. The recycled motor was therefore
installed in the Patriot chassis. It's now back to front compared to the configuration in the Castle, so forward is
now reverse, but after some running-in it's settled in nicely.

 

The valve gear was my third attempt at outside Walschaerts and this time the first to be assembled using
brass pins, rather than rivets. I got on better with the pins as I found them quicker and more precise than rivets,
which I'd always found a bit hit and miss as to how tight they end up.

 

The loco will now be reunited with the tender, lined in BR green and named as Lady Godiva - and get a decoder,
of course, for which there's still plenty of room in the boiler.

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I do like the idea of re-vamping and upgrading ones older RTR models, that's looking very fine, Al.

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Thanks, CK. I think I'm coming around to Tony Wright's point of view that it's more satisfying to own a model that one's made or altered oneself, even if it's not perfect, than simply purchasing the equivalent RTR one. The only thing I "demand" is that it runs well, and if the basic shape is OK, I can tolerate some of the details being less fine, or even absent. Tarting up 1970s/1980s era models is fun as far as I'm concerned as the bodies are generally pretty good, it's just the mechanisms that tended to let them down.

 

That's not to say I don't enjoy a bit of RTR retail therapy!

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I've got one somewhere too - original chassis married to the tender off an Airfix 4F - slightly more like the real thing than the original Hornby offering. But this does just go to show how basically good and largely dimensionally correct from running plate up many of the older Hornby models can be.

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The original Hornby Patriot was the subject of a particularly scathing review in Model Trains, if I remember correctly, where the loco was praised, but the tender canned for being awkwardly proportioned, presumably to fit an existing chassis unit.

 

Later on, Railway Modeller had an article showing how the tender body could be cut down and narrowed quite convincingly, and the chassis modified a little, resulting in a good improvement. Rather than try and cut/shunt the body, I scratchbuilt my own tender top (twice) but I could never get the model to run properly after that. As for the Airfix 4F tender, I've got a few of those (in 4Fs and 2Ps)  and in my view they run extremely well on DCC, even with a basic decoder, and provided they're kept lubricated, they're not overly noisy.

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Definitely agree with idea of upgrading older models if they are up to it. Currently putting a Comet chassis under a Mainline Rebuilt Scot and have just finished putting a decoder into a split chassis parallel boiler and fitting tender pickups. Not the most difficult jobs i know , but a challenge for the first attempt and very satisfying when you find it all works. A way of increasing loco stock at a reasonable cost.

Some nice work on your chassis build.

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I have a split chassis parallel boiler Scot that runs like a treat, so I'm loathe to touch it! But it could do with a decoder.

 

I agree that these jobs are very satisfying when they go well. I still approach each chassis with trepidation as I haven't done anywhere near

enough not to be worried about cocking up some stage of it. I think it helps when you know that the basic components are well designed,

as with Comet, so you're not fighting some basic discrepancy that isn't your own fault. I look forward to seeing your Rebuilt Scot.

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