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Taking the (idea from) Mickey...


bcnPete

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Good morning,

 

Having submitted my entry for the 2011 diorama comp (just need to set up the summary topic) my thoughts now turn to the next few months of modelling.

 

Whilst I am obviously still keen to carry on with this layout, I have decided to spend between now and Christmas revisiting my 'Kyle in a Boxfile' layout. I never finished the station building and whilst at it a number of things need doing...and redoing, for example the backscene and bringing the layout up to scratch. I always said I would revisit it when the new Dapol 26 arrived....and now it has I have to honour my self promise.

 

I also hope to create some additional rolling stock for the layout using Bryn's '2mmFS build off' as a kick start on my collection of Stephen Harris wagon kits.

 

Back to Coombe Junction - Moorswater and indeed the title for this blog entry.

 

When I first joined RMWeb 3 and introduced my layout, Mickey was one of the first (and Ramblin Rich a close second I recall) to ask whether I was going to include the gradient to Liskeard...and indeed the 'real Coombe Junction'. When planning the layout I had done various sketches and scenarios to include it, but with a planned maximum of 3 IKEA lack shelves, I decided to omit it and include Moorswater dries which I felt was a nice 'gritty' balance to the leafy green branch line.

 

During this years summer vacation to Looe, I became enchanted by the history of the quayside and upon return I relooked at all my books on the branch and thought that a separate model of Looe, during steam years would make a nice model....something as per this sketch...

 

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The fiddleyard would be separate cassettes etc...

 

I must admit, I was quite taken by this as a layout idea...seeing Prairies along the quay side...and B sets in the station :O ...and even began a search for a Dapol Prairie and B set on ebay...but they seem quite rare these days...and I also thought 'do I really want to start another layout?'...and stay married? :D ...so I put this one on ice for a long while.

 

My thoughts then turned back to extending my layout instead and incorporating not only the start of the incline to Liskeard...but also a stretch of the line to Looe (omitting all the other halts between) This of course would be the 'much stripped back Looe', consisting of a platform and bus shelter as I first visited it 30 years ago as a 15 year old...and my on/off romance with the Looe line began :wub:

 

So herewith the idea to extend the layout from 3.3 metres to 5.5 metres overall, using, you guessed it, 2 more IKEA lack shelves.

 

The idea is to modify the fiddleyard board, by removing the fiddleyard and incorporating a cassette feeder system behind the backscene. The incline will pass behind concealed by trees (there is a small bridge too I recall that could work as a scenic break) and the lower line continues through a tree lined meander, and finally meeting the river where it terminates at the station. One thing it will allow is somewhere to be able to run my Bubble car / 101 DMU's rather than them presently shuttling between Coombe Junction and the fiddle yard.

 

A few sketches to illustrate this...

 

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Initial espresso fueled sketch in plan...

 

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And 3D sketch of new boards...

 

Seeing as I already have a 1:10 model of the overall scheme as exists at present...

 

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I thought I could map out the above and see how it feels...as per this...

 

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The red line is the cut showing the modifications...

 

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The view looking towards both Liskeard and Looe...

 

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The view from Looe...

 

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The cassettes will be on storage ledges on the back of the backscene...

 

That said...I am not about to embark on this straight away :O Using the momentum built up from the diorama competition entry, I would like to try and complete the 3 current boards to the same sort of finish as the diorama to be able to run the layout possibly even exhibiting it if possible and then begin the extension as a separate exercise. I did however promise Mickey that I would share the future plans on 2 October as I didn't want to derail myself from focus on the diorama.

 

Now...in the meantime...where did I stash those Scottish Boxfiles?... :D

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I think that you need a break between Looe and Combe, otherwise it could look very strange.

 

p.s. see you pm about b sets

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Looks fantastic already!Very interested in seeing this go ahead. ~ Gary

 

Many thank Gary...

 

I think that you need a break between Looe and Combe, otherwise it could look very strange. p.s. see you pm about b sets

 

PM sorted Kris - Thanks - The trouble is I think, it will look too cramped with another halt in between...and I did consider adding in another board, but then it would be mostly treelined...and take the layout to 6.6 metres overall...that's double what I have now and too long to be considered a bedside light I feel!

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A little troll on RMWeb 3 and I found both Mickey and Ramblin's comments....

 

Mickey (the artist formely known as Blazey Bridge2 on RMWeb 3!)

 

"Only a thought but....

 

maybe missing out the Moorswater Viaduct altogether and instead being able to fit the actual Junction and the rising and falling gradients from there, could well be more interesting visually and operationally and definately a lot easier to achive than having a foot-high viaduct section over a pretty narrow board...."

 

Followed by Ramblin's addition....

 

"I'd agree with what Blazey Bridge2 says here but I think that means all the board spacing goes to pot (unless you build 2 half boards!). I do think that the split gradients of the Moorswater / Looe lines is a key feature though & one I'm trying to incorporate into my Coombe-ish plans...."

 

 

Miss out Moorswater Viaduct...Are you sure?...

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The 2011 challenge has you fring on all cylinders now. I rather like the bus shelter and plastform by the water and if you could make that hide the fy for the clays thats a double plus. Yes the prairie and bsets would be v nice but admit it BR blue is your first love so build that to go with the dries, and keep the prairie and quays for later.

Meanwhile I look forward to seing more of Kyle it was your efforts with Kyle together with Missy's Highclere that made me want to have another go at 2mm. I particularly like the way you compressed things without spoiling it.

Don

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I like it (as always...) and really love the 3D visualisations you've done.

Since you're talking about Looe now, take a look at this image of a full size Looe - in OO...?

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will the domestic authorities allow this ?

as with my other layouts, initial plans will be prepared....but no discussions will take place...

 

The 2011 challenge has you fring on all cylinders now. I rather like the bus shelter and plastform by the water and if you could make that hide the fy for the clays thats a double plus. Yes the prairie and bsets would be v nice but admit it BR blue is your first love so build that to go with the dries, and keep the prairie and quays for later.Meanwhile I look forward to seing more of Kyle it was your efforts with Kyle together with Missy's Highclere that made me want to have another go at 2mm. I particularly like the way you compressed things without spoiling it.Don

 

Many thanks Don - Your right...stick with BR Blue is probably best for me. Thanks for the kind words re KIAB...that will be making a re-appearance with its own blog sometime this week I think...

 

I like it (as always...) and really love the 3D visualisations you've done.Since you're talking about Looe now, take a look at this image of a full size Looe - in OO...?

 

Thanks Rich...Interesting photo that...do ya think its vandalism or photoshop....or both!

 

 

Now I am awaiting Mickey to comment...as thanks are also due to him of course for this...

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And here I am! Definatley worth the suspense of waiting - thanks for giving this preview of your plans. I was on the Netbook yesterday so it was rather like looking at your excellent drawings through opera glasses the wrong way round!

 

The new version of the 1:10 proving model is exactly as I imagined you to have imagined it - you can tell why you are an architect, you've got that "vision thing" down to a T :)

 

To me it most certainly compliments and completes the whole project - for some reason the slight turn of the line towards the rear of the layout at the terminus adds a bit of extra "Looe-ness" - possibly 'cos it allows for a bit of extra water (or mud!) which to me is the defining feature of the station.

 

I really can't wait to see this one take shape (after Xmas of course!)

 

so onwards and upwards with Kyle

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And here I am!

 

Many thanks Mickey...and for being persistent about me getting my head around it!

 

You will see some changes between the sketches and the model...which is how I work in my 'day job'...refining between model and sketch and so forth...except that during an economic crisis peeps tend to not build much...especialmente en espagne :-(

 

I was just looking at my diorama yesterday and trying to imagine repeating that amount of detailing of the 11" module across the length of the layout in current 3.3 metre format (does that make sense?)

 

Perhaps the best way forward in 2012 is to bed in the viaduct and Brunel pier on the moorswater board and finish the dries complex, then working back towards Coombe Junction. By the time I reach the fiddleyard...who knows....I might even be laying out the new shelves/ trackbed for the extension!

 

Thanks again all for the continued interest in this project...

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