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Castled - An appendage or Achilles Heel?


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Following from my earlier Blog I have been asked by a friend whether I have had any problems with the front bogie of the latest Hornby Super Detail Castles. In short the answer is 'no'.

 

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Seemingly there is a recent review in the model railway press that says that on first removal from the box, the front bogie was detached. I have included a few pictures here of the bogie on my Castle highlighting what I would describe as Hornby's cheap and cheerful means of attachment.

 

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Underside of Castle

 

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Bogie Disassembled

 

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The Pivot Pin with Retaining Collar

 

When the engine is lifted from the track Hornby have provided a tiny plastic collar glued to the top of the bogie pivot pin to stop the bogie dropping off. I guess the success of this system relies heavily on the amount of glue originally used. However I would say that the design is easily repairable. For example if the plastic collar is missing, all that is required is a piece of plastic insulation say from off the conductor of some relatively heavy copper cable (ring main).

 

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The use of plastic insulation brings to mind another Hornby 'success' story - Speedo Cables:

 

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Upgraded Speedo Cable

 

In my opinion the nylon Speedo Cable as supplied by Hornby is rather too rough and ready! As well as lacking a credible appearance it seems to me to be not fit for purpose, being brittle and likely to break whilst at the same time being too rigid and affecting the smooth running of the locomotive. After replacing the cable on my Super Detail Princess Royal for the second time I decided to look at cheaper and I think visually better alternatives. Why not use very thin plastic insulation? I don't think I even needed any glue, simply poking the broken ends of the Hornby Speedo Cable into the hollow plastic tube left after stripping the wire.

 

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I guess any suitable fine wire will do. If it means anything to anyone, the label on my reel of wire was as follows:

 

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The bogie pivot point looks shockingly woeful for a model that commands a £100+ price tag to my mind.

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Kelly, yes - I did think of posting a picture of my Bachmann A2 for comparison.

 

If it'd of been a Railroad model, then I'd still of been less than impressed, as I'd expect those to be simple yet rugged.

 

Bad on Hornby I think this one.

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Hello Kelly,

 

I don't want to be critical of a British Company but I have overseas friends who are not happy about the astronomical prices and the rather indifferent quality of Hornby products.

 

I feel sorry for the retailers who have to pick up the pieces (literally).

 

Regards Ray

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When I read the review in BRM Magazine, I did wonder if that had been a 'one off' model that had escaped from the factory with perhaps a temporary fitting used during the assembly process, but seemingly not. Very disappointing for a premium priced model,even moreso I wouldn't want to be paying the price of a sound fitted version with a decidedly 'Cheap' but not exactly 'cheerful' piece of engineering (?) like that.

I don't do 'sound', but am thinking of a friend who does and has been considering the Castle. He needs a warning about this.

 

Regards,

 

John

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John,

The same point was made by Kelly in February when the Blog was first posted. I can now add three months on that my four Castles all perform very well and the massive can motor is in a different class to the old Dapol / Hornby ' so called 'ringfield' motor.

http://youtu.be/ud-nhB0FL60

The introduction of the Dapol engine driven Castle was I think one of the biggest disappointments of the 1980s and I converted a couple back to Airfix type tender drives - including a Hawksworth version of 'Swindon' which I still run.

http://www.flickr.co...eds/6635395915/

Regards Ray

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..............that on first removal from the box, the front bogie was detached..................

 

 

Thanks Ray. What a valuable resource you blog is for identifying and curing problems.

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Thanks Ronnie

......identifying and curing problems.

I have been trying to keep up with your latest Castle saga. RMweb is a fantastic resource.

 

I am thinking that you too must have acquired a Date with the Duchy - mine was a 'second' direct from Hornby.  It turned out rather well in the end after a new set of wheels - something that I seem to have had to do with a lot of Hornby's recent offerings (full price as well as 'seconds'.)

 

Keep up the good work

 

Regards

 

Ray

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I opened my Date with the Duchy, Barry Freeman pack today to find my castle with this awful set up. The pack wasn't cheap at

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Hello Simon - good to have your thoughts.  I too think Hornby's Castles are rather well detailed.

. Hopefully a 1 off as the models there producing are exceptionally well detailed. Simon

The Castles also run well - especially with a bit of extra weight inside them.  There are a some shots at the end of this short video to encourage you.

 

I am guessing yo have seen my comments specifically about the Date with the Duchy.  As regards value and money I would simply point to the second hand value of these engines - particularly 'Swindon' produced for the Great Western Museum.

 

I have to say that I have had more quality control issues with Hornby's models this year than with the older Castles.  I shall be interested to hear how your runs.

 

Regards

 

Ray

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