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Pullmans - riding high (and getting closer)


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Bachmann are gearing up to launch their new Blue Pullman. Here I am just getting to grips with my version of the Tees Tyne Pullman:

 

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For some time I have been collecting together a rake of Bachmann Mk1 saloons and have also acquired two Hornby Brake Cars. Stringing the cars out for the first time raised a couple of issues. Firstly the ride heights of the Bachmann saloons were not all the same and then there was the perennial problem of the 'gap' between the coaches.

 

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If you have 30 inch or more curves, the gap between the Bachmann Mk1s can be sorted by substituting Hornby R8220 couplings.

 

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For use with Bachmann Mk1s the Hornby R8220 couplings need a slight modification, the leading edge of the connector needs to be chamfered as shown above to ensure that the coupling does not get trapped under the coach end.

 

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Hornby super detail Pullman Coaches are supplied with alternative R8220 couplings which can be used without modification. However the coupling pockets on the Hornby and Bachmann coaches are at different heights and if the track is at all uneven there will be a tendency to auto uncouple where least expected - very annoying. Also when the R8220 couplings are used on the Hornby stock the resulting gap between coaches is to my mind still too large. Recommendations elsewhere on RMweb are to substitute Roco 40720 couplings which are apparently shorter and the correct height when used with a Hornby coach for coupling with a Bachmann Mk1. I think the Roco 40720 couplings are expensive in small quantities and are not as readily available as the Hornby product.

 

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My solution was to butcher the Hornby R8220 coupling. I first pared away at the back of the coupling so that it could be pushed further into the pocket to allow closer coupling. I then separated the top of the coupling and repositioned it at a lower level, gluing it into a step cut into the back of the coupling block. I used an instant glue. So far so good, however there is also room to drill and pin using a 0.5mm twist bit.

 

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With regard to the differing ride heights of the Bachmann saloons there seemed to me to be two problems. On some coaches the wiring / light guides needed to be repositioned to allow the seating unit to fully engage with the chassis. This was achieved by removing the four screws holding the brown plastic seating unit to the black chassis and then gently easing the light guides into a better position using a fine screw driver.

 

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On other coaches the body was cambered up to the middle with the result that the chassis and coach ends were being forced down. The black coach chassis is screwed to the brown seating unit to form a very rigid structure which is then fixed to the coach body using four pairs of clips equally spaced along each side of the coach.

 

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The chassis clips engage with pockets in the glazing. To encourage the ends of each coach to have the same ride height I shaved some plastic from the bottom of the two middle glazing pockets which should then allow the middle of the coach to bow upwards without affecting the chassis.

 

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The view above shows what can be achieved for minimal cost using readily available components.

 

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A word of warning - the Bachmann lamp shades appear only to be push fit onto the light guides. The shades are incredibly small and can be very difficult to find if dislodged.

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Hi ray,

 

I've just come across this mod as I go through your work - your engineering background certainly shows. Excellent advice, simply presented with nigh-on perfect photography.

 

The gap on my Hornby Pullmans has been annoying me for some time. My curves are mainly 3' plus so the mod is not a problem.

 

Cheers,

 

Tony.

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Hello Tony

 

Glad that you could follow it!  Bachmann have just changed the design of the underframes for their Mk1 coaches so that they can use ordinary straight couplings.  This might cause difficulties with height when using Hornby R8220 couplings together in old and new Bachmann Mk1s.

 

Nothing is seems is constant - and eventually life moves on, good luck.

 

Ray

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Glad that you could follow it!  Bachmann have just changed the design of the underframes for their Mk1 coaches so that they can use ordinary straight couplings.  This might cause difficulties with height when using Hornby R8220 couplings together in old and new Bachmann Mk1s.

 

Nothing is seems is constant - and eventually life moves on, good luck.

 

I had considered that after reading your blog on the Bachmann Sleeping Cars.  The Bachmann 36-027 (short and stepped) tension lock coupling is what I have been using for close coupling, with I believe satisfactory results.  The equivalent short and straight tension lock couplings (supplied with some Bachmann locomotives and many of their wagons) is not for sale separately in the shops, although I have previously been able to source small numbers from the service department.  I assume the soon to be released air conditioned Mk2s on pre order will share the underframe change with regard to the NEM pockets.

 

Alun

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Hi Alun

 

I am sure that Bachmann used to sell little packets of the straight couplings - in fact I think they have been available in the past with and without the NEM pockets used when attaching to wagons.  If the coulpings are not currently available then they do come up for sale on eBay when modellers remove the Bachmann couplings to fit three link or KDees.

 

Regards

 

Ray

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Hi Ray,

 

I must send you an update, hoping to get two 4' x 4' boards in place tomorrow and then I'll know more about what is realistic in terms of the space available.

 

I've become something of a Bachmann tension lock coupling bore over the past few months or so.  In terms of short couplings, there's the 36-025 which is screwed into its mount and the 36-061 with the NEM fitting.  Neither are as short as the cranked (or stepped) 36-027 although there is a straight equivalent which is used in the newer tooling Class 03 (for example) and many of the wagons.  I've only been able to get them from the service department and they apparently don't have a model number.

 

Did you ever have any of the early release Bachmann Type 2s?  They had a coupling which was only available from "the factory" as well.  I ended up having to buy new bogie frames from eBay to bring one back to life.

Alun

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