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kyle 2015 - lights, camera...and a little (tr)action...

Posted by bcnPete , 07 March 2015 · 1,120 views

Good evening,

Time for an update...

Work doesn't seem to be allowing any windows to do any modelling after work in the evenings at present so progress is focussed around weekend slots in between family duties.

The wiring has been simplified (how can it be complicated on a layout such as this you ask :)) but in the main down to the fact that it was originally constructed 5 years ago in 300mm sections to get in my box files/suitcase, so lots of jump wires etc. A test class 47 managed to navigate all areas of track with a few bits of filing required to turnouts and some further tweaking.

After trying to come up with a simple option to link the fiddleyard tracks using sliding brass sleeved sections I finally decided to run the power on the underside to the far end and use crocodile clips attached to brass tubes soldered to the end of the roads - at least this will hopefully keep the operator alert by physically having to move them during train movements.

I also decided to rethink the lighting and rather than using my favourite IKEA LED strips, this time I have opted for a 'Screw-fix' linear fitting. One has been mounted behind the front fascia which seems to throw light evenly on the back scene which I decided was more important than on the water and another in the Fiddleyard.

I took the opportunity of making a small shelf which can hold additional rolling stock if need be and this also allowed me to attach the light to the underside of it. The two lights have been connected together by the cable supplied although this has been somewhat shortened.

Overall this should now give a good coverage to both the scenics and non scenic section rather than relying solely on exhibition lighting...usually in the form of Sportshall/Gymnasium toplight. I think it gives a nice glow to the Fiddleyard from the letterbox slot too.

Here's a few pics:

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view front left...

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view front right...

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fiddleyard showing low tech power solution...

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stock tray incorporated...

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clocks ticking...

Comments welcomed as usual...

Pete
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Looking good Pete!  But why test with a 47 when an EE Type 3 would be more appropriate, surely? 

 

The lighting really sets the mood - there will always be enough ambient light at exhibitions to show up some of the detail on the harbour wall that would otherwise be in the dark.

 

On electrics - why not switch to DCC and have all tracks live all of the time?

 

Graham

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Rammstein2609
Mar 07 2015 23:44

Basically copying what Graham said above, Looking Good!  The lighting really does set the mood along with the back scene.

 

Hopefully I can create a similar mood on Rannoch when I get around to doing the scenic boards.

 

Martin

Looking good Pete!  But why test with a 47 when an EE Type 3 would be more appropriate, surely? 
 
The lighting really sets the mood - there will always be enough ambient light at exhibitions to show up some of the detail on the harbour wall that would otherwise be in the dark.
 
On electrics - why not switch to DCC and have all tracks live all of the time?
 


Thanks Graham - the main reason for using the 47 is that I have sent my 24/26/27 and 37 wheels all to Mr Solloway for turning down so it's one of the few locos I have with 2FS wheels :) Basically, I have fallen behind with re wheeling locos so I have a backlog that need converting so am picking off the more immediate ones requiring attention.

One day I hope to make the break to DCC but it's a question of available surplus cash at present...meantime I am doing the lotto every week :D

Basically copying what Graham said above, Looking Good!  The lighting really does set the mood along with the back scene.
 
Hopefully I can create a similar mood on Rannoch when I get around to doing the scenic boards.
 

Thanks also Martin - I think with the lighting, Jerry's point about getting it in early to allow the scenics/colours to be matched to that is a very valid point - I need to look at this in more detail as my screwfix additions are a bit late to the Kyle party...;)
Hi Pete,

I definitely think that some lighting in the fiddle yard is a good plan. Sports halls are one thing but last year we were up on the stage at St Albans. Fairly subdued overhead lighting and the wall behind us painted black - we couldn't see a thing when anything needed doing in the fiddle yard.

I've not come across the Screwfix strips. Are these LEDs too? How do they compare in terms of output with the Ikea stuff?

Regards, Andy

Hi Pete,I definitely think that some lighting in the fiddle yard is a good plan. Sports halls are one thing but last year we were up on the stage at St Albans. Fairly subdued overhead lighting and the wall behind us painted black - we couldn't see a thing when anything needed doing in the fiddle yard.I've not come across the Screwfix strips. Are these LEDs too? How do they compare in terms of output with the Ikea stuff?


Hi Andy - yes they are LED's - they seem quite bright (can't recall what the IKEA ones were now) and here's a link to the one I used...usual disclaimer :D satisfied customer so far etc...

http://www.screwfix....CFSOWtAodE28Avw

I would advise forgetting about DCC at the moment not something to change with an exhibition looming.  The croc clips should be fine and you can easily isolate any road. I may get to the exhibition I would like a chance to see this in the flesh.

Don

I would advise forgetting about DCC at the moment not something to change with an exhibition looming.  The croc clips should be fine and you can easily isolate any road. I may get to the exhibition I would like a chance to see this in the flesh.


Definately no chance of DCC at the moment Don! Yes the croc clips are not that glamourous and may be swapped out for brass rods that sleeve into the tube but am now going to turn my attention to the scenics and rolling stock.
Would be good to finally meet you if you come along...I think we were in the same room at the 2010 2mm EXPO but never crossed paths...we might even had been standing side by side watching the same layouts :D

Very effective lighting,  Pete! There's an almost divine light on the backscene that works really well (how about a 2mm representation of Moses on the mountain?!).

 

The letterbox effect is very attractive, that whole way of presenting a fiddle yard is pretty innovative I think. Don't hide it, highlight it!

 

I hadn't really thought about the open right-hand end before, but it's a good illustration that we don't really need scenic breaks at both ends of a layout. The eye is willing to accept a sudden visual cut-off point as long as it carefully considered.

Very effective lighting,  Pete! There's an almost divine light on the backscene that works really well (how about a 2mm representation of Moses on the mountain?!).
 
The letterbox effect is very attractive, that whole way of presenting a fiddle yard is pretty innovative I think. Don't hide it, highlight it!
 
I hadn't really thought about the open right-hand end before, but it's a good illustration that we don't really need scenic breaks at both ends of a layout. The eye is willing to accept a sudden visual cut-off point as long as it carefully considered.


Many thanks Mikkel - think I will leave the 2mm Moses off incase there is a sudden change in the water of the Loch ;)

In terms of the letterbox, it came from the 'how do you turn a problem into a feature' concept...the need to slide the tray out further than the skinny limits allowed but realising it could serve as a teaser. I wonder as well whether subconsciously it also came from the BHMRC 'Thornbury Hill' layout (still on the circuit) which has two 6ft train turntables at each end and periodically the punters are warned 'mind your heads' as they are turned 180 degrees...who knows :)

The original Kyle built 2010 had a 90 degree end return which restricted photos somewhat - all credit to Rich Brummitt for suggesting I lose the end support, cantilever the corner and keep the end open...



Evening Pete,

 

Bit slow on the uptake here! :o

 

Lovely work once more...the lighting looks just about right.  Nice work! ;)

 

Agree with Graham as well.  Needs a nice Class 156........Sorry don't know what came over me....Class 37 on there! :D

 

Hope to see another update soon! No pressure.... ;)

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

Evening Pete,
 
Bit slow on the uptake here! :o
 
Lovely work once more...the lighting looks just about right.  Nice work! ;)
 
Agree with Graham as well.  Needs a nice Class 156........Sorry don't know what came over me....Class 37 on there! :D
 
Hope to see another update soon! No pressure.... ;)
 


Hi Mark,

Thanks for this - never too late for comments ;)

Funny you should mention 156... I remember I bought a RR 156 for this which might just get to stretch its legs on the layout at the end of the day.

Rest assured, another update will follow... :D

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