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kyle 2015 - absolutely van-tastic...

Posted by bcnPete , 10 April 2015 · 1,200 views

Evening all,

Quick update on progress around Easter - my recently returned turned down wheels were reinserted and after a second period of running in on the rolling road the locos were tried on the layout - some fettling was required to the two turnouts so the bare solder may be visible in some pics below prior to getting retouched in with a paint brush.

With most of the big tasks for scenery, lighting and wiring undertaken my attention has now turned to the rolling stock. My primary aim is to keep it simple as per Gary's wonderful EM Glenuig and have three primary trains operating - 1 passenger, 1 parcels and 1 freight. Some shunting of these will hopefully break this down into further sub divisions...depending upon how many DG's get mounted in time ;)

One primary requirement for Kyle was a rake of 12T vans. My earlier versions date back to a mixture of Peco, Grafar and Lima :o so this needed updating. One look at the chassis etches for the 5 Stephen Harris kits I have, with a note made 4 years ago to 'ring for instructions over the phone' was not something that I could see happening swiftly from my side and having only made one Association chassis etch so far for my China clay layout, now was not the right time.

My back up plan initially was to buy a fleet of Farish vans and re wheel them to 2FS standards and eventually replace the chassis for them, however when looking at the costs for a set of wheels for each it sort of made sense to put this money towards the new chassis as the axle lengths would be different and I would have the wheels surplus to requirements. Decision made, order forms completed and all the bits arrived just prior to Easter, which was perfect as I had taken this week off work to use up 2014 holiday.

My first chassis build took me 4 hours :o and that didn't include the axle boxes and DG couplings - I was feeling a little underwhelmed at the thought of the 7 others to complete...however I got stuck in deciding to get a production line going so as to see the fleet growing rather than on a wagon by wagon basis. One oversight made was that I had ordered all 10ft chassis however I also ordered a couple of the Farish cattle vans for a mix and these are 11ft chassis - my back up plan was to ream out the plastic, fit in some top hats and drop in some 2FS wheels - short term solution in case I run out of time to replace them.

As usual my soldering skills have been pushed to the limits and I confess to using some cyno adhesive in some parts...interesting fumes this gives off when you put the iron where previously there had been glue :no: Today has seen the six wagons completed to a point where they need a good clean, scrub and prime prior to seating beneath the Farish rtr bodies. I have just rested them on top for now to see how they look.

A quick test run of the 26 pushing them into the sidings this evening was very satisfying as it does really make a difference to the running quality and they are visually more delicate in appearance too.

Need to move onto the locos quite soon...still plenty to do. Few pics below:

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Farish cattle vans with 2FS wheels as short term solution...

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Work in progress...

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New chassis awaiting clean up and painting...

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26 awaiting to leave...

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Dapol 26 re wheeled...

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Kyle finally has some vans...

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Time is marching on...

Comments welcome as usual,

Pete
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Excellent, Pete! Another wagon freak in the making. I do love a line of vans and very typical of freights to the Kyle.
35 days to go. I'm sure that your little layout will be a great success.

David
Those chassis do take a while to put together Pete, so 4 hours doesn't seem terrible to me.

Not all of the chassis kits are created equal either - some go together comparatively quickly and without problems while others seem quite resistant to going together... just don't plan on too many steel bodied 'High's ;)

Regards, Andy

Excellent, Pete! Another wagon freak in the making. I do love a line of vans and very typical of freights to the Kyle.35 days to go. I'm sure that your little layout will be a great success.


Many thanks David - it could become addictive this wagon making.
As mentioned, any shots of Kyle usually contain lines of vans, especially the mirror side of the station.

Those chassis do take a while to put together Pete, so 4 hours doesn't seem terrible to me.Not all of the chassis kits are created equal either - some go together comparatively quickly and without problems while others seem quite resistant to going together... just don't plan on too many steel bodied 'High's

Thanks also Andy - yes, there is definitely some things that went together better second time around but I think I need more practice before I tackle SH's kits.

Thanks also Andy - yes, there is definitely some things that went together better second time around but I think I need more practice before I tackle SH's kits.


I was talking about the Association chassis kits, of which some are better than others.

Stephen Harris's kits have a good reputation but I can only comment from experience on the 35T oil tanks. These have a lot of bits (as you would expect with such a vehicle) but if you are methodical and follow the instructions they go together very well.

Regards, Andy

I was talking about the Association chassis kits, of which some are better than others.Stephen Harris's kits have a good reputation but I can only comment from experience on the 35T oil tanks. These have a lot of bits (as you would expect with such a vehicle) but if you are methodical and follow the instructions they go together very well.


Andy, hi - yes I realised what you meant...I just didn't articulate my reply very clearly...situation has now remedied following two large espressos ;)

I'm a sucker for vans too, which is why I've got a semi-Wisbech & Upwell themed layout. Hasn't modern N gauge stock got good?  I've still got several 2mm van kits to finish off so need to avoid temptations like these!

I'm a sucker for vans too, which is why I've got a semi-Wisbech & Upwell themed layout. Hasn't modern N gauge stock got good?  I've still got several 2mm van kits to finish off so need to avoid temptations like these!


Hi Mark - Agreed - I am still finding my way in to 2FS so essentially I am firstly rewheeling rtr stock, and secondly replacing chassis where I can...would be nice to replace all the coaching stock with 2FS bogies one time too...thereafter, am hoping to tackle 2FS kits - the 08 kit would be a good milestone!

Lovely stuff as usual Pete....

The "spidery elegance" of the etched chassis certainly knocks the RtR ones into the proverbial cocked hat!

 

This 2mm stuff may become contagious :o

Pete,

Very nice.  I agree that putting together wagon chassis does take a bit of time - I've almost finished 3 more for some badly needed open wagons, just got to solder on the door bangers (and mine only have brakes on one side and no vacuum stuff to contend with).  I generally don't measure the amount of time it takes me to do anything (I think it would be too depressing :-) ), I know these 3 have taken a bit of time over 3 evenings.

 

Ian

I consider that to be pretty quick work they look very good.

 

Don

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Steam_Julie
Apr 11 2015 17:14
Prior to the mid 60's vans were far more numerous than passenger coaches!

Looks like a pretty good Easter! I agree with Mickey, the chassis really make a difference. As for the time it takes, maybe old-fasioned to say it, but it seems to me that the more time we put into a model the better the results are. So no need to do it quicker :-)

Lovely stuff as usual Pete....
The "spidery elegance" of the etched chassis certainly knocks the RtR ones into the proverbial cocked hat!
 
This 2mm stuff may become contagious


Thanks Mickey - Nicely put!...

Pete,
Very nice.  I agree that putting together wagon chassis does take a bit of time - I've almost finished 3 more for some badly needed open wagons, just got to solder on the door bangers (and mine only have brakes on one side and no vacuum stuff to contend with).  I generally don't measure the amount of time it takes me to do anything (I think it would be too depressing :-) ), I know these 3 have taken a bit of time over 3 evenings.
 

Thanks also Ian - this is all encouraging news with regard to time taken to assemble the kits - I suspect I am measuring time due to the number of days left until the exhibition as in reality its probably only a handful of days if I add up all the separate hours I will get between now and then - am enjoying following your blog too...

I consider that to be pretty quick work they look very good.

Thanks Don

Prior to the mid 60's vans were far more numerous than passenger coaches!

Thanks Julie - especially in this shot...
https://www.flickr.c...009/5561203139/

Looks like a pretty good Easter! I agree with Mickey, the chassis really make a difference. As for the time it takes, maybe old-fasioned to say it, but it seems to me that the more time we put into a model the better the results are. So no need to do it quicker :-)

Thanks Mikkel - No chocolate eggs were consumed throughout the process :D I completely agree with what you are saying too...

Great stuff Pete! :D

 

Rather you than me with all that fine work!  Brilliant result though-a real improvement.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

Very nice indeed!  Have you found you need to add a little more weight to the vans or are they heavy enough as they are?

 

Graham

Great stuff Pete! :DRather you than me with all that fine work! Brilliant result though-a real improvement.

Thanks Mark - am now trialling vari-focal contact lenses as my eyes have taken the next level of deterioration :o

Very nice indeed! Have you found you need to add a little more weight to the vans or are they heavy enough as they are?


Thanks Graham - for the moment I have kept them as is - I used to add weight to wagons a long time ago but not sure if that is the done thing these days. Once I have added the DG's I will see how they perform when being pushed...

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