Penlan Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 (edited) Seen at yesterday's Welsh Railways Research Circle AGM, was a new line of etched Cambrian Rlys., Coaches and a Horsebox.The flyer doesn't give any Dia Nos., (If there were any).Hopefully all you need to know is to be seen here. I have no connection with Camkits, and I couldn't justify, not even the Horsebox, as a purchase yesterday.I know this should probably go under Products etc., but I thought the specific market (Cambrian Railways) might be better seen here. Edited June 7, 2015 by Penlan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 My Recent Cambrian Peter K etches came from the guy who does these. The Hounds van looks great in the pics he sent me. I've asked about stocking them in my own online shop but have not had an answer yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted June 7, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 7, 2015 Penlan, Thank you. These look very interesting. I assume that he does not have a web site? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penlan Posted June 7, 2015 Author Share Posted June 7, 2015 ChrisN - Assumption correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newport_rod Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I was looking at these kits at the WRRC AGM on Saturday and they do look very well produced. I'm down for a Horse Box from the next batch! Cheers Rod 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Miles Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 My Recent Cambrian Peter K etches came from the guy who does these. The Hounds van looks great in the pics he sent me. I've asked about stocking them in my own online shop but have not had an answer yet. I believe that Richard Evans, aka CamKits is going to market these himself. I doubt there will be a website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penlan Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 I think the Cambrian Rlys., Company only had two Hounds Vans, one of which I believe was destroyed fairly early on.Easier to have a number of Horseboxes...In fact thinking about it, you will need a few Horseboxes and a Hounds Van, if one of local Hunts registered in Wales was to visit another patch somewhere..... E.g. Dwyryd Hunt, 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Miles Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I should have added that Richard Evans also plans to release some loco kits. I have seen the drawings for a Cambrian 2-4-0 so he is well on with this and I think he also plans to do one of the 4-4-0s - all in 4mm of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted June 14, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 14, 2015 I should have added that Richard Evans also plans to release some loco kits. I have seen the drawings for a Cambrian 2-4-0 so he is well on with this and I think he also plans to do one of the 4-4-0s - all in 4mm of course. Any idea which 2-4-0? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Miles Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Any idea which 2-4-0? Sorry no. My expertise in things Cambrian is sadly lacking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 I think the Cambrian Rlys., Company only had two Hounds Vans, one of which I believe was destroyed fairly early on. Easier to have a number of Horseboxes... In fact thinking about it, you will need a few Horseboxes and a Hounds Van, if one of local Hunts registered in Wales was to visit another patch somewhere..... E.g. Dwyryd Hunt, I have a set of Cambrian Railways' drawings including the Hounds Van, and this gives Nos 190 and 326 for them. The other drawings look as if they have received various annotations up to 1911, at least, and there is nothing to suggest that one had been destroyed, although there may have been one of an earlier, different design, which might account for the large gap between the two numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penlan Posted June 15, 2015 Author Share Posted June 15, 2015 Nick, I heard that one was destroyed during a visit by me to Cardiff a week ago, if John Miles reads this, he might be able to contact the iconic person for clarifcation... (Icon is a pet name for somebody). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Miles Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Sandy: I'll phone the Icon and seen what he knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Miles Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I have now spoken to The Icon, a lengthy task, he doesn't do short phone calls. He says that the first hounds van was destroyed in an accident, which he thinks was at Newtown and he thinks the accident was only a few months after the van was built. Hence the second van. There is a chance, if he remembers, that he will look it up in his notes so there may be more information later. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Miles Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I can now add more. The 2-4-0 will be a tender loco - I understand they only had one type of these. Also for more information use camkits4u@gmail.com. His list includes various carriages, horse box and hounds' van. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Miles Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 It looks like Chris Basten, Dragon Models, will be marketing these kits. I am told work on an Albion 2-4-0 is progressing well. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagonman Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 It looks like Chris Basten, Dragon Models, will be marketing these kits. I am told work on an Albion 2-4-0 is progressing well. A 7mm scale version would be interesting... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Miles Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 A 7mm scale version would be interesting.. I seem to remember Chris Basten is working on a 7mm version. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steves17 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) It looks like Chris Basten, Dragon Models, will be marketing these kits. I am told work on an Albion 2-4-0 is progressing well. Has there been any progress on this or Camkits one? Basically i'm trying to workout the gap space between the smokebox saddle and the bufferbeam on the the CR's Albion/FR's E1 Classes but know of no high up photos or birds eye drawings showing it. Does anyone know of similar examples by Sharp, Stewart & Co (or any manufacturer really) where this featured? Regards Steve Edited January 8, 2018 by steves17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branwell Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Has there been any progress on this or Camkits one? Basically i'm trying to workout the gap space between smokebox saddle and the bufferbeam on the the CR's Albion/FR's E1 Classes but know of no high up photos or birds eye drawings showing it. Does anyone know of similar examples by Sharp, Stewart & Co (or any manufacturer really) where this featured? Regards Steve There are some drawings on the Cumbrian Railways Association website that might help - one on there for the rebuilt E1s. http://www.cumbrianrailways.org.uk/drawanddoc.html 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steves17 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) There are some drawings on the Cumbrian Railways Association website that might help - one on there for the rebuilt E1s. http://www.cumbrianrailways.org.uk/drawanddoc.html Ah I've already gone through them and the dubious GWR drawing in 'A pictorial record of Great Western Absorbed Engines' but it doesn't reveal a lot. I think the 'Swindon O' tank rebuilds of the Albion/Small Passenger Class had some kind of lid added but as built the Sharp Stewart 2-4-0s had an exposed gap, for access to the inside cylinders i'm guessing. Basically i've got a Furness model with a solid running running plate and am pondering what to do modification wise. I assume bar the cylinders sticking out slightly said gap is basically a clean rectangular cut out that a careless crew man could drop a foot through but I have no reference to work off and don't want to make a pigs ear of it. Also where would the added vacuum pipe be likely to go? Should I just pretend it continues to sink down and then run along between the frames? Sorry to sound like a noob but my technical knowledge is quite patchy in places. Edited January 9, 2018 by steves17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penlan Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 There are some drawings on the Cumbrian Railways Association website that might help - one on there for the rebuilt E1s. http://www.cumbrianrailways.org.uk/drawanddoc.html Many thanks for posting the link, some interesting items on there for those of us into wagons etc., 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 We are going to be launching a 3D Printed/RTR 2-4-2T very shortly. We are in the final stages of design. Also under development is the 2-4-0, 0-6-0 and the Cambrian 2-4-0T. All in 7mm Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium NCB Posted January 10, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2018 Has there been any progress on this or Camkits one? Basically i'm trying to workout the gap space between the smokebox saddle and the bufferbeam on the the CR's Albion/FR's E1 Classes but know of no high up photos or birds eye drawings showing it. Does anyone know of similar examples by Sharp, Stewart & Co (or any manufacturer really) where this featured? Regards Steve The cutout is a clear rectangle as you thought. As far as I can tell, the front of the rectangle is formed by the wooden buffer beam. The vac pipe runs behind the valence on the right hand side (looking forwards) of the engine. So, looking at the locomotive from the front, the vac pipe is to the left of the coupling. When it drops below the buffer beam it turns horizontally to the left. Then when near the end it turns horizontally under the buffer, then up behind the buffer beam, finally to turn horizontally to the rear to run behind the valance. That's say around 1910 after rebuilding. How it was in earlier condition I don't know. Nigel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steves17 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) Thanks for the feedback Nigel. The gap area is something myself and Gavin initially missed when looking into the 'off the peg' design due to all the photos we've seen being close to ground level, though I note engines Lady Elizabeth, the Swindon Os and possibly even some of the Albion Class gained covers at some point while the Manchester & Milford Railway's 2-4-2T replacement, Plynlimmon seems to have been built with a nice sloping one. Anyway long story short i've cut away a rectangle into the shell for proper Furness accuracy. Just need to worry about scratching cylinders below and what to do about the exposed rear of the drawgear now, a split pin and spring would look a bit crap Edited January 11, 2018 by steves17 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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