P.C.M Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Hi Cav, Sorry to hear the back isn't getting any better, having suffered from a back back myself over the years I can understand what you are going through. On the plus side your trackwork is looking great. All the best Peter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Hello Cav, Excellent trackwork there, l enjoy making some in 00-SF but it must be a nightmare in N ?... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 37 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Sorry to here your backs no better Cav. Sounds extremely painful. My wife had similar a couple of months back and in the end she went and saw a chiropractor who was recommended. Now I'm always sceptical about alternative treatments but, it seemed to work a treat. She had about six sessions I believe. Anyway the track looks brilliant mate, well done. Even the more unbelievable considering your predicament. Haven't done much on mine lately but had a good go yesterday so I'll try and get some pictures up tomorrow. Just been to warm in the loft again. Hope you feel better soon. Cheers Marcus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 N's just like OO only further away! As for the back, its looking like I need to have an operation. Just waiting for an appointment to come through for the back specialist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp1 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 N's just like OO only further away! As for the back, its looking like I need to have an operation. Just waiting for an appointment to come through for the back specialist. 'Small = far away' !I know what you mean about the back- similar problem (and I work in healthcare so know what the ramifications are. I want to ask what you decided on for the turnout dimensions - on your other thread the dimensions seemed to finalise on 8.8mm gauge with 0.85mm flange ways, but you tried different options (I want to have a go, but 2mmFS is a step too far as I am a steam fan.....)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigP Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) -- Edited January 30, 2021 by bigP Deleted 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp1 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 You are, of course, correct - too much time in the pub this afternoon!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) 'Small = far away' ! I know what you mean about the back- similar problem (and I work in healthcare so know what the ramifications are. I want to ask what you decided on for the turnout dimensions - on your other thread the dimensions seemed to finalise on 8.8mm gauge with 0.85mm flange ways, but you tried different options (I want to have a go, but 2mmFS is a step too far as I am a steam fan.....)? I used the standard below. This is what I have adopted as the standard I will use for all my N gauge layouts. Plain track is 2mm scale 9.42mm gauge which gradually narrows at the pointwork. That standard runs great, has nice fine flangeways and uses stock straight out of the box. Father Ted, what a show that was!! Glad you spotted my reference. Edited August 25, 2015 by RBE 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp1 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Thanks Cav That diagram is very useful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Very nice track Cav, looking forward to seeing that 60 passing over it! Hope your back gets better soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted August 25, 2015 Author Share Posted August 25, 2015 Thanks Alex, yeah the 60 is awesome. Can't wait to get it rolling. The backs been a proper pain now since January so none more than me will be glad to see the pain gone. I've tried everything and now it seems that surgery is the only way. I'm rather nervous to have it done though as its a very delicate and dangerous area to operate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 37 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 If its any consolation Cav, one of my drivers when I was still at Chiltern had to have it done. Presume its where they shave a bit off one or more of the discs to stop them resting on the nerve. He, like you, was in absolute agony. After the operation he was as right as rain and has never suffered again since. As you say it is a bit risky but it seems to be a fairly common procedure now. Hope everything goes well and you get it done fairly quickly. All the best mate. Marcus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Like Marcus, I too know of people that have had operations on their back and it seemed to have cured the problem so fingers crossed it will help you. I can understand your excitement, I ran one of mine last night, with sound, and it was great fun! Like the real thing, the models are superb! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 Thanks guys. Yes Alex the 60's do sound well. I often toy with the idea for my stock but I'm never quite sure whether its quite good enough in N gauge. I do plan to add other sounds so not adding loco sound too will be a shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) Well today I made a trip to Burton to do a bit of research. Among the many many photos I took were these few. It was interesting to see that the refuges to the south end of the bridge under the station actually passed the whole way through the wall. This will make a great effect on the model showing the trains passing underneath! I also got some shots over the back and of the track for weathering purposes. The modern apartments weren't of course there back in the early 90s! Edited August 29, 2015 by RBE 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Hi Cav, Have you had any further thoughts on wether you will use brick papers or plastic embossed sheet for the arches and brickwork? Best regards, Jeremy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) Not sure to be honest. I found that print your own custom papers website which allows you to customise and print whatever brick you like. http://paperbrick.co.uk/index.php?action=selectbrick The look of brick is excellent. However it is paper of course (I am still undecided whether texture on brick is actually necessary in N, stone etc is a different story of course). If I were to do textured brick though I'm not sure what to use in N. The ones I have seen other than redux have been very disappointing and arguably look worse than papers. Edited August 29, 2015 by RBE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60091 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Hello Cav I haven't been visiting the site so much recently and was wondering what had happened to Millers Dale. Your work on that layout was very inspirational, and as I'm now comitted to N gauge I was hoping to continue following it's progress. However I've now caught up with events and although it's unfortunate you've had to put Millers Dale on hold it's good to see you starting work on Burton. I'm faced with the same paper/embossed plasticard dilema at the moment. I agree that for brick the papers are better but despite prefering to use embossed plastic for the stonework, I'm not sure how well the two different textures work side by side. Hope all goes well with your back. I can only add to what others have said. I've got a friend who's had the same operation just over a year ago and he's never had another problem, after being in agony for several weeks. ... all the best... Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Have a look at this thread. This chap has done some really good stuff with brick papers. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/99343-greenwood-cutting/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 That brickpaper looks good. I personally don't have issue with papers if done right. I used it on Outon Road and it was fine there. I think that it is even more acceptable in N. The hard part is dealing with where the paper joins. A lap is obvious and getting a corner to meet would be hell. I suspect the only way would be to make it as good as you can and hide it with a drainpipe or similar. I am lightly scratching my head with my finger on how to best do the refuges through the wall at the side of the station though in papers. I think an overlap with the top paper going in so viewers cant see an edge. How I wrap in the curved top and bottom soldier courses will be more of a challenge as you cant fold a curve! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 Hello Cav I haven't been visiting the site so much recently and was wondering what had happened to Millers Dale. Your work on that layout was very inspirational, and as I'm now comitted to N gauge I was hoping to continue following it's progress. However I've now caught up with events and although it's unfortunate you've had to put Millers Dale on hold it's good to see you starting work on Burton. I'm faced with the same paper/embossed plasticard dilema at the moment. I agree that for brick the papers are better but despite prefering to use embossed plastic for the stonework, I'm not sure how well the two different textures work side by side. Hope all goes well with your back. I can only add to what others have said. I've got a friend who's had the same operation just over a year ago and he's never had another problem, after being in agony for several weeks. ... all the best... Alan Thanks Alan, don't worry Millers Dale will return at some point. As for the back it's still seriously painful, I've been suffering now since January and it's getting a little tiresome to say the least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 Just a quick question, probably to Marcus but a question about the Kingsbury tanks circa 1990. Were the tanks grey and were they branded. If so what branding would the teas have been? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) Just a bump as I think my question got missed due to other topics pushing it down. Anyway today I started on the units for moor street. Starting the basic frame in cardboard. I have stuck the CAD elevations I drew up to the card to allow me to cut the windows and doors etc. The high level windows dont need cutting out as I will cut the appertures in the grooved plasticard and the windows will be black behind. It will be similar for the lower windows but of course to get the relief I will add another layer of black card behind. Anyway a bit to do yet. The real ones to the right of this pic. https://www.flickr.com/photos/lickeybanker/12223034495 Edited September 12, 2015 by RBE 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Rail Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) All good Cavan far too technical for me at times as there are points involved - was Millerdale too big as BonT is coming on well - more "manageable" maybe? was Millerdale the proverbial modelling monster? Ian Edited September 12, 2015 by Crisis Rail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 Thanks Ian. Millers Dale wasnt so much a proverbial monster but just impractical to build at present with the space I have at home. BoT is more manageable yes. I have also made the boards stackable so fit together to form a small (3ft x 1.5ft x 1ft) box which is easily stored and transported. I am much more confident on getting this one finished in the near future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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