Guest 47107 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Did anybody else notice at Telford yesterday that Heljan have very quietly announced an 'O' gauge 61xx large Prairie ? I asked Brian Daniels if any new announcements had been made and he showed me a leaflet on the stand with a little picture of the loco tucked in one corner. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted September 6, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 6, 2015 Was there any info at Telford about the OO Gauge GWR 47xx? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 That's very interesting!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic17 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 YUP ! Arrival late 2016 according to Heljan's leaflet at the show. 'GWR and BR versions in Black and Green with early and late BR crests which will be pre-numbered.' Heljan 2015-2016 v2.jpg Heljan p2 2015-2016.jpg Nice to finally see the CAD images of the Class 25 - I'm no Class 25 expert but it looks pretty good. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted September 6, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 6, 2015 Nice to finally see the CAD images of the Class 25 - I'm no Class 25 expert but it looks pretty good. But why is a commonplace 25 Bo-Bo (which should sell loads) priced more expensive than a one-off prototype Co-Co? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) Heljan have confirmed that there first RTR steam outline model will be the GWR large Prarie. More details will follow. Edited September 7, 2015 by steve fay 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railwayrod Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I welcome the news that Heljan are to introduce a steam loco but oh no not another GWR Prairie! There are many locos that could have been chosen but honestly GWR fans are so well catered for both with kits and ready to run locos. It makes one think that the GWR was the only company worth looking at. I know that I will get a lot of flack from this post but.... Rod 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboy Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 But why is a commonplace 25 Bo-Bo (which should sell loads) priced more expensive than a one-off prototype Co-Co? Perhaps it's because they have already produced an 00 version of the Falcon so a lot of the development work has already been done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter220950 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Prices and anticipated dates were posted here http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/102815-Heljan-o-gauge-61xx-large-prairie/&do=findComment&comment=2011318 Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I realise there's a duplicate topic but I thought more 7mm modellers are more likely to see the news here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter220950 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) Appreciate that, I just thought they might be interested in when and how much as the information was available, but you've added it to your initial post now.. Edited September 7, 2015 by peter220950 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 ANOTHER GWR loco...oh goody! WHY do manufacturers duplicate stuff? Only recently we have seen JLTRT announce ANOTHER Black 5........that makes about ten models available...and where, oh where is the LNER V2?????? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Can I resist. Got two Lionheart Prairies already. Will have to think a bit about this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Are but this is a large Prarie Andy !! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Yes I know and it will go with the new Lionheart suburban's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwr Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Interestingly no mention of the Warship Paul R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Lots of them to see at Telford. Looking very nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Sorry here's the other side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Five of them on there looking very nice. Almost enough warships for a fleet review. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Please Sir, can we have it in 4mm too? Luke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I welcome the news that Heljan are to introduce a steam loco but oh no not another GWR Prairie! There are many locos that could have been chosen but honestly GWR fans are so well catered for both with kits and ready to run locos. It makes one think that the GWR was the only company worth looking at. I know that I will get a lot of flack from this post but.... Rod Hi Rod, Although, primarily a WR/GWR modeller, I tend to agree with you. A RTR large Prarrie would be a 'nice to have' on a budget, my budget, yet I would have thought, as I have said before that a M7 at Dapol/Ixion prices would be a winner, especially as Dapol has done the Terrier - also the M7 doesnt have any complex valve gear to contend with. I shall be interested to see what the price of the HJ Prarrie will be - as I assume that it will be mainly injection moulded plastic so will sit in a different market segment to the Lionheart small Prarrie? ANOTHER GWR loco...oh goody! WHY do manufacturers duplicate stuff? Only recently we have seen JLTRT announce ANOTHER Black 5........that makes about ten models available...and where, oh where is the LNER V2?????? Jeff, duplication concerns me and apparently some of the manufacturers too - especially as the market place for 7mm is finite, as is the money and intent to purchase within. Perhaps the market has some room for segmentisation, ie the same/similar loco (built in different materials to different standards) at eg. £250. £600, £2500 - yet I doubt that. Some of the editors of the mainstream mags say that duplication is inevitable and perhaps, due to anti-competition laws and confidentiality, it will be, yet it seems to have reached epic proportions - how many 9Fs in 7mm (kit and RTR)? - and I fear that it will end in tears for some. As the market is finite I wouldnt want to see any manufacturers of 7mm products go to the wall, as that wont be good for any of us - lets hope that it dosent come to that. ATVB CME Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) If the Prarie does well then it could lead on to other steam models, it might not be what you want now but hopefully something will follow. I think it shows the GW is still a very popular modelling subject. Two manufacturers now producing RTR steam using 4mm injected moulded plastic techniques who would have thought!! Could be 3 if the J94 makes an appearance from D Jones Edited September 7, 2015 by steve fay 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 £650 for a large prairie? Me, me, me, yes, yes, YES, meeeee! I shall be talking to Tower quite soon. It compares reasonably with kit prices - Warren Shepherd kit, £300, ABC motor/ gearbox, £80?, Slaters wheels, £90, - £470 plus paint solder, flux, bits of wire, pickups, & other fiddly bits, plus DCC sound decoder which I guess is an add on to the Heljan price too. Few months to build...., but that's all part of the fun! Sounds great. Simon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianwales Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Hi Is there any(much) visible difference between a 61xx and the 41xx and 51xx variants please? Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I've been going through my Russel books and many others. Cylinder size was the same as was the wheels 5'8" the 61 batch was built with 25lb more boiler pressure. Some of the earlier engines in the 51 series are different with square front ends. The 31 / 3150 series had 5'3" wheels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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