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The topic of schooling, which to me is slightly different from education, is massively divisive, so might it be safer for the peace of CA if we stuck to the iniquities of Edwardian schooling?

 

On that front, I can thoroughly recommend the school at Beamish Museum.

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The topic of schooling, which to me is slightly different from education, is massively divisive, so might it be safer for the peace of CA if we stuck to the iniquities of Edwardian schooling?

I agree, but my thought about the grammar schools was that they were ok, but the secondary moderns weren’t so good, and rather than fix the 80% which wasn’t working, we threw out the 20% which was. Typically English!

 

The following is a paraphrase of a comment made to me many years ago by a well-known Modeller who was once a teacher, and active in the profession during the period of change from grammar schools to comprehensives. The only group of people who really pushed for the abolition of grammar schools was not the parents, not the politicians (a large number of whom had come through the grammar school system), nor the kids who went to grammar schools. It was the teaching unions, 80% of whose members felt that secondary modern schools were not valued and that they were therefore viewed as second class teachers.

 

I think it just reflects that we don’t value practical intelligence as much as we do book intelligence. I have too many phenomenally clever friends who fared badly at school because they frankly never got the point of algebra, etc. I also don’t think that formal academically based education is the answer to everything. Getting a degree at 21 in most subjects simply meant one had basic qualifications for an academic career (if you got a first), an aptitude for more specialised training (if you got an upper second) or an office job (everyone else). Compare that with a 21 year old who had just finished an apprenticeship: basic training in technical skills, which would involve thinking and doing with an emphasis on the latter. Other than one route led to a minority going into research, they basically only differed in whether people ended up on the factory floor or the office upstairs.

 

All are equally important.

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Here’s the difference between education, training and schooling...

 

If your 14 year old daughter comes home from school and says she is doing sex education, you are happy.

If she came home saying was doing sex training, you would be extremely worried.

If she said she was being schooled in the arts of sex, you’d call the police...

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I think a parish meeting in Castle Acre would be a very good idea, should there be a pre-requisite that we have to enter the Dodo and say loudly something like ' The Wolferingham train was packed with pyramids this morning' to show that we are a parishioner?

 

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Does the “iniquities of Edwardian schooling” refer to what they were doing back then or what we’re trying to do now? Fascinating meeting at the border today, with clandestine handover of bulky packages, it would have been fun to see it happening. Well done, Kevin.

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Does the “iniquities of Edwardian schooling” refer to what they were doing back then or what we’re trying to do now? Fascinating meeting at the border today, with clandestine handover of bulky packages, it would have been fun to see it happening. Well done, Kevin.

I feel sure due to the subversive nature of this thread ( little UK, Camp Coffee etc)  GCHQ  had agents monitor and video the dubious exchange  :O

 

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On that front, I can thoroughly recommend the school at Beamish Museum.

My youngest daughter was expelled from there!  you see, she's left handed, so when she started to write with the chalk in her left hand she was told off by the teacher.  By trying to explain herself she was deemed to be talking back to the teacher (she can hold her own in any argument, as can her 7½yr old daughter) so was shown the door!.

 

She now has a MSci degree and is a researcher at the SRUC.

 

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**Grumbles**
 

Still annoyed I missed it on ebay. Not letting any of you lot sneak in on the things I'm currently watching...

 

 

**Continues to Grumble....**

 

Glad to hear that Kevin offloaded disposed handed the layout over to you though!

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 Fascinating meeting at the border today, with clandestine handover of bulky packages, it would have been fun to see it happening. Well done, Kevin.

 

With a secret recognition code:

 

Nearholmer:  The daffodils are blooming early on the banks of the Volga this year

 

Edwardian: I'm sorry, I don't smoke that brand

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so that a be caning and dunces hats ....

I must have had Edwardian education, I remember that.

 The first boy attending school with long hair (1969?) was stood in a corner facing the wall with a pink ribbon put in his hair....

 

 Now the famous School in Norfolk is this one, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burston_Strike_School and only just missed the Edwardian era, and the attitudes were pure Victorian /Edwardian... Just 35 Miles from Castle Acre..

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With a secret recognition code:

 

Nearholmer:  The daffodils are blooming early on the banks of the Volga this year

 

Edwardian: I'm sorry, I don't smoke that brand

You missed out the funny handshake, the crysantheum in your lapel and the folded copy of a 1912 Daily Herald.......

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But, Mr (N.E.) Arholmer of Concrete Cowland, does our gracious host resemble anything close to the appearance implied behind his masquerade (I believe 'Profile Pic' is the commoner's terminology for such an image?) and nom de plume? I have reason to believe that he would, in fact be dressed rather differently to the high standards implied by said masquerade and nom de plume.

 

Good Day,

 

E. Missenden, OBE

 

All further correspondence should be sent, with a £1 note representing each word, to:

Sir Eustace Missenden,

Loco No.34090

Brighton Railway Workshops,

Brighton

 

Correspondence recieved after February 1949 should be forwarded to Stewart's Lane depot, from June 1957 to Nine Elms depot, from September 1964 to Eastleigh depot, and from July 1967 to Cashmore's of Newport. Any correspondence recieved after March 1968 will be returned in a tin can immediately, thus signifying the demise of this particular Bulleid Masterpiece.

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Dear Sir Eustace,

 

FIrst, may I beg your pardon in case I have not addressed you correctly? It is many years since I last corresponded with a locomotive, and have never exchanged letters with one blessed with such an enormously extended title as yours, so I may have overlooked the proper formalities.

 

As regards our host: He may very well pass for his avatar, in the dusk, with a light behind him.

 

I will leave it to him to let us know how much, if any, of the rest of the song applies.

 

Yours,

 

Nearholmer

 

PS: I enclose some sheets of paper, which you may wish to have printed-up to resemble bank notes.

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Oh deary me...

 

It appears some false identity is being potrayed on this magical virtual, yet somehow very real, meeting place in the mists of the mysterious 'web'. I'm afraid Messrs N. Earholmer and E. Dwardian will be facing some very serious 'flack' if they turn out not to be a refined Edwardian gentleman and a kindly employee on the former LB&SCR at Paltry Circus.

 

I am most upset!

 

Good Day,

 

O.V.S. Bulleid

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You both need to go to the back of the class,

 

Flack is a Gentlemans (Womans)  surname, derivation from Flagg stones..of Ancient origin

 

Properly used in this situation it is  FLAK derived from FLiegerAbwehrKanone dating from 1935 ( a little later in the UK)

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You both need to go to the back of the class,

 

Flack is a Gentlemans (Womans)  surname, derivation from Flagg stones..of Ancient origin

 

Properly used in this situation it is  FLAK derived from FLiegerAbwehrKanone dating from 1935 ( a little later in the UK)

 

Take yourself there too!

 

What is a 'Gentlemans'?

 

Oh, and I assume "impecunious party" would be the other part of the song applicable to Yours Truly.

 

The mental image of Counsel as a dancing semi-despondent fury is one to which only someone who has been a very junior barrister can truly relate!

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