RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted January 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2018 The topic of schooling, which to me is slightly different from education, is massively divisive, so might it be safer for the peace of CA if we stuck to the iniquities of Edwardian schooling? On that front, I can thoroughly recommend the school at Beamish Museum. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nick_bastable Posted January 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2018 The topic of schooling, which to me is slightly different from education, is massively divisive, so might it be safer for the peace of CA if we stuck to the iniquities of Edwardian schooling? so that a be caning and dunces hats .... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 22, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2018 The topic of schooling, which to me is slightly different from education, is massively divisive, so might it be safer for the peace of CA if we stuck to the iniquities of Edwardian schooling?I agree, but my thought about the grammar schools was that they were ok, but the secondary moderns weren’t so good, and rather than fix the 80% which wasn’t working, we threw out the 20% which was. Typically English! The following is a paraphrase of a comment made to me many years ago by a well-known Modeller who was once a teacher, and active in the profession during the period of change from grammar schools to comprehensives. The only group of people who really pushed for the abolition of grammar schools was not the parents, not the politicians (a large number of whom had come through the grammar school system), nor the kids who went to grammar schools. It was the teaching unions, 80% of whose members felt that secondary modern schools were not valued and that they were therefore viewed as second class teachers. I think it just reflects that we don’t value practical intelligence as much as we do book intelligence. I have too many phenomenally clever friends who fared badly at school because they frankly never got the point of algebra, etc. I also don’t think that formal academically based education is the answer to everything. Getting a degree at 21 in most subjects simply meant one had basic qualifications for an academic career (if you got a first), an aptitude for more specialised training (if you got an upper second) or an office job (everyone else). Compare that with a 21 year old who had just finished an apprenticeship: basic training in technical skills, which would involve thinking and doing with an emphasis on the latter. Other than one route led to a minority going into research, they basically only differed in whether people ended up on the factory floor or the office upstairs. All are equally important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 22, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) Here’s the difference between education, training and schooling... If your 14 year old daughter comes home from school and says she is doing sex education, you are happy. If she came home saying was doing sex training, you would be extremely worried. If she said she was being schooled in the arts of sex, you’d call the police... Edited January 22, 2018 by Regularity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2018 I think a parish meeting in Castle Acre would be a very good idea, should there be a pre-requisite that we have to enter the Dodo and say loudly something like ' The Wolferingham train was packed with pyramids this morning' to show that we are a parishioner? Andy g 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted January 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2018 Does the “iniquities of Edwardian schooling” refer to what they were doing back then or what we’re trying to do now? Fascinating meeting at the border today, with clandestine handover of bulky packages, it would have been fun to see it happening. Well done, Kevin. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nick_bastable Posted January 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2018 Does the “iniquities of Edwardian schooling” refer to what they were doing back then or what we’re trying to do now? Fascinating meeting at the border today, with clandestine handover of bulky packages, it would have been fun to see it happening. Well done, Kevin. I feel sure due to the subversive nature of this thread ( little UK, Camp Coffee etc) GCHQ had agents monitor and video the dubious exchange Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 On that front, I can thoroughly recommend the school at Beamish Museum. My youngest daughter was expelled from there! you see, she's left handed, so when she started to write with the chalk in her left hand she was told off by the teacher. By trying to explain herself she was deemed to be talking back to the teacher (she can hold her own in any argument, as can her 7½yr old daughter) so was shown the door!. She now has a MSci degree and is a researcher at the SRUC. JIM 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 **Grumbles** Still annoyed I missed it on ebay. Not letting any of you lot sneak in on the things I'm currently watching... **Continues to Grumble....** Glad to hear that Kevin offloaded disposed handed the layout over to you though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted January 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2018 I’m sure the new layout will be a runaway success 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted January 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2018 I’m sure the new layout will be a runaway success949422B0-8939-4027-AF61-45B48AACB341.jpeg The trackwork is encroaching onto the scenic part of the layout... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 Fascinating meeting at the border today, with clandestine handover of bulky packages, it would have been fun to see it happening. Well done, Kevin. With a secret recognition code: Nearholmer: The daffodils are blooming early on the banks of the Volga this year Edwardian: I'm sorry, I don't smoke that brand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted January 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) so that a be caning and dunces hats .... I must have had Edwardian education, I remember that. The first boy attending school with long hair (1969?) was stood in a corner facing the wall with a pink ribbon put in his hair.... Now the famous School in Norfolk is this one, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burston_Strike_School and only just missed the Edwardian era, and the attitudes were pure Victorian /Edwardian... Just 35 Miles from Castle Acre.. Edited January 23, 2018 by TheQ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmditch Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 On that front, I can thoroughly recommend the school at Beamish Museum. And the last time I visited there, it was exactly like my Primary School in the 1950's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 With a secret recognition code: Nearholmer: The daffodils are blooming early on the banks of the Volga this year Edwardian: I'm sorry, I don't smoke that brand You missed out the funny handshake, the crysantheum in your lapel and the folded copy of a 1912 Daily Herald....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 But, Mr (N.E.) Arholmer of Concrete Cowland, does our gracious host resemble anything close to the appearance implied behind his masquerade (I believe 'Profile Pic' is the commoner's terminology for such an image?) and nom de plume? I have reason to believe that he would, in fact be dressed rather differently to the high standards implied by said masquerade and nom de plume. Good Day, E. Missenden, OBE All further correspondence should be sent, with a £1 note representing each word, to: Sir Eustace Missenden, Loco No.34090 Brighton Railway Workshops, Brighton Correspondence recieved after February 1949 should be forwarded to Stewart's Lane depot, from June 1957 to Nine Elms depot, from September 1964 to Eastleigh depot, and from July 1967 to Cashmore's of Newport. Any correspondence recieved after March 1968 will be returned in a tin can immediately, thus signifying the demise of this particular Bulleid Masterpiece. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) Dear Sir Eustace, FIrst, may I beg your pardon in case I have not addressed you correctly? It is many years since I last corresponded with a locomotive, and have never exchanged letters with one blessed with such an enormously extended title as yours, so I may have overlooked the proper formalities. As regards our host: He may very well pass for his avatar, in the dusk, with a light behind him. I will leave it to him to let us know how much, if any, of the rest of the song applies. Yours, Nearholmer PS: I enclose some sheets of paper, which you may wish to have printed-up to resemble bank notes. Edited January 23, 2018 by Nearholmer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 As regards our host: He may very well pass for his avatar, in the dusk, with a light behind him. Possibly not in silhouette! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Oh deary me... It appears some false identity is being potrayed on this magical virtual, yet somehow very real, meeting place in the mists of the mysterious 'web'. I'm afraid Messrs N. Earholmer and E. Dwardian will be facing some very serious 'flack' if they turn out not to be a refined Edwardian gentleman and a kindly employee on the former LB&SCR at Paltry Circus. I am most upset! Good Day, O.V.S. Bulleid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 Well, I did once resemble that photograph. (which, after all, does date from 1904) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted January 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2018 Pendant hat on: you can't use "flack" in an Edwardian discourse. BACK OF CLASS, DUNCE'S CAP AND HOLD YOUR HAND OUT TO BE CANED. Jonathan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted January 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) You both need to go to the back of the class, Flack is a Gentlemans (Womans) surname, derivation from Flagg stones..of Ancient origin Properly used in this situation it is FLAK derived from FLiegerAbwehrKanone dating from 1935 ( a little later in the UK) Edited January 23, 2018 by TheQ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Yes Sir, Sorry Sir, Never again Sir. **Is promptly dispatched to Headmaster's office for use of a word not yet created.** Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 You both need to go to the back of the class, Flack is a Gentlemans (Womans) surname, derivation from Flagg stones..of Ancient origin Properly used in this situation it is FLAK derived from FLiegerAbwehrKanone dating from 1935 ( a little later in the UK) Take yourself there too! What is a 'Gentlemans'? Oh, and I assume "impecunious party" would be the other part of the song applicable to Yours Truly. The mental image of Counsel as a dancing semi-despondent fury is one to which only someone who has been a very junior barrister can truly relate! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted January 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2018 I just knew I'd miss something..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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