BR(S) Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) Hi all, thanks for the feedback so far. Some minor corrections will be made to a number of the models including the resizing of the Chiltern logo. I can also confirm that the roof on the GWR example will be the silver grey as per the original artwork too. As soon as these amendments have taken place we'll show further examples here. Cheers, Dave Hi Dave. Any chance you would consider doing the lighter blue on the original NSE one, 55022? As with Kernow's NSE 4-TC, I was just hoping Dapol had applied the wrong shade of blue to the pre-production sample (although it's correct for 55022's later years)! PD_0450 by Mark Sampson, on Flickr Edited April 28, 2017 by BR(S) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted May 8, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 8, 2017 I'm really liking these.... the NSE versions look excellent and I'm going to find it very hard to resist!! I think these will make a superb model. Minor stuff but didn't the GWR150 121 have a silver grey... almost white roof? And maybe it's the lighting but the colours look a little washed out. Other than the heavy looking windscreen wipers these look the business.... A pity there isn't a bogof offer You can't have bogof. It's a single unit... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejab95 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Rather excited for these! I was originally only going for Chiltern, but I may have to add the Railtrack one after seeing it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 1, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2017 Is it just me, or is that shade of blue a bit too light, just like that on the Dapol Class 22? Otherwise it does look nice. It might be the way it was lit for photography (there - I can be a generous soul sometimes). As colour can be so misleading on the 'net I'd prefer to see something in the flesh, or take known provenance advice on it from someone who has seen it in the flesh). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brittannia Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 Latest email from Hattons the Railtrack version due September/October 2017 although not guaranteed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penrhos1920 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Latest email from Hattons the Railtrack version due September/October 2017 although not guaranteed And the Arriva one which still has the wrong windows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verulam Central Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I wonder if there an update on theses models at to if they will be deliver this month ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted October 1, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2017 And the Arriva one which still has the wrong windows And always will. Dapol said they were not tooling for the latter modified bodyshells. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penrhos1920 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 And always will. Dapol said they were not tooling for the latter modified bodyshells. Roy In that case I'll finish off my Hornby conversion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brittannia Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) Hatton/Dapol Railtrack Limited edition. Put back to December with usual proviso of delays Edited October 29, 2017 by brittannia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernMafia Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) It's a shame the Railtrack version has all the small test markings on it, presumably something to do with gauge clearance testing? The real thing had 2 large spotlights on each end mounted below the solebar and a CCTV style camera mounted on the front above the headlight. Looking at pictures it didn't appear to have the markings and no camera/spotlights at any time, but it did have it the other way round (ie no markings but camera and lights present) and indeed had none of it at all, which would be my preferred condition of the model. Don't really fancy removing all those markings, there's hundreds! MJM Photography https://flic.kr/p/gaGPTX Edited November 1, 2017 by SouthernMafia 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickL2008 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Hi Rich - Ive found this picture here that shows it has the markings and spotlight combination? : https://www.flickr.com/photos/60854097@N06/6432484263/in/photolist-aNqat6-Ww8Cgo-d2RgvQ-WHyjhL-fAKxMe-eTyS1Q-h3QVzn-ftz64r-nUtxXv-okp5VS-Grsybp-R83WTw-Te76F4-Ad5uvh-5DN8Uq-9ttRfN-WEDP1w-cGy6Wh-ZNJiBj-qZQL3a-dQa5FT-dQfG3h-Xub6xi-VNcSEk-dRTAUe-5kKvuK-HPgxoH-fEx5cC-HQbnyA-TwF1aW-cGyf79-TyF5TE-SUYKjK-eYTDQJ-oipcyt-26jvzK-26oWRN-cGy8NC-5uMkYM-BUzHEB-cGy99m-bpQ7WS-7bfChm-TY3rg4-e6p3Lb-dQa5Ee-dQa5GZ-9RiRyd-puNoRo-XyLT9E Most likely its just a basic tooling that will as you say need some improvements, im eyeing up this one too, as I saw 960011 numerous times when it was with railtrack, and then become the unbranded "Pandora". the exhausts would need modifying, and the cameras and spotlgihts adding also, and another windrescreen wiper for the centre cab windows also. But it looks miles ahead of Limas old model which will be a nice model once its been worked on NL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 All limited edition 121s now in stock at Hatton's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brittannia Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 All limited edition 121s now in stock at Hatton's. Arrived at 16-30, Thursday, Hattons quick on the mark with their e mails for the 7 limited editions, also 4 general release ones in as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_R Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Will be making a comparison with my ex Hornby version fitted with working lights etc. Also have ex Hornby Arriva version to compare with too with locked out doors modelled. My very elderly Lima model of the Midline version has now been re-motored so a new lease of life 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penrhos1920 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Will be making a comparison with my ex Hornby version fitted with working lights etc. RAILTRACK 2.jpg RAILTRACK 3.jpg Also have ex Hornby Arriva version to compare with too with locked out doors modelled.ARRIVA 1.jpg My very elderly Lima model of the Midline version has now been re-motored so a new lease of life MIDLINE 2.jpg Glad to see that your Arriva model has the correct Windows unlike the Hattons model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyddrail Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I received the 2 NSE Hattons 121s today. Very nice but a few issues.The revised livery is in light blue which I think some were. The Thames route logo has the wrong font "Thames" word. The NSE flashes have the correct light grey blocks, this is corrected from the released livery plans.The original livery is a darker blue!! This is wrong for first application but I understand from post 51 by BR(S) it was later painted the darker blue. I expect more experienced DMU fans might have more pictures of these to comment further.Photo below, was taken as one tank was missing off original version. Cheers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) A couple of pictures of my original NSE one, straight out of the box. I've tested it on DC and running is smooth at all speeds. At top speed it doesn't fly along, but it's plenty for a humble 121. Lights in the passenger area and cab, plus directional head and tail lights. Bit of light bleed through the yellow with the head lights, but won't be difficult to cut that down. Dark blue definitely OK for original NSE livery: https://flic.kr/p/bpCXqC Edit: my pictures make the colours look a bit washed out, but they aren't. Edited December 4, 2017 by BR(S) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted December 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 4, 2017 As to speed, humble or not it should be able to manage a scale 70mph on level track; this was speed that the prototypes were set to run at, in common with the majority of 1st generation dmus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 As to speed, humble or not it should be able to manage a scale 70mph on level track; this was speed that the prototypes were set to run at, in common with the majority of 1st generation dmus. It's a good top speed and has improved further with a bit of running-in. Absolutely no complaints from me about the top speed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted December 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 5, 2017 Actually, for my purposes and I suspect most of us who do not have the space to realistically run trains at speed, smooth, reliable, slow running is much more important; my trains do about 30mph at their fastest. But, having put up with RTR which for many years was capable of over 200mph scale and uncontrollable below 30, I applaud a realistic top speed. In the days when I used to build kits with Romford motors, wheels and gears, I used to consider 40:1 gear ratio suitable for most purposes, and 60:1 for shunting engines. Of course, the higher the ratio, the more care you needed to take in meshing and mounting. Higher gear ratios not only curbed ridiculously high top speeds to something more acceptable, but made control response more smooth, and gave a nice feeling of weight and momentum to the controller. I sort of wish RTR manufacturers would state the final drive gear ratios of their models, but the information would not be much use without knowing the speed in rpm of the motor at a given setting, and modern motors tend to run at higher speeds than traditional open frames like XO4s or Romford Terriers and Bulldogs, in order to develop useful amounts of power while taking less space inside the model; this was why some of our old models had cabs full of motor magnets! Modern RTR running is pretty good as a rule, and I have few complaints. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Scottish-Exile Posted December 5, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 5, 2017 Received my Hatton's exclusive Arriva Trains Wales liveried 121 this morning. Stunning model and can't wait to put it on the track. Excellent packaging, full instruction leaflets and a set of transfers to create your own destination blinds. Not sure the ATW one went to Carluke though!. Equally nice touch is that one of the destinations is Hatton! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mevaman Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 My experience with my 122s were that they ran slowly to start with but the speed returned to normal with running in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Hi, Received my Railtrack Green / Blue one yesterday, what a lovely little model, just contemplating 3D printing the additional lights and cameras to on the ends! One thing that did make me chuckle, as well as others in my office, was the Omnicom Engineering and Omnicom Surveyer 3D Logos on the windows. We have very close ties to Omnicom (in fact I've tested a lot of their software!), and use the modern equivalent of their Surveyer 3D software in our day to day jobs! Now I have the excuse to run it anywhere! Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
letterspider Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Those concerned about the quality control of the Railtrack version from Hattons (none with my model) I have posted pictures of the cab etc on the 121 / 122 thread here http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/65775-Dapol-class-121-and-122-in-oo-gauge/page-36&do=findComment&comment=2948968 this model and a Class 68 have gone some way to dispelling all the traumas of the Class 73's a while back! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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