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Being the lazy git and total chancer that I am, I thought I'd ask here first before I spend hours trawling through books.

 

The question(s) are this:

 

1/ Were any class 31's embellished with a double arrow symbol in GSYP?

 

2/ Were any class 31's still carrying the totem symbol in GFYE?

 

Edit: I've answered the second question using Brush Veteran's pictures/

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I am sure that at least one 31 in green had double arrows.

 

David Ford of this parish would be the man to ask. I am fairly sure that at least one has appeared in his thread.

 

I seem to recall that it was one of the High Dyke/Stainby/Skilington sets of photos.

 

Regards

 

Ian

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Hi Lloyd

 

Yes to your first question.  There were at least half a dozen from memory............I think D5610 was one.

 

I'll have a scout through my photo albums and make a list and report back on here later.

 

G

 

Thanks Grahame. Do you know if any were in the London division? I need to get one on Sumatra Road. ;)

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I found one here - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_11_2014/post-13986-0-67535700-1415389223.jpg

 

D5638 with syp and double arrow symbol.

 

And another one - http://www.rail-online.co.uk/img/s1/v49/p601965435-3.jpg

 

D5677

 

And a third - http://www.rail-online.co.uk/img/s2/v52/p839634887-3.jpg

 

D5815

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Are these any use?

Most of the numbers are probably right - they are taken from Dad's and my notes.

 

Small yellow panels.

 

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York Class 31 D5802 light engine Note maroon Mk2a coach March 67 J812

 

full yellow ends

 

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High Dyke Class 31 5557 leaving with empties for quarries, Class 47 in sidings July 73 C1263

 

 

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Burton Lane Level Crossing Class 31 D5518 down empty iron ore Nov 68 J1496

 

 

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Chesterfield Class 31 5690 down coal November 70 C408

 

 

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Bottesford West Junction Class 31 D5803 up mineral July 69 J1785

 

 

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Little Bytham Class 31 5870 down pass Oct 70 J2419

 

 

David

 

 

 

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Being the lazy git and total chancer that I am, I thought I'd ask here first before I spend hours trawling through books.

 

The question(s) are this:

 

1/ Were any class 31's embellished with a double arrow symbol in GSYP?

 

2/ Were any class 31's still carrying the totem symbol in GFYE?

 

Edit: I've answered the second question using Brush Veteran's pictures/

 

Most of the answers are provided already, but in addition

1) Yes, 5513, 5595, 5610, 5677, 5685, 5802, and 5815

2) At least 105 locos had GFYE with totem

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Lloyd

I've had a quick look through what I have and have got additionally to what has been mentioned already D5643 and D5825.

 

You can quite safely use, D5595 D5610, D5643 and D5677 as they were at Finsbury Park whilst in that livery and of course D5513 would have been over the NLR lines quite regularly, there is a picture of that on the BV archive.

 

Best Wishes

 

Grahame

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Most of the answers are provided already, but in addition

1) Yes, 5513, 5595, 5610, 5677, 5685, 5802, and 5815

2) At least 105 locos had GFYE with totem

5513 is an interesting one. I've seen a photo of it looking ex-works at Doncaster with SYP & arrows at the end of 67, and then in 1970 with FYE. Anyone have any idea when it gained FYE and then was painted blue please.

 

Paul J.

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Gentlemen, as always thank you very much for your replies and info. I have another class 31 livery question regarding the skinhead that reputedly kept it's white glasses whilst gaining a small yellow panel (D5504?). Does anyone have a picture of it in this livery?

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Gentlemen, as always thank you very much for your replies and info. I have another class 31 livery question regarding the skinhead that reputedly kept it's white glasses whilst gaining a small yellow panel (D5504?). Does anyone have a picture of it in this livery?

 

Looks like D5515 might have kept the white window surrounds with SYP for a while.

http://www.rail-online.co.uk/p857901357/h29f11302#h29f11302

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There were two like this Lloyd, D5501 and D5515.

 

D5501 is on Barking Bill's website and there is also a Colour-Rail shot of it whilst D5515 is on the Rail-Online site.

 

D5513 was SYP with arrows in  6-9-67 and LYE by 10-68.

 

Cheers

 

Grahame

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D5513 was re-engined in May 1968, so almost certainly gained full yellow ends then. Here's an August 1968 pic. Finding when it went blue is more difficult, but normal repaint frequencies would indicate around 1972.

 

 

There were two like this Lloyd, D5501 and D5515.

 

D5501 is on Barking Bill's website and there is also a Colour-Rail shot of it whilst D5515 is on the Rail-Online site.

 

D5513 was SYP with arrows in  6-9-67 and LYE by 10-68.

 

Cheers

 

Grahame

 

 

Thank you both for those replies. just got to find out the exact date it went to blue?

 

Paul J.

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