Chevetter Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 All my previous posts on the forum have been about buying stuff for my dad for xmas/birthday presents however I'll let you all into a secret - I used to be into model trains too as a child. I liked Great Western stuff mainly and indeed somewhere in my parents house is a box containing a load of N gauge GWR things including a Graham Farish prairie tank and a whitemetal kit of a 2251, which was my favourite locomotive (don't really know why... it just was, along with the little 48xx Autotanks). I gave it all up though when I discovered radio controlled cars and subsequently real cars. Anyway its my birthday too shortly and my parents having been pestering me about what I want. It occurred that I could let dad buy me a 2251 class loco to put on his layout. I shouldn't imagine it would be incredibly prototypical since his layount in meant to be based in the midlands and has all lms/lnwr/br locos so far but what the heck, it could pull a 'brake van special' rake of toad brakes or something. But enough rambling, is there anything I need to know about these models and slightly O/T is there any other cool GWR stuff (kit or rtr) that I can ask for? Thanks, Chevetter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Try your luck and ask for the NRM edition of City of Truro? That wandered around the network on specials in the final decade of steam, so can be justified most places. The 2251 is a good model, and I bet they would have wandered into midland parts of the LMR on occasion. With inside cylinders they wouldn't have the platform clearance issues that tended to keep Swindon designs in region; but I don't have any detailed knowledge of their excursions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevetter Posted March 5, 2010 Author Share Posted March 5, 2010 Hmm, I think £150 really would be trying my luck a bit! I've just noticed that these aren't listed on the Bachmann website as DCC ready or fitted. Is that the case? If so, how ridiculous, especially since their other 2251 is DCC on board! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagrizz Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Hi Chevetter, I lived by the Cov-Nuneaton line (ex LNWR) in the early sixties and for a while the daily Leamington to Nuneaton parcels trains often had 2251 locos as power - the three locos used were 2210, 2211 and 3217. I also saw a pannier tank once but I don't remember the number. Graham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevetter Posted March 8, 2010 Author Share Posted March 8, 2010 Nice one Graham, will tell the old man that :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevetter Posted March 8, 2010 Author Share Posted March 8, 2010 Oh also, Looking on the Bachmann website there's no 'DCC' logo next to 2253 in the products list. Surely Bachamnn don't release new products these days that aren't at least DCC ready? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Oh but they do. DCC took off as far as the UK mass market was concerned only about 5 years ago. The RTR manufacturers are still in catch up, with earlier models requiring redesign to accomodate sockets. The first few of the better standard models that Bachmann brought out from about 1999, among which are the SR class N 2-6-0, WD 2-8-0, and the 2251 0-6-0, were provided with most of the boiler full of metal ballast to aid traction; and still stand in need of a little retooling to acomodate not just the socket but also a suitable clear volume to take the decoder. Provided that you can solder, adding a decoder is not difficult: the screw together construction typical of Bachmann's loco bodies means that it is usually possible to create the space for a decoder by extracting a ballast weight, and sawing off a piece. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevetter Posted March 8, 2010 Author Share Posted March 8, 2010 Oh ok fair enough - still seems a bit silly though. How come the other 2251 model (BR lined green late crest) has a DCC decoder fitted then? Did Bachmann do as you described or is that model a completely different design? Fortunately I can solder, so it wouldn't be too much of a problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigwelsh Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Oh ok fair enough - still seems a bit silly though. How come the other 2251 model (BR lined green late crest) has a DCC decoder fitted then? Did Bachmann do as you described or is that model a completely different design? What is the catalogue number of a lined green one? Bachmann and ehattons only list the one weathered one. Antics has an older black one still in stock http://www.railway-models.co.uk/750_1_1209184.html but no lined green. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevetter Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 Well I saw it on the Bachmann website the other day, but it now seems to have disappeared Googling has found the part number 32-302, but that doesn't appear to be DCC fitted. Maybe I imagined it Edit.... no I didn't! 32-300DC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 It could be that the DDC fitted one will have a hard wired decoder whilst the DC one will not have a decoder socket and therefore not DCC ready. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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