Dirty stuff

[bgman]

Well, guess I did have the same problem and bought them all..

Me too, love his products and his tutorials are worth looking at too !

[Gene]

Buy 'em all you won't be disappointed !

Buy all?? Everything? Or just the streaking effects. ??? They have sooooo mannnny products!!!!

[milocomarty]

Rust and a couple of grimes will do..

 

Consider this one done. Couple of pigments to the roof, mixture of Ammo, AK, Vallejo and stuff from the artstore. Bit of dust on the underframe with Panpastel en some streaks more with dark brown for green vehicles from Ammo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Funny how the camera changes color with the same studio lights but a different background..

[bgman]

Buy all?? Everything? Or just the streaking effects. ??? They have sooooo mannnny products!!!!

Not sure if you're married, if so take a look in the wardrobe that should make it more palatable when you see all those shoes and frocks !

[Gene]

Not sure if you're married, if so take a look in the wardrobe that should make it more palatable when you see all those shoes and frocks !

Was married. Now I just have girlfriends...hehehe. Its not the cost....its the volume of products and getting them shipped across the pond

[bgman]

Was married. Now I just have girlfriends...hehehe. Its not the cost....its the volume of products and getting them shipped across the pond

Quite understand, been there done that.

My approach to weathering has taken a slight tangent in which I have begun trying out various effects on an ongoing kit build ( reiterate - on going ! ) using Mig products. I think even if you only buy a handful of the streaking products they are worth having a go with. The model has still to suffer some of these !

 

 

The idea being not to mess up my rolling stock or locos until I'm satisfied with various techniques being applied to this less expensive "donor" model.

 

Milocomarty .... I'm fully aware that the picture is not specifically railway related and just wanted to post it to show my efforts in the weathering dept. If you wish me to take it off this interesting thread I'd be more than happy too.

[milocomarty]

No problem mate, like all kinda weathering. Most military stuff is a great example how things could be weathered if you take some time.

 

Gene, the UK is still part of the EU. AK offers free shipping with orders over 70 euro..http://ak-interactive.com/v2/?page_id=22295

[Gene]

Not sure if you're married, if so take a look in the wardrobe that should make it more palatable when you see all those shoes and frocks !

No problem mate, like all kinda weathering. Most military stuff is a great example how things could be weathered if you take some time.

 

Gene, the UK is still part of the EU. AK offers free shipping with orders over 70 euro..http://ak-interactive.com/v2/?page_id=22295

Milo....but Canada isn't. ;0) Edited July 13, 2016 by Gene

[milocomarty]

Next project on the bench, only 4 to do..

 

 

[milocomarty]

Gene https://www.megahobby.com/categories/paint-store/ak-interactive.html , USA but lot closer I guess otherwise you should ask Ralph Renzetti,  he´s Canadian to I think..

Edited July 14, 2016 by milocomarty

[Gene]

Gene https://www.megahobby.com/categories/paint-store/ak-interactive.html , USA but lot closer I guess otherwise you should ask Ralph Renzetti,  he´s Canadian to I think..

Milo...thats great! The company in your link is in Canada not the US....even better! Thanks very much!

 

Gene

[milocomarty]

Slow progress on the coal hoppers. Drying times are the modelers worse nightmare. Added a bit of spotty rust on one of the black, now more greyish cars. The redish one I just had to try some basic fading and other soot and grimes with Panpastel only. Sealed inbetween with AK ultra matte varnish..

 

 

 

 

 

[Mick Bonwick]

 

Slow progress on the coal hoppers. Drying times are the modelers worse nightmare. Added a bit of spotty rust on one of the black, now more greyish cars. The redish one I just had to try some basic fading and other soot and grimes with Panpastel only. Sealed inbetween with AK ultra matte varnish..

 

 

Martin, what method do you use to apply the Panpastels? I have a few but have not yet opened them, being unsure about the application method. Do you use a brush, a sponge or fingers?

[milocomarty]

Brush and sponge Mick, use flat or angled brushes, this so called deerfoot wich is somekinda brush for pastels. And these sponge applicators they sell with the Panpastel..Oops and yes a big soft flat brush for blending..

[milocomarty]

https://dirtystuffbymartinwelberg.wordpress.com/

[milocomarty]

So used to the Nikon D60 for years just with the original 18-55 kit lens that it's a though job goin through the menus of a D5300 and have the choice between a 60mm micro lens and a 18-105..but I start to learn..adjusting WB and so on to my prefered settings.

 

 

 

 

[milocomarty]

Still ty to figure out how and what with this white balance. Gonna take some shots more I think to find out how and what to do about it. When I take the pre mode and measure the white balance with a grey card on the subject the color changes when I step back. The AF-S 60mm f/2.8G ED Micro is a fixed distance lens so I need to step back to get the whole subject. Well it's almost weekend and I'm pretty happy I shoot RAW to. Couple of shots to show the problem, and picture worked on with PS white balance done with "auto"mode. Pictures taken on a pure white piece of drawing paper with 2 softboxes loades with 4 105W daylight bulbs each..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Last shot is an original camera Jpeg.

[milocomarty]

For a couple of days now I have this struggle with setting the white balance good for the new Nikon D5300. For years I do use the pre setting on my D60 and never had trouble like this or at least I can't remember that. So uesed to the camera that I layed down the grey cart, pointed shot and measured the white balance for decent pictures. Now with the upgrade in hands I can't find the right settings or not used to the camera I oversee something in the menu or the settings. Well for now I found a setting with 2 stops overexposed when shooting farder away. But see for yourself and make a comment how I can improve..I added 3 pictures one with the white balance setting and the exposure the meters in the camera says, and 2 with one stop overexposure each.

 

And to stay into the weathering stuff, these are shots of a new project on the bench. Scale 1 , or 1:32. Started to unscrew the undercarriage from the box and removed the wheels. The frame already has its first coat wich is a mixture of 2 brands primer, both Ammo by Mig and AK interactive make a good darker brown color primer wich I prefer to start with. Oh yeah, they are both named tracks primer..

 

 

 

 

 

[milocomarty]

Some thoughts. Well this white balance issue still bothered me so I decided to download the trail version of Lightroom CC and I must say I really like it. Still had an ongoing O scale project and I decided to work a bit on it and take some pictures afterwards.Can't tell too much about all the steps I took because of my publisher but I can show a couple of pictures taken in RAW and edited with Lightroom CC. Added the yellow boxcar as some kinda bonus with one of the featured settings used. Think I can make the copyrights a bit smaller..

 

 

 

 

 

[Shoey]

Very realistic weathering. Great products and great technique. Clearly someone who knows what they are doing in the weathering department! Keep up the great work and the pictures coming.

 

Cheers

[milocomarty]

Thanks Shoey !!

 

Well guess I figured out the white balance thingies. Use an Expodisc 2.0 and must say not cheap but a great tool, and some white, grey and black cards. Did run these pictures through Lightroom and most of the time the white balance is pretty good but I just had to increase the exposure.With that set it's time to concentrate on the models again. Added some streaking grimes to the roof and a couple of pinwashes to enhance the details, bit of wheel splatter too..let the fun begin.

 

 

 

 

 

[milocomarty]

Already weathered a couple of German boxcars in 1:32. Untill now all of these had a different year of build, slightly different design but do look almost the same. Plywood walls, aluminium or PVC roofing. Now on the bench a type Gmhs 53, what else, first year they build and delivered them hmmmmmmm let's say .'53 ? And with the Europ codes on the side it's not that old. Changed it in '61 to RIV codes I believe, correct me when I'm wrong. So let's say this one slipped through and didn't get the new codes. Customer rides between '55 and '70. Faded yeah , red-brown paint fades in 11 years time. Heavily rusted , guess no. Well maintained but never been painted again..maybe a small touch here and there but we'll see how that turns out. For now I painted the frame with 2 primers, AMMO trackrust and rust, nice dark brown, brownish colors like all the soot and dirt that goes on a boxcar frame. Added a couple of acrylic washes with a mixture of dark grey and rust thinned 50% with acrylic thinner just to darken it and enhance the details. Gave the springs a light rust wash, can't remember but I think around 5 layers. Remounted the upper body and started fading it, mixture of mat varnish, white and rust wash thinned  50% and spray painted layer over layer in random patterns. For todays last treatment I started with a grey acrylic wash and added some shadows and darkened the seams and the roof a bit. I'm a lucky guy for this one, can go as far as I want the customer says.. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Same story on my blog https://dirtystuffbymartinwelberg.wordpress.com/2016/08/20/a-german-gmhs-53-boxcar-in-scale-1/

[milocomarty]

It's always a bit of a struggle weathering cars. The hardest part is where to stop. In this case I wonder if I didn't go to dark on steel beams on this car. After fading with a mixture of clear matte varnish, airbrush thinner, white and rust wash I made the decision to darken all the beams and other lines on the car with a dark grey wash. Maybe I should have used a lighter tone, maybe not. Maybe I can enlighten the overall appearance with some filters or try it with some oil paints. Well I finished these base layers with an overall spray of varnish and it's ready for the accents, streaks and other funny things that appears on boxcars used for quit some time. We see how it works out.

 

 

 

 

[Phill Dyson (onslaught832)]

Some really nice weathering there, do you feel there is any advantage with the washes you are using over similar paints thinned?.....I tend to think that you are paying the same price for less paint with pre-thinned paints such as washes?

[milocomarty]

Thanks Phill ! Dunno if you pay to much for the washes. For the enamels I do think they are worth the price and come in a nice range of weathering colors. But yes you can make them yourself like any wash. For the acrylic ones from Vallejo, just like the way they flow, somekinda addition to the paint. I was used to artist paints and still like them alot, artist oils and acrylics have even more value for money, dense paint with loads of pigments but they can also be pretty expencive depending on the color. To be honest I like them all, artist as well as modeling paints..guess I have somekinda fetish about paint since artschool..