RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted August 23, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 23, 2016 It's always a bit of a struggle weathering cars. The hardest part is where to stop. In this case I wonder if I didn't go to dark on steel beams on this car. After fading with a mixture of clear matte varnish, airbrush thinner, white and rust wash I made the decision to darken all the beams and other lines on the car with a dark grey wash. Maybe I should have used a lighter tone, maybe not. Maybe I can enlighten the overall appearance with some filters or try it with some oil paints. Well I finished these base layers with an overall spray of varnish and it's ready for the accents, streaks and other funny things that appears on boxcars used for quit some time. We see how it works out. Martin, It's difficult to say without seeing the photograph you're working from, but I think that the fading is a bit overdone, which is why the darkened beams don't look quite right. Nonetheless, you may be able to put it right with the washes and powders during the next stage. Still looks good, though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I love the rust effects you have achieved with artists Oils, could I ask how you achieve the streaking & do you thin oils & if so what is used to thin oils please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted August 24, 2016 Author Share Posted August 24, 2016 Thanks guys ! The contrast is indeed a bit overdone Mick, but I'm working on it. Phil, I don't thin the oils when I put them on. Most of the times. Just put smal dots and stripes on the cars with a toothpick or a 0/10 brush. When thinned I use odourless thinners, Ammo, AK, or just Winsor and Newton or any artist brand. The are a lot softer and more pure as the DIY store ones..more expencive to, but a ruïnd model isn't worth the use of cheap materials IMO.. Again a bit of work done on the German boxcar in scale 1, drying times are a modelers worse enemy !! Added two filters to tone down and blend the colors a bit, the harsh contrast is still a bit annoyance to me. Used a filter from AK for wood, wich has a brownish orange tone and afterwards I went over with a heavily thinned brown wash from the MIG productions line. Always easy to have a lotta stuff on hand. Let it dry for a day or so I went on and started on the doors with artist oil paints. Winsor and Newton oils blended with Ammo odourless thinner. Used a burned umber to try to get the brownish tone back this cars original have, with a bit of fade that is.. In case I forget to post, join me on my blog https://dirtystuffbymartinwelberg.wordpress.com/2016/08/25/a-german-gmhs-53-boxcar-part-3/ 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted September 5, 2016 Author Share Posted September 5, 2016 Traveled to a show in Hochdorf Switserland this weekend for some demonstrations of weathering techniques. As always I did have the problem what to bring and what to show so I ended up with 4 crates of material and 2 crates of rolling stock. My friend and Team Mitropa mate Erik Wieringa arrived after a 1,5 hour drive at my place where we enjoyed a coffee, packed the car and left at 8.30 AM. After a long drive we arrived at Hochdorf at 6.30 PM where we set up our gear for a 2 day show. The first day I did some fading on boxcars, added some oil paints on the German Gmhs 53 and started on the tank of the Lenz kesselwagen. Gave it a light fade with a light grey wash and some dark faded rust on the top with Ammo tracksprimer so I could get started on chipping the next day. With a lot of questions of the audience you never get as much work done as you wish, but hey that´s what you´re there for. Think I got the chipping done at the end of the day, started with a light grey color and finished over that with a Ammo chipping rust color. With the show closing at 4 PM and packed at 6.30 PM we decided to drive home. Leaving at 6 PM we finally arrived at my place ar 2.15 AM where we unpacked my stuff and Erik went home for another 1.5 hours. Respect mate ! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Excellent work! Thanks for posting the photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted September 10, 2016 Author Share Posted September 10, 2016 Sneak peek for an article in the Dutch magazine Railhobby.. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 Kesselwagen..teaser for the Expo at Leuven Belgium 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoey Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I think there may be a few wagons missing from the network. Honey I shrunk the.... What!?! Fantastic as always! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43078shildoncountydurham Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Bloody brilliant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted September 30, 2016 Author Share Posted September 30, 2016 Thanks !! Fades, chipping, washes and rust..all Ammo by Mig stuff. Not done yet..1:87 scale.. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 Couple of quick shots of the B&O boxcar. Worked my way around with the rust washes and added dust with pigments and Ammo nature effects light dust. Pigments added with a brush, sealed with pigment fixer with an airbrush in several layers. Light dust sprayed on in a light coat with the airbrush and faded and stroked with a brush moistened in odourles thinner..Quit for a couple of days now I think. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 Enjoyed a trainshow in Belgium last weekend, De 8e Grote Modelspoorexpo 2016 at Leuven was a big succes with good layouts. Enjoyed the 2 days working on some cars and showing my weathering techniques presenting the products of Ammo by Mig to these train guys. Specialy the enamel washes are quit unknown to them and most spectators where stunned by the use and how easy they are to work with. For the rest no pictures but I did receive some Belgian diesels from a forum member to weather. Planning some nice photo shoots and some articles around them. Searching for some good prototype pictures right now.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steaming_chris Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Hope you don't mind me asking, earlier you mentioned "pin wash", would you mind explaining what this means ? Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 A pin wash is enhancing detail by adding a darker wash around it. Rivets, panel lines and so on. With a fine tipped brush you add the wash around them.. I like this video for explaination.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 It has been a while since I posted something about progress on the Gmhs 53 boxcar. Well it's almost finished now after a lot of filters, oil shading , grime, streaks and dust.Still need some grease on the axle bearing pods and a bit of rust on the suspension but for the rest I'm pretty satisfied with the result, dirty and dusty but not rotten. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrg1 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Interested and very impressed with your approach to weathering-More please! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 More to come, don't worry.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 Sometimes I got the question asked do you work on commission after they see my work at shows. Well shure I do ! This time someone came to me at the expo at Leuven Belgium with a bright yellow boxcar for bananas. Sometimes I wonder if the manufacturers of rolling stock know anything about scale and color. Boy this car was bright, so bright yellow it almost hurt the eye. This made it a real challenge for me, tone it down a little with a couple of fades using the Ammo transparator medium for the first time. Couple of drops of white, bit yellow and a lot of transparator and thinner shaked well in a dropper bottle before spraying it on the car. After letting it dry for a day and a next coat with a satin varnish I put it away for a week to determine wat I would use on this car. Well decided to go with a wash for DAK, a bit brownish color for the pinwashes, wich let pop out the detail nicely. After that some streaking grime and a light spray of tracks primer on the undercarriage before I hit it with several pigments. Couple of rust tones to the springs and wheels set with streaking rust softened with odourless thinner, metal pigment on the buffers. Grease added to the bearing pods and puffers. Black and metal pigment combined with grease gives a nice result for the thick grease on the puffers in the real world. Pigments for dust on the undercarriage set with odourless thinner with the airbrush, manipulated with a brush and finally set with pigment fixer.. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonas Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 That underframe especially is awesome. What scale is this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 German 0 scale Jonas, 1:45 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted December 16, 2016 Author Share Posted December 16, 2016 New project on the bench, a German Gmms 60 company car, just finished chipping.. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Fantastic weathering Martin. I'd like to try some of the fading techniques you use. Have you ever done any British outline stock? Steve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonas Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Can we challenge you to tackle a British subject? How about a nice 16 ton mineral wagon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted December 16, 2016 Author Share Posted December 16, 2016 Never did British rolling stock, lot's of German lateley. But I'm always in for a challenge, maybe I can combine it with an article for the magazine ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 Good idea. A 16T rust bucket would be great to 'stretch your legs' on. Over 100 pages (and counting) of inspiration here. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/36891-16t-minerals/ Griff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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