Kernow announce Class 47 D1670 in two tone green and MK1 GUV as Surbiton - Okehampton car carrier

[Graham_Muz]

Two new exclusive Bachmann models announced and in stock for immediate despatch

 

Kernow Model Rail Centre are pleased to announce two new exclusive models from Bachmann in OO Gauge.

 

The first is 31-650L Class 47 Diesel Locomotive number D1670 named "Mammoth" in BR Two-Tone Green livery.

 

A Western Region named Class 47 has been on our to-do list for some time, with Mammoth selected as it worked the inaugural Clayfreighter from Burngullow to Sittingbourne conveying clay slurry to Bowaters.  The model is finished as it would have run from 1965 until the early 1970s.

 

 

This model is priced at £149.99 for the standard version, or £169.99 for DCC Fitted, or £249.99 for DCC Sound Fitted.  There is a special offer available for a limited period - our Bachmann Delabole Slate Presflo Triple Pack is available for an additional £49.99, saving £30, provided it is bought and sent at the same time as Mammoth. 

 

 

This model is in stock and available for immediate despatch.

 

The second model is 39-273Z Mk1 GUV number S86804 in BR (SR) Green livery.

 

Complete with SURBITON - OKEHAMPTON CAR CARRIER roof-boards this GUV was a familiar site along the LSWR Main Line in the early 1960s, with the train operating between June 1960 and September 1964.  The usual formation conveyed eight GUVs with capacity for 32 cars, in addition to some passenger coaches.

 

 

This model is priced at £44.95 and in stock for immediate despatch.

 

[Graham_Muz]

I have also posted some additional information on these releases especially with respect to the Surbiton - Okehampton car carriing service on my blog here http://grahammuz.com/2016/04/01/kernow-models-announce-mk1-guv-in-br-sr-green-livery-with-surbiton-okehampton-car-carrier-roof-boards-and-a-wr-class-47-in-green/

[Ian Hargrave]

D1670 was one of a batch constructed by BR.Crewe in early 1965.Initial allocation was to Cardiff Canton (86A)

[brushman47544]

Good to see this livery combination at last, with Serck grills and the correct width for the SYP and the fuel/water underframe tanks on the 47... on which basis I have already ordered one :-)

Edited April 1, 2016 by brushman47544

[Enterprisingwestern]

The only "proper" named Brush 4 I never the nameplate of as it ping ponged between the WR and Stratford.

 

Mike.

[owentherail]

How easy would it be to forward date this to 47004 OOC? I've a spare headlight.

[Enterprisingwestern]

Sacrilege.

 

Mike.

[Peter Kazmierczak]

Illustrates how attractive and well-proportioned the Brush 4s were in their original livery.

[JohnR]

Really good news about 'Mammoth' - what we really need are some containers in that early Freightliner livery of grey with a red stripe. Suggestions anyone?

[Gwiwer]

Good to see another commission from Camborne.  I know one or two comments have been made about their prices of late but we live now in days when you don't get a main line loco for under £100 any more.  £45 for a GUV specific to a single working is also not unreasonable in my opinion.  

 

The 47s don't get a lot of use here as it is and the named ones were uncommon in the far south-west but there may be a home for another WR "namer" in due course.

[Bodmin Bob]

Without wanting to pour scorn on the Surbiton - Okehampton GUV model - am I right in thinking this is effectively the standard Bachmann GUV model but with one of the distinctive train nameboards attached to each side. If so then the £11 supplement for simply adding the name boards would seem somewhat excessive.

 

If it is a completely new model on the basis that the hinged ends on these vehicles were different than those on the standard GUV then I stand corrected.

 

I would like to run a model of the full train but if I go ahead and buy say 7 of these then that is going to cost a considerable amount more than simply buying 7 standard green GUVs

[Ian Hargrave]

I appreciate that finances are strained but that is the way of the world at this moment in time with the standard going rate for high quality coaching stock around the£40 mark besides which this is a retailer's commission which adds a premium..

 

Sorry but I'm firmly with Gwiwer on this.The pricing is well in line with other Kernow commissions. If you want it,you have to grit your teeth,pay up and enjoy it or walk away.

[brushman47544]

What does surprise me about the 47 is that this version of two tone green with SYP and Serck grills is by far the most common and long lasting, so I am really surprised this is a special commission not a standard release.

 

Interesting that of all the WR namers, Kernow has chosen MAMMOTH as that was the one released by Hornby all those years ago.

[bennyboy]

Nice. It brings back memories of the Hornby version which I received as a Christmas present many years ago.

[Phil Bullock]

But not for early 70s modellers folks as was GFYE by April 69

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidwf2009/25074645523/

 

Cheers

 

Phil

[brushman47544]

How easy would it be to forward date this to 47004 OOC? I've a spare headlight.

47004 was Brush built (as D1524) whereas D1670 was Crewe built. D1524 had a Spanner boiler so had a round boiler port in the roof; D1670 had a Clayton so had a square port in the roof in a different position. Try this thread on the previous version of RMWeb http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=23768

[Gwiwer]

Interesting that of all the WR namers, Kernow has chosen MAMMOTH as that was the one released by Hornby all those years ago.

 

 

Perhaps the descendants of their families refused licences for Thor or Odin

 

One of the things I always noticed about the WR namers was the variation in plate length.  From just four letters - and which meant the plate was sometimes overlooked - to the fullness of IKB or GJC stretching near half-way along the body sides.

[No Decorum]

Another 47? Another Mammoth? Even if better than the one I have. What I’d like would be those Bulleid diesels.

[Phil Bullock]

Spot on re those nameplates Gwiwer

 

 

But I guess George Jackson Churchward took the record!

 

They were almost honorary hydraulics on the WR and common at Worcester

 

 

But realised I don't need a Kernow one - here she is twixt 69 and 72

 

 

All based on Bacchy Thor - correct grilles and boiler port

 

Phil

Edited April 4, 2016 by Phil Bullock

[Clive Mortimore]

Mammoth has just been collected from next door......they take in more parcels for us than we do ourselves. Not bad as I only ordered it at 9.15 am yesterday.

 

On visual inspection it is One thing I think might be missing is the red route restriction dots under the numbers. Most WR Type Four and a Half carried these, does anyone know if D1670 did not?

 

 

At last a Bachy Brush with serck shutters in two tone green.   Ok I could have repainted one of the other liveries but have you seen the pile of D1500s I have waiting outside the paint shop.

 

 

Edit, to answer my own question I found 5 photos of it in the livery as modelled, three of them show the red dots, and two do not.

Edited April 5, 2016 by Clive Mortimore

[Peter Kazmierczak]

Think the longer nameplates were made exactly the same way as those on the "Westerns".

[Phil Bullock]

Yes indeed Peter - and looks like they got just as bent and battered!

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/d9006/5104952267/in/photolist-cXcmLU-pfsMXj-dF24Tn-c4TD2J-o6Y8Jg-jNvskx-qHxt5h-95y7UT-bF5oRU-am9QWB-8JMcc4-9g6hhJ-EcL7wx-8KMYMz-bTZ9g6-5oZixt-8LRNpi-8GnQx1-9833ir-9p7Mnf-4xZenY-DU2aCv-9oCnyu-besyoZ-9p4JcF-dJfyAm-9p4Hdr-besyiF-9u6Uwy-aQJ84a-845RNQ-8M7f9M-9fJQbz-EnAqDN-8M7cae-8M7dsp-mqD4st-BQoK31-DVK4tn

 

Cant find evidence of a red route availability disc Clive - and she was GFYE by Dec 1967!

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/24893376199/in/photolist-pfsMXj-dF24Tn-c4TD2J-o6Y8Jg-jNvskx-qHxt5h-95y7UT-bF5oRU-am9QWB-8JMcc4-9g6hhJ-EcL7wx-8KMYMz-bTZ9g6-5oZixt-8LRNpi-8GnQx1-9833ir-9p7Mnf-4xZenY-DU2aCv-9oCnyu-besyoZ-9p4JcF-cXcmLU-dJfyAm-9p4Hdr-besyiF-9u6Uwy-aQJ84a-845RNQ-8M7f9M-9fJQbz-EnAqDN-8M7cae-8M7dsp-mqD4st-BQoK31-DVK4tn

 

If you do find evidence don't go buying transfers just to get some - have oodles here, happy to pop some in post

 

Phil

Edited April 5, 2016 by Phil Bullock

[Clive Mortimore]

Yes indeed Peter - and looks like they got just as bent and battered!

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/d9006/5104952267/in/photolist-cXcmLU-pfsMXj-dF24Tn-c4TD2J-o6Y8Jg-jNvskx-qHxt5h-95y7UT-bF5oRU-am9QWB-8JMcc4-9g6hhJ-EcL7wx-8KMYMz-bTZ9g6-5oZixt-8LRNpi-8GnQx1-9833ir-9p7Mnf-4xZenY-DU2aCv-9oCnyu-besyoZ-9p4JcF-dJfyAm-9p4Hdr-besyiF-9u6Uwy-aQJ84a-845RNQ-8M7f9M-9fJQbz-EnAqDN-8M7cae-8M7dsp-mqD4st-BQoK31-DVK4tn

 

Cant find evidence of a red route availability disc Clive - and she was GFYE by Dec 1967!

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/24893376199/in/photolist-pfsMXj-dF24Tn-c4TD2J-o6Y8Jg-jNvskx-qHxt5h-95y7UT-bF5oRU-am9QWB-8JMcc4-9g6hhJ-EcL7wx-8KMYMz-bTZ9g6-5oZixt-8LRNpi-8GnQx1-9833ir-9p7Mnf-4xZenY-DU2aCv-9oCnyu-besyoZ-9p4JcF-cXcmLU-dJfyAm-9p4Hdr-besyiF-9u6Uwy-aQJ84a-845RNQ-8M7f9M-9fJQbz-EnAqDN-8M7cae-8M7dsp-mqD4st-BQoK31-DVK4tn

 

If you do find evidence don't go buying transfers just to get some - have oodles here, happy to pop some in post

 

Phil

Hi Phil

 

No dots

https://www.flickr.com/photos/camperdown/8317832743/in/photolist-dF24Tn-o6Y8Jg-95y7UT-bF5oRU-dWw1e-o2Aa4x-jNvskx-5MRfLF-c4TD2J-pfsMXj-o5RGyT-bQLXqx-pJWDvZ-9NhPgz-qHxt5h-ad1ktw-aD8Sd3-9BQVj6-dNLZnz-55yxAb-55upzr-55yUZo-54e68v-56psnV-8JMcc4-9g6hhJ-8KMYMz-EnAqDN-8LRNpi-4nEioP-am9QWB-DU2aCv-pFm942-bTZ9g6-dYgG53-besyoZ-besymP-bevugH-dYb4Ug-mqD4st-axuCxf-5oZixt-besyiF-8GnQx1-dYgG3Y-axuCkA-pz1pRz-besyqV-bevupP-EcL7wx

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/67444577@N02/7263949216/in/photolist-c4TD2J-pfsMXj-o5RGyT-bQLXqx-pJWDvZ-9NhPgz-qHxt5h-ad1ktw-aD8Sd3-9BQVj6-dNLZnz-55yxAb-55upzr-55yUZo-54e68v-56psnV-8JMcc4-9g6hhJ-8KMYMz-EnAqDN-8LRNpi-4nEioP-am9QWB-DU2aCv-pFm942-bTZ9g6-dYgG53-besyoZ-besymP-bevugH-dYb4Ug-mqD4st-axuCxf-5oZixt-besyiF-8GnQx1-dYgG3Y-axuCkA-pz1pRz-besyqV-bevupP-EcL7wx-buwcTv-9oCnyu-5CPyqN-9u6Uwy-845RNQ-8M7f9M-pwRqpa-3JrcWv

 

Dots

https://www.flickr.com/photos/59835095@N02/6263608340/in/photolist-axuCxf-5oZixt-besyiF-8GnQx1-dYgG3Y-axuCkA-8KMYMz-EnAqDN-8LRNpi-besyqV-pz1pRz-bevupP-adjtHV-EcL7wx-amj6SP-dYgG7j-9833ir-9p7Mnf-buwcTv-dYb4Q4-9oCnyu-ammVLN-dJfyAm-9p4JcF-8a3F2s-5CPyqN-9p4Hdr-s1AtkS-pLofFx-d9c1ro-6bCiNZ-o2K1ji-9u6Uwy-okZsFz-eSaE87-4xZenY-845RNQ-8M7f9M-azgsT7-amj7zH-eSaE9d-pwRqpa-9fJQbz-grrHkP-dYgG2Y-eSaE6Y-9o2Fda-ou3kva-9o2EKk-9PYXhE

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/24292321@N02/5051417838/in/photolist-8GnQx1-dYgG3Y-axuCkA-8KMYMz-EnAqDN-8LRNpi-besyqV-pz1pRz-bevupP-adjtHV-EcL7wx-amj6SP-dYgG7j-9833ir-9p7Mnf-buwcTv-dYb4Q4-9oCnyu-ammVLN-dJfyAm-9p4JcF-8a3F2s-5CPyqN-9p4Hdr-s1AtkS-pLofFx-d9c1ro-6bCiNZ-o2K1ji-9u6Uwy-okZsFz-eSaE87-4xZenY-845RNQ-8M7f9M-azgsT7-amj7zH-eSaE9d-pwRqpa-9fJQbz-grrHkP-dYgG2Y-eSaE6Y-9o2Fda-ou3kva-9o2EKk-9PYXhE-dGN3iK-gtD1B1-dGPMRL

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/21362577985/in/photolist-ff5XsM-h9nhC4-3JvwB3-aAYtDn-9H9nUs-3Jrdhr-dHa3wH-e5SP4D-aQJ84a-9H6uHV-9H9xT3-bxgwm1-ffjys1-bGan5x-ff5hWg-2ECBw1-9H6DTp-aogkhV-azdPBr-dGN47D-9H9psj-qumVL6-2ECByy-bM2aLc-2ECBwG-e9zSj2-e5YsA5-bsrpUb-9H9yhY-8okkcY-9PWqkV-Dtkp7D-BQoK31-9PYU2U-bRGmbP-54Xf1S-djxwEF-9PW3wt-8Ex3Hr-yxJNb6-54XeoE-zeVQkV-a2DkW9-ytcixQ-yH5D5K-zVWm3N-pf11jG-pCSZ1J-pakL6i-vbea12

 

I do have a plan, dots on one side and no dots the other side then it is right. Thanks for the offer of some transfers, I have some Fox ones tucked away somewhere.

[Phil Bullock]

That sounds like a cunning plan!

 

Is that a cast shedplate too?

 

Never noticed that on a Brush Type 4 before...

 

Phil

[Clive Mortimore]

That sounds like a cunning plan!

 

Is that a cast shedplate too?

 

Never noticed that on a Brush Type 4 before...

 

Phil

Hi Phil

 

It is a shed plate, the WR put them down there. The ER placed them on the front, under the headcode windie. Not sure if the LMR or NER used cast depot plates, I can recall seeing stenciled shed codes on locos from all regions when trainspotting.