Industrial Terriers

[nomisd]

Following on from the topic of Terriers in Argentina, this is a list of the Terriers that were sold into industrial use. It is taken from various publications. The locos are listed by name. Additions and corrections welcome.

 

BRAMLEY   Sold to George Pauling & Co, 9/1902. For use on GW/GC Joint line construction, Northolt Junction to High Wycombe section. Scrapped, 10/1909.

DENMARK  Sold to George Pauling & Co, 7/1902. For use on GW/GC Joint line construction, Northolt Junction to High Wycombe section. Scrapped, 10/1909.

FENCHURCH  Sold to Newhaven Harbour, 6/1898. To Southern Railway, 1926.

SOUTHDOWN Sold to The Admiralty, Rosyth Dockyard, 2/1918. To Mine Depot Grangemouth, No 5, 6/1920. Sold for scrap 8/1921.

MILWALL  Sold to The Admiralty, Invergordon, 2/1918. Sold to Shropshire & Montgomery Railway, 8 DIDO , 11/1923.

BISHOPGATE Sold to George Pauling & Co, 6/1902. For use on GW/GC Joint line construction, Northolt Junction to High Wycombe section. See this message for potential fate.

SURREY   Sold to George Pauling & Co, 9/1902. For use on GW/GC Joint line construction, Northolt Junction to High Wycombe section. See this message for potential fate.

THAMES  Sold to George Pauling & Co, 5/1902. For use on GW/GC Joint line construction, Northolt Junction to High Wycombe section. See this message for potential fate.

BRIXTON  Sold via Ryland Smith to Grassmoor Colliery, Derbyshire, 4/1920, renamed ASHGATE. Sold or scrapped, c1934

DEPTFORD Sold to Edge Hill Light Railway, 4/1919, No 1. Scrapped 4/1946

SHADWELL Sold to Edge Hill Light Railway, 7/1920, No 2. Scrapped 5/1946

MINORIES  Sold to The Admiralty, Invergordon?, 1/1918 To Chatham Dockyard, CHATHAM No 4, ?/?. Sold 10/1933

BEULAH  Sold to The Admiralty, Invergordon, 1/1918. Sold to Shropshire & Montgomery Railway, 7 HECATE, 8/1921.

EARLSWOOD Sold to The Admiralty, Invergordon, 1/1918. Sold to Shropshire & Montgomery Railway, 9 DAPHNE, 11/1923.

 

[Ian Smeeton]

Three terriers to Scotland!

 

There might be a chance of one or two of those being diverted en route, just to help out with a local Motive Power shortage.

 

Gives an excuse for finding them anywhere up the ECML/WCML/MML or even Settle & Carlisle,.

 

Possibly even on the Waverley Route, or do you think that the Admiralty would have shipped them by sea? (and spoiled all of our might -have -beens)

 

Regards & Rule 1 for ever.

 

Ian

[David4472]

Do you have dates for Beulah working at Dalmore Distillery?

 

David

[66C]

Hi David

 

I have been informed that Beulah was at Dalmore about 1921 prior to being purchased by Colonel Stephens for the Shropshire and Montgomery Railway.

 

Regards.

[JohnR]

Three terriers to Scotland!

 

There might be a chance of one or two of those being diverted en route, just to help out with a local Motive Power shortage.

 

Gives an excuse for finding them anywhere up the ECML/WCML/MML or even Settle & Carlisle,.

 

Possibly even on the Waverley Route, or do you think that the Admiralty would have shipped them by sea? (and spoiled all of our might -have -beens)

 

Regards & Rule 1 for ever.

 

Ian

 

I'm sure a certain Captain would have diverted them for use on the S&D...

[66C]

Hi again

 

I have just been pointed to this on the RMweb archive:

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1973

 

Regards.

[Steamysandy]

Regarding the previous post,many years ago (in the 1920s?)Locomotive magazine had a series about the Terriers a reference was made to an unidentified Terrier being seen on an N B shed during WW1.Iseem to recall it was St Margaret's in Edinburgh.So did it cross the Forth Bridge?

I think this was the Southdown but it went unidentified.

I'm sure I've seen a photo in a Navy book of a Terrier being used to move munitions in a store yard at Invergordon.

Like Scapa Flow,Warships were based and stocked here so moving shells around would have been their duties.I believe that the distilleries were turned over for munitions work.

This photograph would be crown copyright. If I rediscover it I will post it's location

[Steamysandy]

I had an article published in the August 1986 Railway World about Beardmore's Shipyard on the Clyde at Clydebank.Next door was an Admiralty depot for disposals and I wrote that the Terriers were sold to Col Stephens from there.Waddon is preserved in Canada alongside a diesel railcar built in the 1920s and fitted with an engine built at Beardmore's.Beardmore built about 500 steam locos mainly for export but they included batches of LNWR Prince of Wales 4-6-0s,GE B12s and N7s and LMS Jinties.They also built early diesel engines for Canada as mentioned above.

The yard closed in 1930 but the Admiralty depot lasted much later and in 1946 the Duke of Sutherland's 0-4-4t," Dunrobin" was used as shunter!It was from this yard in 1921 that the Terriers were sold to Colonel Stephens for the Shropshire and Montgomery

In the 1980s the entire area was cleared and is today the site of the Royal Golden Jubilee Hospital.Originally a private venture it is now run by NHS Scotland as a clearing Hospital and it was a visit for a pre op for Cataracts last year which reminded me of the Article

The complex includes a Hotel(!) Which carries the name Beardmore.

Edited March 13, 2018 by Steamysandy

[Alex TM]

On 31/10/2017 at 23:03, Steamysandy said:

an unidentified Terrier being seen on an N B shed during WW1.Iseem to recall it was St Margaret's in Edinburgh.So did it cross the Forth Bridge?

Hi folks,

 

Sorry to resurrect this thread after so long.  I found it, again, today while looking for something else.

 

In reference to the above quote would it be safe to assume the Terrier in question was the one that went to the Admiralty at Rosyth?  Even today that would be a relatively straightforward journey as I believe the branch dwon from Inverkeithing remains in place.  It's route from their to Grangemouth could be interesting as all the variations I can think of involve running on busy lines.

 

Have you any further details regarding the years or editions of the series of articles you mention.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

Alex.

[Erlestokemanor7812]

On 31/10/2017 at 23:03, Steamysandy said:

Regarding the previous post,many years ago (in the 1920s?)Locomotive magazine had a series about the Terriers a reference was made to an unidentified Terrier being seen on an N B shed during WW1.Iseem to recall it was St Margaret's in Edinburgh.So did it cross the Forth Bridge?

I think this was the Southdown but it went unidentified.

I'm sure I've seen a photo in a Navy book of a Terrier being used to move munitions in a store yard at Invergordon.

Like Scapa Flow,Warships were based and stocked here so moving shells around would have been their duties.I believe that the distilleries were turned over for munitions work.

This photograph would be crown copyright. If I rediscover it I will post it's location

Dragging this thread up from the grave again, I don't suppose you ever found that photo did you? Long shot I know... 🤣

[Nick C]

On 05/02/2024 at 22:44, Erlestokemanor7812 said:

Dragging this thread up from the grave again, I don't suppose you ever found that photo did you? Long shot I know... 🤣

There is, or at least was when we went there in '22, at least one photo on the wall in the Alness Heritage Centre - if that's any help?

 

Partial photo on this page too: https://www.fofnl.org.uk/newsletters/20May/20may24.php

 

and here: https://www.fofnl.org.uk/fne80.php