HeatonLodge40 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just seen this steam locomotive on flikr at Heaton Lodge Junction its not my photo but it may be interesting ? https://www.flickr.com/photos/neil_harvey_railway_photos/36394669862 Thanks - that happens to be the exact point at which the layout is at now. Never seen that pic before 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HeatonLodge40 Posted September 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2017 Well I've just picked up the next two boards from Norman Saunders so got my work cut out for the next few days laying the concrete trunking. I'm going to fit the gas bottle storage compound at the same time before the boards go to White Rose in Bedale for fitting into the frames which support the scenery. Then they come back to me for all the scenic stuff.. Difficult to see from the photos but the two tracks branching off climb quite steeply (1:80). Later they will drop just as steeply down to the dive under tunnels.. Really pleased with the three TTA JLTRT tanks I've been building purely for experience. I've another 12 coming from JLTRT which I'll build as one batch then a final 10 making a train of 25. Spent far too much time weathering them with an airbrush and AK Interactive oil/fuel stains. Learnt a lot from these and with the M&M models ball race bearing fitted they run fantastically well 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Holt Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Love seeing progress with this project. Superb modelling. Can i just point out that on the small LPG vessel in the cylinder compound, the angular projection on the body, which represents the hood over the valves and fittings, should be on the top centre line? Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 25 TTA's wow That's going to be an impressive train!! And a heavy one too. Good job you've gone for roller bearings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Love seeing progress with this project. Superb modelling. Can i just point out that on the small LPG vessel in the cylinder compound, the angular projection on the body, which represents the hood over the valves and fittings, should be on the top centre line? Dave. Didn't know that, that's interesting cheers Dave. I'll get the scalpel out.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 25 TTA's wow That's going to be an impressive train!! And a heavy one too. Good job you've gone for roller bearings. There's a few heavy trains planned for Heaton Lodge. The heaviest is 2 x 56's and 20 TEA bogie tanks. Can't say yet whose designed and manufacturing the TEA's but the detail on them is superb and once they are ready to produce they will be available in kit form. Needless to say I don't think anything will pull 20 without the bearing but I could be wrong Cheers Simon 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 7, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2017 Not knowing the area you're modelling, but why is there a gas cylinder compound between what look to be main running lines? The cylinders are heavy and hard to manhandle, it seems a strange place to store them without vehicular access. ( Unless that will be on the next board). Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted September 7, 2017 Author Share Posted September 7, 2017 There's a few heavy trains planned for Heaton Lodge. The heaviest is 2 x 56's and 20 TEA bogie tanks. Can't say yet whose designed and manufacturing the TEA's but the detail on them is superb and once they are ready to produce they will be available in kit form. Needless to say I don't think anything will pull 20 without the bearing but I could be wrong Cheers Simon That there Lambo you scared the sxxxs out of me with ought to do it,Simon - if not, there's always Silvia's diesel! Cheers. Allan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Not knowing the area you're modelling, but why is there a gas cylinder compound between what look to be main running lines? The cylinders are heavy and hard to manhandle, it seems a strange place to store them without vehicular access. ( Unless that will be on the next board). Stu Good question Stu, but yes the gas cylinder fed propane point heaters which were installed on all the nearby point work. They changed over to electric in the early 1990's and the compound was pulled down. There is vehicle access via a dirt track which (as you rightly guessed) drops down between the lines over the next two boards to connect with a country lane. Here is 40121 heading west past the compound in 1983.. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted September 7, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2017 Not knowing the area you're modelling, but why is there a gas cylinder compound between what look to be main running lines? The cylinders are heavy and hard to manhandle, it seems a strange place to store them without vehicular access. ( Unless that will be on the next board). Stu Good question Stu, but yes the gas cylinder fed propane point heaters which were installed on all the nearby point work. They changed over to electric in the early 1990's and the compound was pulled down. There is vehicle access via a dirt track which (as you rightly guessed) drops down between the lines over the next two boards to connect with a country lane. Here is 40121 heading west past the compound in 1983.. As this is on my 'local patch', for context, this is the position today with the concrete base for the original compound still visible beyond the slope up from Wood Lane, and between the running lines before the current Heaton Lodge East Junction. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.6790033,-1.714897,488m/data=!3m1!1e3?dcr=0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 7, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2017 As this is on my 'local patch', for context, this is the position today with the concrete base for the original compound still visible beyond the slope up from Wood Lane, and between the running lines before the current Heaton Lodge East Junction. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.6790033,-1.714897,488m/data=!3m1!1e3?dcr=0 Ah, thanks for that, makes it all clear now. It just looked a very odd idea... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Star Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Really pleased with the three TTA JLTRT tanks I've been building What paint and colour have you been using for the tank body and the solebar? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 What paint and colour have you been using for the tank body and the solebar? The nearest colour I could find for the Shell Grey was Precision Paints BRT light grey (P202). The solebar is buffer beam red also by Precision but heavily weathered. Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Holt Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Looking at your prototype photo, it's clear that, in this particular case, the LPG vessel does not have a valve hood fitted. Thus, the various valves and fittings along the top are exposed. The off-take pipe (which looks as if it is lagged, oddly, from the apparent size of it) rises vertically to a horizontal leg and then goes vertically down and into the ground on the far side of the vessel. Clearly visible are the vessel lifting lugs at each end, which look to be mounted on the corner of the dished ends - a classic location.on older vessels. Hope this helps. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Looking at your prototype photo, it's clear that, in this particular case, the LPG vessel does not have a valve hood fitted. Thus, the various valves and fittings along the top are exposed. The off-take pipe (which looks as if it is lagged, oddly, from the apparent size of it) rises vertically to a horizontal leg and then goes vertically down and into the ground on the far side of the vessel. Clearly visible are the vessel lifting lugs at each end, which look to be mounted on the corner of the dished ends - a classic location.on older vessels. Hope this helps. Dave. Thanks Dave I've zoomed in on this and you are obviously correct. Thanks for that. I'm making the red warning notices on each end and my best guess as to the wording would be Danger! No Naked Flame etc but clearly there are more words than this on the sign. Can you suggest what the standard wording would have been back in the 1980's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Holt Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Sorry, I can't really help with the notice. It doesn't look look a standard LPG company notice to me - that would have the hazard diamond with "UN1978" product number. Although the photo becomes blurred when I enlarge it, it looks to me as if there is only three lines of large text, so perhaps it was a BR own notice, being on their property? Perhaps someone has a better photo of a BR LPG compound from the period? Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) Thanks Dave I've zoomed in on this and you are obviously correct. Thanks for that. I'm making the red warning notices on each end and my best guess as to the wording would be Danger! No Naked Flame etc but clearly there are more words than this on the sign. Can you suggest what the standard wording would have been back in the 1980's? Try this mate. [ url=https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=lpg+warning+signs&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=nWi2WdCYM7HS8]https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=lpg+warning+signs&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=nWi2WdCYM7HS8[/url] Flammable Gas Diamond With Flames Symbol In 4 styles From £1.27 warning diamond with flames symbol Text: highly flammable lpg Warning Diamond With Flames Symbol In 4 styles From £1.27 FREE - SafetySignSupplies - Catalogue 30,000 products all available next day Text: FREE - SafetySignSupplies - Catalogue 30,000 Products All Available Next Day In 1 style From £0.00 dual sign flammable warning symbol & no matches symbol Text: l.p.g. highly flammable no smoking or naked lights Dual Sign Flammable Warning Symbol & No Matches Symbol In 22 styles From £3.99 Warning diamond, white background and text with red gas bottle and border. Text: LPG Warning Diamond, White Background And Text With Red Gas Bottle And Border. In 4 styles From £1.27 Gas leak action sign. Gas leak Action ON DISCOVERING A GAS LEAK 1. Extinguish all naked flames and cigarettes. 2. Turn off the supply at the control valve. 3. Open all windows. 4. Call gas emergency on: BLANK SPACE If the escap persists: 5. Evacuate building immediately. 6. Report to the external assembly point at:- BLANK SPACE Text: Gas leak action sign. Gas leak Action ON DISCOVERING A GAS LEAK 1. Extinguish all naked flames and cigarettes. 2. Turn off the supply at the control valve. 3. Open all windows. 4. Call gas emergency on: BLANK SPACE If the escap persists: 5. Evacuate building immediately. 6. Report to the external assembly point at:- BLANK SPACE Gas Leak Action Sign. Gas Leak Action ON DISCOVERING A GAS LEAK 1. Extinguish All Naked Flames And Cigarettes. 2. Turn Off The Supply At The Control Valve. 3. Open All Windows. 4. Call Gas Emergency On: BLANK SPACE If The Escap Persists: 5. Evacuate Building Immediately. 6. Report To The External Assembly Point At:- BLANK SPACE In 31 styles From £2.59 dual sign flammable warning symbol no smoking symbol and mandatory exlamation Text: Danger L.P.G. Highly flammable No smoking Switch off engine Dual Sign Flammable Warning Symbol No Smoking Symbol And Mandatory Exlamation In 2 styles From £34.65 fire in warning triangle Text: l.p.g. highly flammable Fire In Warning Triangle In 73 styles From £1.03 toxic gas diamond with scull and cross bones symbol Text: toxic gas Toxic Gas Diamond With Scull And Cross Bones Symbol In 4 styles From £1.27 Flammable Gas Diamond With Flames Symbol In 4 stylesFrom £1.27 Warning Diamond With Flames SymbolIn 4 stylesFrom £1.27 FREE - SafetySignSupplies - Catalogue 30,000 Products All Available Next DayIn 1 styleFrom £0.00 Dual Sign Flammable Warning Symbol & No Matches SymbolIn 22 stylesFrom £3.99 Warning Diamond, White Background And Text With Red Gas Bottle And Border.In 4 stylesFrom £1.27 Gas Leak Action Sign. Gas Leak Action ON DISCOVERING A GAS LEAK 1. Extinguish All Naked Flames And Cigarettes. 2. Turn Off The Supply At The Control Valve. 3. Open All Windows. 4. Call Gas Emergency On: BLANK SPACE If The Escap Persists: 5. Evacuate Building Immediately. 6. Report To The External Assembly Point At:- BLANK SPACEIn 31 stylesFrom £2.59 Dual Sign Flammable Warning Symbol No Smoking Symbol And Mandatory ExlamationIn 2 stylesFrom £34.65 Fire In Warning TriangleIn 73 stylesFrom £1.03 Toxic Gas Diamond With Scull And Cross Bones SymbolIn 4 stylesFrom £1.27 Flammable Gas Diamond With Flames Symbol In 4 stylesFrom £1.27 Warning Diamond With Flames SymbolIn 4 stylesFrom £1.27 FREE - SafetySignSupplies - Catalogue 30,000 Products All Available Next DayIn 1 styleFrom £0.00 Dual Sign Flammable Warning Symbol & No Matches SymbolIn 22 stylesFrom £3.99 Warning Diamond, White Background And Text With Red Gas Bottle And Border.In 4 stylesFrom £1.27 Gas Leak Action Sign. Gas Leak Action ON DISCOVERING A GAS LEAK 1. Extinguish All Naked Flames And Cigarettes. 2. Turn Off The Supply At The Control Valve. 3. Open All Windows. 4. Call Gas Emergency On: BLANK SPACE If The Escap Persists: 5. Evacuate Building Immediately. 6. Report To The External Assembly Point At:- BLANK SPACEIn 31 stylesFrom £2.59 Dual Sign Flammable Warning Symbol No Smoking Symbol And Mandatory ExlamationIn 2 stylesFrom £34.65 Fire In Warning TriangleIn 73 stylesFrom £1.03 Toxic Gas Diamond With Scull And Cross Bones SymbolIn 4 stylesFrom £1.27 Edited September 11, 2017 by allan downes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Thanks Allan that's great! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) Its a bit boring gluing metres of concrete trunking in various shades but well worth the end result. The exposed cables are probably a bit more numerous on the model than the real thing but they look good! At the moment I'm trying to get the rough dusty surface right for where the compound sits in the middle of the tracks. I'm painting it Humbrol pale grey before sprinkling chinchilla dust and sieved wood ash onto the wet paint to get that lighter shade. This on top of foam board out of which I've cut indentations in for puddles a bit later. I've used clay to smooth out the puddle holes and create slight differences in the surface. I'll be adding all manner of old bricks, bits of rail etc later. Does anyone know what the yellow painted parallel lines signify painted on concrete trunking every now and again by PW men? Seen it a lot on the real thing. Edited September 17, 2017 by HeatonLodge40 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatonLodge40 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Bit of progress on the propane gas compound in the last couple weeks. Had to do a bit of woodwork to infill the space between the tracks which always seemed to have lots of railway rubbish kicking about on it and was often waterlogged in the early '80's. I've some details to add yet and touching up to do but the warning signs are on, the compound and bottles weathered complete with Calor logos, and 'water' added to form big puddles. This lighter coloured ground is sieved wood ash from a fireplace & chinchilla dust from pets at home. Water is woodland scenics realistic water tinted with the 'murky' dye they sell and additional ballast is a mixture of 3 colours with thin superglue to secure it. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post HeatonLodge40 Posted December 4, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2017 For the last few weeks I've been concentrating on building some JLTRT TTA tank kits (15 almost completed so far, from 50 I need) and finding some permanent premises for Heaton Lodge big enough to have it set up in its entirety when complete in 2 years or so. In the meantime the second 12ft long crossover is under construction and this has held things up a bit.. Fortunately I've found an old mill basement that's exactly 180ft long to house HL available to rent. It needs lighting and decorating so I'm about to get my hands dirty! Unless its on its way to a future exhibition, HL will be living here from next year which makes it so much easier to work on (instead of one section at a time). The layout will use all the space lengthways in the picture.. The TTA tanks are taking more room than I thought. This rake of just 12 forms half of a train, of what will eventually be 25 TTA's.. Pulled by 2 x 37's I can't wait to see this chugging up the 1:137 constant gradient.. They are awaiting transfers and weathering plus coupling and brake hoses. I'm experimenting with fitting battery powered sound chips into every tenth TTA so they replicate flange squeal and the odd flat spotted wheel! 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted December 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 4, 2017 For the last few weeks I've been concentrating on building some JLTRT TTA tank kits (15 almost completed so far, from 50 I need) and finding some permanent premises for Heaton Lodge big enough to have it set up in its entirety when complete in 2 years or so. In the meantime the second 12ft long crossover is under construction and this has held things up a bit.. Fortunately I've found an old mill basement that's exactly 180ft long to house HL available to rent. It needs lighting and decorating so I'm about to get my hands dirty! Unless its on its way to a future exhibition, HL will be living here from next year which makes it so much easier to work on (instead of one section at a time). The layout will use all the space lengthways in the picture.. The TTA tanks are taking more room than I thought. This rake of just 12 forms half of a train, of what will eventually be 25 TTA's.. Pulled by 2 x 37's I can't wait to see this chugging up the 1:137 constant gradient.. They are awaiting transfers and weathering plus coupling and brake hoses. I'm experimenting with fitting battery powered sound chips into every tenth TTA so they replicate flange squeal and the odd flat spotted wheel! Room for a few more layouts in there. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 link Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) For the last few weeks I've been concentrating on building some JLTRT TTA tank kits (15 almost completed so far, from 50 I need) and finding some permanent premises for Heaton Lodge big enough to have it set up in its entirety when complete in 2 years or so. In the meantime the second 12ft long crossover is under construction and this has held things up a bit.. Fortunately I've found an old mill basement that's exactly 180ft long to house HL available to rent. It needs lighting and decorating so I'm about to get my hands dirty! Unless its on its way to a future exhibition, HL will be living here from next year which makes it so much easier to work on (instead of one section at a time). The layout will use all the space lengthways in the picture.. The TTA tanks are taking more room than I thought. This rake of just 12 forms half of a train, of what will eventually be 25 TTA's.. Pulled by 2 x 37's I can't wait to see this chugging up the 1:137 constant gradient.. They are awaiting transfers and weathering plus coupling and brake hoses. I'm experimenting with fitting battery powered sound chips into every tenth TTA so they replicate flange squeal and the odd flat spotted wheel! Awesome, just awesome. Martyn. Edited December 4, 2017 by 3 link Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted December 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 4, 2017 On so many levels, this is just a whole world of Wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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