c2c Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Can anyone please advise me on what the different arrangements were and on what running numbers they were fitted to? Any info regarding this subject will be very much appreciated. Regards Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bescotbeast Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Can anyone please advise me on what the different arrangements were and on what running numbers they were fitted to? Any info regarding this subject will be very much appreciated. Regards Dave My advice Dave is to use http://www.class47.co.uk/ and Flickr to research your chosen loco/s . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
c2c Posted May 3, 2016 Author Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) My advice Dave is to use http://www.class47.co.uk/ and Flickr to research your chosen loco/s . Thanks for the link which has provided this picture...Would I be correct in assuming these are short range tanks fitted? Edited May 3, 2016 by c2c 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted May 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) My understanding this is the standard arrangement after the boiler water tank had been removed, but before long-range tanks were fitted, but I stand to be corrected..... Edit: This later photo of the same loco shows that the second tank has been enlarged (I think). http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_zoom_v3.php?img=1151052122200 Edited May 3, 2016 by stovepipe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 (edited) Thanks for the link which has provided this picture...Would I be correct in assuming these are short range tanks fitted? The photo shows the "battery boxes" only chassis type, most would have had water tanks also, if boiler fitted, these being removed on "some" but not all examples when they were converted to ETH and the boilers isolated or removed. The main fuel tank on a 47 is inside the body/chassis. Additional long range tanks were fitted around the battery boxes at one end to some examples: mainly 47/7 47/8's etc Original as built with water tanks (and a working boiler) https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanmonk/15954491222/in/photolist-qiQWoS-b8ZBYt-qu8Rmq-bqNP8C-bq5EZD-notgSL-mhm37z-phhoSr-oH7bwF-o3vjnr-rjfUCV-o8P38a-EfpuVL-ooSbpB-gMzABx-gPj537-bqvzed-coM7Fw-c2R5KJ-7TnRDj-m15UYR-o3PLJ2-kEEupo-coM7rN-riXm8K-dKRb2M-nViwCJ-9S9JEn-9Rx63G-m1mhZq-hVcUE5-kKXyuc-hc9XSY-hFqWqB-FHbV7-dXXdop-kMDogk-dgZCxp-dY3WVd-j7caNR-qasqw6-d2aogu-cnsU8f-hV8uVF-k3Wgg4-psRk5o-e4afCU-cnsTcw-9taXAS-khtnLi Additional long range tanks fitted: https://www.flickr.com/photos/71092681@N07/26582038445/in/photolist-GuXTVF-ayNMMn-cmEkyw-biAw4c-dTvqh7-bjVZoS-qeafHr-a6fnrw-dV1VQp-fn6AZJ-fxi5qV-nHcJ9h-difAD7-hVdxo6-kbWLjf-7EaqB7-egR5Ks-xRau5t-EPtf9G-iFZP1e-cLdCMY-nvxz7R-9RpBCU-8sHYfX-iM4dJi-dDqRJH-wA9gYG-bgU2Tz-epRuVU-kqYLTV-g8ECBq-dJ6Aox-9U1Vcc-kqYLwc-iKoqcn-hm3LM6-gdmrvd-9HP9mp-ebSS2E-e1Q9rJ-BcCG1K-cyg4vA-fP1zof-iuG4ha-8C2QvL-azKCvn-9TrRqw-9Ttmdc-bwta9w-9Twcf3 HTH Ken Edited May 4, 2016 by tractor_37260 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
c2c Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share Posted May 4, 2016 Thanks for the response guys. Any more info on the 47 battery boxes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR PJ Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Hi, All class 47/3 were fitted with battery boxes only as built. Strangely they had steam heat on/off buttons in the cabs - but obviously no way of delivering any heat to the train. All the mid 80's ETH conversions - 47586 to 47649 - had battery boxes only (initially.... where it gets more complex.... ha, ha) 47650 - 47665 (no 47666 to Bruce Dickinson's lament) had long range tanks fitted Class 47/0 - all of them were built with steam heat capability and associated water tanks. A great number had the boilers and water tanks removed from the 1980s onwards. In privatisation days, many had long-range tanks fitted, along with the 47/3s. Arrangements not always like 47/8s..... beware. Class 47/4 - most were initially fitted with steam heat boilers (up until at least 47547), but many were isolated in due course, and a number had the water tanks removed (e.g 47470). Class 47/7 - had a long-range fuel tank arrangement similar (but not exactly the same) to the later Class 47/8s. The later 47/7 (721 and above) got long range tanks fitted too, but not quite the same. If you want to model an individual example look at Class 47.co.uk. There are many exceptions to a rule, so beware - what I have outlined above is an outline only. Additional fuel tanks etc gets more complicated from the 1990's onward - beware.... Cheers Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave47549 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 (edited) . Edited October 4, 2021 by Dave47549 Removed pointless guff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR PJ Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Nope, that's not so. Yes, you seem to be right looking at early photos. Would be interesting to know when tanks were removed. I guess the tanks were added as they were "standard" as built, as were the steam heat on/off buttons in the cab, or maybe there was some thought of retro fitting boilers. For pre- TOPS modellers it might present a problem if you don't have photos of your prototype. I imagine tanks must have been removed at a subsequent overhaul. Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slilley Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Nope, that's not so. All the 47/3s were built with water tanks. The first long range tanks were fitted to the 47/7s 47701-712. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 All the 47/3s were built with water tanks. The first long range tanks were fitted to the 47/7s 47701-712. Some Immingham petroleum sector 47s had a long range tank fitted in the boiler compartment. As built 47s had two fuel tanks one in the boiler compartment and one in the machine compartment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
c2c Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 Hi once more gents, Thank you very much for your helpful replies. After a break I have returned to my 47 project and dug up what I can see to be three different arrangements/applications regarding the boxes. What I would like to ask you guys, for each application was there any specific title or part No etc given to each fitting? # 1 # 2 # 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 4, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2017 Number 1 is as built with water tanks, as far as I am aware all were built like this. Number 2 water tanks removed from a ETH fitted locomotive. Freight only locos also had this arrangement when the never used tanks were taken off. Number 3 47/7 push pull loco with a long range fuel tank. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
c2c Posted January 4, 2017 Author Share Posted January 4, 2017 Cheers Clive your a star. And many thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread. Regards Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Himson Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Something you may have noticed was when the 47/7s first came out, the additional fuel tank was at the no1 (rad) end, and later moved to the no2 end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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