Oxford announce Carflat, additional liveries and sound options.

[Enterprisingwestern]

Cartic 4 anybody?

Then go for broke with a Tierwag please!

 

Mike.

[cravensdmufan]

Motorail carflat carrying some quality vehicles!: http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h411/bigslipper/sr00474.jpg

 

I had a Mk2 Escort Ghia silver with black vinyl roof - and I thought that was quality!  . wish I still had it actually!  Bit of a classic now!

 

Happy memories!

[Phil Bullock]

Formations for the Newton Abbott - Sutton Coldfield which came your way are in some of the WR Carriage Working Notices available on the BR Loco-Hauled Coaching Stock Yahoo Group. 

 

In 1967 the formation was BCK/5FK/RB/BSO/6 Carflats northbound and RB/5FK/BCK/6 Carflats/BSO southbound.

Interesting...looks like an overprovision of passenger accommodation there... was that train available for non motorail passengers too then I wonder?

 

Also BCK....

 

Many thanks

 

Phil

[Flood]

Formations for the Newton Abbott - Sutton Coldfield which came your way are in some of the WR Carriage Working Notices available on the BR Loco-Hauled Coaching Stock Yahoo Group. 

 

In 1967 the formation was BCK/5FK/RB/BSO/6 Carflats northbound and RB/5FK/BCK/6 Carflats/BSO southbound.

For 1970-71 the formations from Newton Abbot were:

 

09.05 to Stirling MWFO; 3 FK, RU, BSO, 3 SLSTP, 4 TCV + 2 TCV from Bristol

 

13.25 to Sheffield TThSO; 2 TCV, 4 TCV, 3 FK, BSO, 3 SLSTP

 

14.15 to Sutton Coldfield SO; BFK, 2 SLSTP, 3 FK, 10 carflats LMR stock

 

15.10 to Newton-le-Willows MFO; BFK, 3 FK, SO, RF, BFK, 10 carflats

[Phil Bullock]

Cheers Flood that's great gen

 

RF in the Newton le Willows train....!!!!

 

And Guvs will have to suffice for the TCVs for the moment - but that does look like a more sensible provision of flats on the last two , but what on earth was the path like for the 14.15 to Sutton Coldfiled if it needed sleepers? Via Scunthorpe perhaps?

 

Phil

[melmerby]

I had a Mk2 Escort Ghia silver with black vinyl roof - and I thought that was quality!   . wish I still had it actually!  Bit of a classic now!

 

Happy memories!

I had a Mk3 Sebring Red 2000 GXL Cortina with vinyl roof.

At least it lasted longer than the Lancia Beta of the same period!

 

Keith

[rembrow]

I can top you all, having had a Morris Marina TC Jubilee special edition. Had vinyl roof, chrome piping, citrone special colour, tinted glass, blue velour seats, 1.8 MG twin carb engine - wow. Advertised as accelerating faster than a BMW 2002, however foolish to try as the ex Morris Minor suspension meant cornering was unpredictable

[Dunsignalling]

Interesting...looks like an overprovision of passenger accommodation there... was that train available for non motorail passengers too then I wonder?

 

Also BCK....

 

Many thanks

 

Phil

Not entirely sure of this but ISTR hearing many years ago that each car booked had a whole compartment allocated for its occupants.

 

John

[jonny777]

For 1970-71 the formations from Newton Abbot were:

 

09.05 to Stirling MWFO; 3 FK, RU, BSO, 3 SLSTP, 4 TCV + 2 TCV from Bristol

 

13.25 to Sheffield TThSO; 2 TCV, 4 TCV, 3 FK, BSO, 3 SLSTP

 

14.15 to Sutton Coldfield SO; BFK, 2 SLSTP, 3 FK, 10 carflats LMR stock

 

15.10 to Newton-le-Willows MFO; BFK, 3 FK, SO, RF, BFK, 10 carflats

 

 

Looking at the CWNs for 1971, the set working the 1415 to Sutton Coldfield is doing part of its diagram which included the 2315 FO Sutton Coldfield to Newton Abbot, then the 1415 SO return (arr Sutton at 1830), followed by the 2315 SO Sutton Coldfield to St. Austell, and 1140 SuO St Austell to Sutton Coldfield.

[Phil Bullock]

That makes more sense!

 

Cheers

 

Phil

['CHARD]

My motoring confession/ high water-mark was a then sixteen year old Sunbeam Rapier fastback during my twenties!  

 

I can but dream that PKL823R was once conveyed by Motorail in her formative years 

[Enterprisingwestern]

My motoring confession/ high water-mark was a then sixteen year old Sunbeam Rapier fastback during my twenties!  

 

I can but dream that PKL823R was once conveyed by Motorail in her formative years 

I've gone all wistful now, although they never went on a motorail, OJA 210G glade green bog standard

car, and SDP 596H red H120 were my Rapier fastbacks.

 

Mike.

[Zero Gravitas]

I can top you all, having had a Morris Marina TC Jubilee special edition. Had vinyl roof, chrome piping, citrone special colour, tinted glass, blue velour seats, 1.8 MG twin carb engine - wow. Advertised as accelerating faster than a BMW 2002, however foolish to try as the ex Morris Minor suspension meant cornering was unpredictable

And when you had a Marina 1.3 coupe in harvest gold, that is something to which you truly aspired :-)

 

The handling, however, couple be made considerably more predictable by putting a couple of paving slabs in the boot, a ruse adopted by both me and my Dad, who had a 1.8 (but not TC) estate in, you've guessed it, harvest gold.

 

Edited to correct unpredictable predictive text - again (must proof read better)

Edited May 30, 2016 by Zero Gravitas

[jonny777]

I drove a mates Marina 1.8 TC down the M40 in the late 70s. (He was following in my car - this was his idea).

 

I put my foot down and left him, and everyone else, behind. Wow, that car was fast. I had better not reveal the top speed that I achieved before I chickened out (in those days the M40 was only two lanes over much of it's short length to Stokenchurch) and turned of at the nearest junction.

 

He said I vanished into the distance; and I was never allowed to set foot in his car again.

[antrobuscp]

Not entirely sure of this but ISTR hearing many years ago that each car booked had a whole compartment allocated for its occupants.

 

John

Correct. We used the Crewe-St Austell train for a short period. You could book a sleeper or 1st class compartment per car.

 

It was a long train(from memory). 10/12 car flats(2 for Newton Abbott), Buffet+Open, 6xFK, and 2 sleepers. Not sure about this, though.

 

Colin

[Dunsignalling]

My brother had a 1.8TC Estate and it was no slouch, though (understandably) not as quick as my Vauxhall Firenza SSL (2300).

 

I don't remember the Marina handling being notably worse than most other 1970s cars I drove but I do recall us having a front tyre blow out when doing over 50mph in it which was surprisingly undramatic and easily coped with.

 

John

[JZ]

A 3 pack of carflats to add to my sleeper service. The fact that it ran over the S&D in the early hours of the morning was the reason Ivo Peters never got to photograph it.**

 

 

 

 

**That's my excuse anyway.

[TheSignalEngineer]

I drove a mates Marina 1.8 TC down the M40 in the late 70s. (He was following in my car - this was his idea).

 

I put my foot down and left him, and everyone else, behind. Wow, that car was fast. I had better not reveal the top speed that I achieved before I chickened out (in those days the M40 was only two lanes over much of it's short length to Stokenchurch) and turned of at the nearest junction.

 

He said I vanished into the distance; and I was never allowed to set foot in his car again.

Reminds me of an old friend who worked on engine performance for Austin/BL/Rover through several of their incarnations, then moved to an up-market sports car firm. The Constabulary were a bit non-plussed when they tracked him at 112mph on the M45 near Kilsby in his Metro. He was disappointed to get caught as he said it would do 130mph flat out.

Edited May 30, 2016 by TheSignalEngineer

[Clive Mortimore]

With you lot reminiscing on what motors you had when younger has made me think about my first car, a Reliant Supervan 3. There wasn't a central flap between the Carflats for loading 3 wheelers was there.     

[jonny777]

I never owned anything fast myself, as I could not afford the insurance.

 

My first car was a 1965 Austin Mini Traveller with an 850cc engine (and a battery behind the back seats - great fun if the connections were dodgy). If the road gradient was anything greater than 1 in 7, it was vital that passengers got out and walked, otherwise the car would not manage it.

[Phatbob]

With you lot reminiscing on what motors you had when younger has made me think about my first car, a Reliant Supervan 3. There wasn't a central flap between the Carflats for loading 3 wheelers was there.   

IIRC, Carflats had a full width deck, so no problems loading three-wheelers.

Edited May 30, 2016 by Phatbob

[JSpencer]

IIRC, Carflats had a full width deck, so no problems loading three-wheelers.

 

Oxford Diecast now need to "Trotters Independent traders" and the carflat will feel complete.

 

Although doubtless boring for most, a Vauxhaul Cavalier would be my "first car" choice. The second being landrovers that are pretty well covered in Oxfords range and will doubtless grace these carfalts in my use.

[Andy Y]

Oxford Diecast now need to "Trotters Independent traders" and the carflat will feel complete.

 

 

Please god no. It's a pet hate of mine when I see one on a layout.

[Clive Mortimore]

IIRC, Carflats had a full width deck, so no problems loading three-wheelers.

Hi Bob

 

I am on about the flaps that were lowered between the wagons when loading the cars, they only went over the buffers.

Please god no. It's a pet hate of mine when I see one on a layout.

And mine, we all know they should be purple with a silver roof..................well mine was.

[antrobuscp]

Our Vauxhall Chevette on a carflat at St Austell. Scanned slide from1979/80 or thereabouts.