RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted July 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 28, 2016 Fingers crossed someone takes the range on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I believe many of the LNWR carriage diagrams available from 247 are available as kits from Stevenson Carriages. There were several different suppliers of LNWR carriage kits and etched sides the 70's and 80's, mainly including Dave Gillott, Brian Badger, Ralph Jackson and Modellers World. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassey Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Some of the 247 range is duplicated in Stevensons LNWR range but not all most notably the 12 wheel dining car (thankfully I have one). There was talk of the range moving to Stevensons but I understand the original owners want far too much for the rights which the previous owner of 247 never acquired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
247 Developments Posted August 9, 2016 Author Share Posted August 9, 2016 247 Developments will be at Scaleforum 2016 Stoke Mandeville Stadium Aylesbury September 24th & 25th 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
247 Developments Posted September 7, 2016 Author Share Posted September 7, 2016 there will be a update here tomorrow about a new item to be stocked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 We are looking at stocking the cast coach parts but not the coach etches For me, a pretty important part of the range was the white-metal coach bogies, particularity the GW types and Fox bogies for LBSC, LSWR etc. Are these in the offing? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I'm very pleased that the white metal detailing parts (including hopefully the coach bogies) will be coming back, but it's a great shame that the etched coach sides will remain unavailable. Drduncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Will you be taking on commissions/expanding the range of 4mm smokebox numberplates please? Porcy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I'm very pleased that the white metal detailing parts (including hopefully the coach bogies) will be coming back, but it's a great shame that the etched coach sides will remain unavailable. Drduncan Yes, I failed to get the GW TPO sides before it was too late! And, of course, I failed to buy enough bogies! Good old fashioned white-metal bogies are hard to come by. Westward is long gone and Dart/MJT have a very limited range as most of theirs are cosmetic sides for faffy brass etches. ABS has gone by the board due to ill health (though I confess I thought it had stopped producing years ago, as I never seemed to find it), and, so, I suggest there is a real gap in the market. It will be a while yet before a decent selection of bogies is available as 3D prints, and given Shapeways prices, I'd say that the traditional white-metal bogie is still a very viable option and useful thing to have available. The 8' Fox ones served a number of companies and I feel the lack of them exceedingly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 ....ABS has gone by the board due to ill health (though I confess I thought it had stopped producing years ago, as I never seemed to find it), .... Let's see what turns up at Scaleforum, shall we....? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I don't think ABS will be there, given conversations I've had in the last couple of weeks. Drduncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) Let's see what turns up at Scaleforum, shall we....? We won't be attending 'Scaleforum',are we are dependent upon the interweb, so ABS does not presently seem likely to be a supplier available to us! We shall see, however! Edited September 9, 2016 by Edwardian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 The 8' Fox ones served a number of companies and I feel the lack of them exceedingly. While I feel we ought perhaps not to discuss competing products on Brian's thread, you do know the Perseverance range is available again? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
247 Developments Posted September 8, 2016 Author Share Posted September 8, 2016 I'm very pleased that the white metal detailing parts (including hopefully the coach bogies) will be coming back, but it's a great shame that the etched coach sides will remain unavailable. Drduncan still ongoing I will post here once we have some in stock Will you be taking on commissions/expanding the range of 4mm smokebox numberplates please? Porcy in one word YES Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
247 Developments Posted September 8, 2016 Author Share Posted September 8, 2016 247 Developments will for the P4 show at Stoke Mandeville Stadium Aylesbury selling 3d Printed Bodys for the Metropoliton Railway 4 wheel full brake here's how there come IMG_20160908_134804 by brian mosby, on Flickr IMG_20160908_134735 by brian mosby, on Flickr I have started to finish one to display on the stand IMG_20160908_134721 by brian mosby, on Flickr IMG_20160908_134754 by brian mosby, on Flickr there will be a brass chassis for it but there is no release date for it yet still working out price for the body but it looks like it will be around £22 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Can i join the whitemetal bogie plea. GCR ones would go down a storm with me. Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 247 Developments will for the P4 show at Stoke Mandeville Stadium Aylesbury selling 3d Printed Bodys for the Metropoliton Railway 4 wheel full brake here's how there come IMG_20160908_134804 by brian mosby, on Flickr IMG_20160908_134735 by brian mosby, on Flickr I have started to finish one to display on the stand IMG_20160908_134721 by brian mosby, on Flickr IMG_20160908_134754 by brian mosby, on Flickr there will be a brass chassis for it but there is no release date for it yet still working out price for the body but it looks like it will be around £22 Speaking for myself, and I hope I am not alone, the 'good news' surrounding 247's continuation is the expectation that the old range is made available once more. Clearly this will not include the coach etches, but it is very much to be hoped that it will include items such as the white-metal bogies. With the ability of many modellers to produce rolling stock by sending CAD files off to Shapeways or wherever, or cutting sides from a Silhouette, many are no longer limited to the etched brass kit market. What, I think, is harder to come by are certain accessories. Coaches need bogies or axle-box/spring assemblies, roof fittings, buffers, handles and grab rails etc. Not all of these are so easy to produce in numbers at the work-bench. Production of 3D printed coach bodies in the 247 catalogue merely increases this need. Recently I have struggled to find suitable accessories for GE and LSW coaches, for instance. I hope to master Silhouette cutting, if so, the more expensive options of etched brass and 3D print will become less relevant to me as aids to coach construction, but I would still have a need, in fact a greater need, for the sorts of accessories mentioned. I would hope, therefore, that a priority of 247 would be to re-introduce, indeed, expand, the accessories range. With other ranges extinct or at least hard to come by, these days we are pretty much left with MJT. MJT accessories are good, but the range does not cover enough ground. There are few pre-Grouping bogie designs that would not interest me. The Fox 8' is particularly useful, as it rapidly became standard on LSWR, LBSC and SE&CR. A full range of GW bogies would, I am sure, be welcomed. NE, GNR and GCR too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Carew Too Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Speaking for myself, and I hope I am not alone, the 'good news' surrounding 247's continuation is the expectation that the old range is made available once more. Clearly this will not include the coach etches, but it is very much to be hoped that it will include items such as the white-metal bogies. With the ability of many modellers to produce rolling stock by sending CAD files off to Shapeways or wherever, or cutting sides from a Silhouette, many are no longer limited to the etched brass kit market. What, I think, is harder to come by are certain accessories. Coaches need bogies or axle-box/spring assemblies, roof fittings, buffers, handles and grab rails etc. Not all of these are so easy to produce in numbers at the work-bench. Production of 3D printed coach bodies in the 247 catalogue merely increases this need. Recently I have struggled to find suitable accessories for GE and LSW coaches, for instance. I hope to master Silhouette cutting, if so, the more expensive options of etched brass and 3D print will become less relevant to me as aids to coach construction, but I would still have a need, in fact a greater need, for the sorts of accessories mentioned. I would hope, therefore, that a priority of 247 would be to re-introduce, indeed, expand, the accessories range. With other ranges extinct or at least hard to come by, these days we are pretty much left with MJT. MJT accessories are good, but the range does not cover enough ground. There are few pre-Grouping bogie designs that would not interest me. The Fox 8' is particularly useful, as it rapidly became standard on LSWR, LBSC and SE&CR. A full range of GW bogies would, I am sure, be welcomed. NE, GNR and GCR too. We have lost too much already that was of use in the kit and accessory market. It would be good to start with getting these whitemetal bogies back. I don't know what else 247D did, but I add my vote to more accessories, bogies, axlebox-W-irons for 4 and 6 will stock, vents, gas lamps and so forth. There is not enough of this stuff around any more and we can't afford to lose another range! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J C Fenton Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 GE, GC and pre-Gresley GN bogies if you do them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Can 247,or anyone, provide a list of all the various cast bogies, and any other coach or wagon accessories, that 247 used to produce? What would be a minimum order to get, say, the Fox bogies back in production? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 The old 247 site isn't accessible and the new one doesn't appear to include any carriage information. Perhaps it was all deleted when the etched parts became unavailable. The site doesn't show the new 3D coach body above, so perhaps a direct email to Brian will get the up to date picture. Brian will be able to comment on re-introduction of the cast items but if he took over the moulds (and moulding machine, etc.) then it would be very straightforward. Other suppliers do the Fox bogies AFAIK - Mailcoach AKA as Coopercraft, MJT (etched brass bogie frame and cast w/m sides) and possibly others suppliers- but I don't know about the other types. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 The old 247 site isn't accessible and the new one doesn't appear to include any carriage information. Perhaps it was all deleted when the etched parts became unavailable. The site doesn't show the new 3D coach body above, so perhaps a direct email to Brian will get the up to date picture. Brian will be able to comment on re-introduction of the cast items but if he took over the moulds (and moulding machine, etc.) then it would be very straightforward. Other suppliers do the Fox bogies AFAIK - Mailcoach AKA as Coopercraft, MJT (etched brass bogie frame and cast w/m sides) and possibly others suppliers- but I don't know about the other types. Thanks. I wanted to avoid the etched brass frame route; it's over-engineered for my purposes, more expensive and a faff; the 247 ones suited me perfectly and I wish I'd stockpiled! Mailcoach/Coopercraft, ahem, a bottomless pit into which many a good thing has disappeared, never to be seen again!!!! Pity, because I am happy with plastic and they did GW Americans too. As Mad Carew said, we have lost too many of these longstanding and useful ranges. Please let us see 247's castings return. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
247 Developments Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 I will not be getting the molds etc but stocking the casting which I will be ordering in starting of with the bogies then expanding as I sell what I orded Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I will not be getting the molds etc but stocking the casting which I will be ordering in starting of with the bogies then expanding as I sell what I orded Good news, thanks. Will you be updating here first with availability? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlswood Nob Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Good morning I am pleased that the white metal bogies will be produced again. I enjoy bashing old Triang/Hornby clerestorys into LNER pre-grouping stock. The cast bogies are ideal for this, and improve running as the weight is low down. Earlswood nob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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