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#451 Mr_Tilt

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 07:36

Hi Paul
N gauge PoP is in build, 4mm version is in paint, once I’ve fitted the ballast weights and cabling I can fit the roof frames and windows ready for decals and weathering.
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That does look good, well done. Very nostalgic for me.  :good:

 

Is that Lab 23 on the front of PC4? And what motive power did you use for the train?





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Posted 13 July 2018 - 11:43

Hi Kit
Yes lab 23, need to do the service coach aswell.
I have renumbered a Clayton and added all the extra pipework.
Cheers
Bob
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#453 Mr_Tilt

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 13:15

Hi Kit
Yes lab 23, need to do the service coach aswell.
I have renumbered a Clayton and added all the extra pipework.
Cheers
Bob
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Aggggh, a Clayton!  :o

 

Why do I find a sudden need to get a fire extinguisher?  :D

 

Lab 3, the 'service coach', is a slightly different kettle of fish. I have yet to find out what it started life as, but I suspect it was a Mk FO. By the time we were using it, there were 2 or 3 compartments installed at the PC4 end while the rest of it was open to house the instrumentation. And it had windows in the open end for the guard to observe when propelling, together with a train brake lever etc.


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Posted 13 July 2018 - 13:47

Thanks for the info Kit.
Do I need to fit a smoke generator in the Clayton!!
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Posted 13 July 2018 - 13:47

Lab 3 was an RFO I believe M1005

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 15:05

Thanks for the info Kit.
Do I need to fit a smoke generator in the Clayton!!

 

Hehehehe, to be wholly authentic, yes.  :D

 

But the exhaust would have to re-directed to come out of the last access door on the LH side of the front engine. 


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Posted 15 July 2018 - 17:25

Thanks buddy

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Posted 18 July 2018 - 12:14

Hi Paul
N gauge PoP is in build, 4mm version is in paint, once I’ve fitted the ballast weights and cabling I can fit the roof frames and windows ready for decals and weathering.
Cheers
Bob
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Oh nice work, look forward to seeing the prototype N gauge version painted up.

 

Well done.



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Posted 19 July 2018 - 18:23

Hi Folks,

 

The POP train features in this video, enjoy !

 

 

Is that Kit Spackman at 5:21 ?

 

Gibbo.


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#460 Mr_Tilt

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Posted 19 July 2018 - 20:19

Hi Folks,

 

The POP train features in this video, enjoy !

 

 

Is that Kit Spackman at 5:21 ?

 

Gibbo.

 

Not in that version, no. It's Hugh Williams, he who wrote 'APT - A Promise Unfullfilled'. Hugh was working on Tilt Development with me at the time, but he moved to E-Train Support after we'd got POP-Train running well.

 

There is a version of 'E for Experimental' with me doing the same thing as Hugh, but it's shot from the other side of the train so it's not all that clear, and there's a small part of that version at 5:44, where you can just see my Size 11s.  :D

 

But that is me at 11:21 driving the crane around the Tilt Rig, but I can't remember why I'm wearing a headset....

 

And right at the end, at 18:20, that's Ken Austin driving the train, he who ended up with a raging headache after the London-Leicester 1 hour run.

 

[Later] Cor, that's very nostalgic seeing that through again. I could name most of the people in it too, and it was 45 years ago!  :o


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Posted 19 July 2018 - 20:57

Terrific film. Interesting to hear where various bits were built. Thanks for sharing.

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Posted 08 September 2018 - 23:09

Just starting to look at construction of my pop train kit and looking into colours question for Kit unless anyone else knows the answer we’re the weights made of concrete

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Posted 09 September 2018 - 05:24

Just starting to look at construction of my pop train kit and looking into colours question for Kit unless anyone else knows the answer we’re the weights made of concrete

 

No, the ballast weights were lumps of cast steel, and VERY heavy. We had to load them with a crane down through the hinged roof sections. And they were painted light grey, the same grey as the main tubular structure was.

 

Please don't ask me what exact shade of grey, I think it was just what was handy in the paint store! 


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#464 Wolf27

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Posted 09 September 2018 - 05:25

Believe they were steel. But Kit will know for certain.

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Posted 09 September 2018 - 09:04

Thanks kit in this photo they look like concrete
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It goes to show how difficult it is when working from old photos, coming to the conclusion I may paint all the superstructure a similar light great colour and the floor a very dark grey and use a mid greybfor the doors.

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Posted 09 September 2018 - 21:11

Thanks kit in this photo they look like concrete
http://www.rmweb.co....-6#entry2474333
It goes to show how difficult it is when working from old photos, coming to the conclusion I may paint all the superstructure a similar light great colour and the floor a very dark grey and use a mid greybfor the doors.

 

That's because by then they were very RUSTY steel, and pretty rough cast originally as well.  :D

 

The colours sound about right, the doors were changed at least twice, see the notes on the drawings that came with the kit, and the floor area got dirty VERY quickly, what with brake dust, oil leaks and general much etc. There were timber floor planks along the centre line, down between the H section girders, and they were just wood colour, no paint at all. I've installed the planks on my kit, but as they're still styrene they're white for now. 



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Posted 12 September 2018 - 15:49

Hi All,

A bit off topic, but is anyone going to the MERG meet in Harrogate this Saturday, myself and Mr Tilt will be there.

 

Regards

 

Paul


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Posted 14 September 2018 - 10:34

Hi All,
A bit off topic, but is anyone going to the MERG meet in Harrogate this Saturday, myself and Mr Tilt will be there.
 
Regards
 
Paul


Shold be a good day. Talking about APT-E both prototype and model as well as POP train model and other exciting stuff. Details here https://www.merg.org...e&do=export_pdf

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Posted 14 September 2018 - 10:45

Shold be a good day. Talking about APT-E both prototype and model as well as POP train model and other exciting stuff. Details here https://www.merg.org...e&do=export_pdf

 

And NON-serious for sure. I count it a failure if the audience haven't laughed their socks of more than once during the talk. :D

 

And as the middle sector, the bit how about Paul and I helped Rapido get the APT-E model so good, will be the first time we've ever done it, it could get a tad disjointed at times. I finished doing the PowerPoint presentation for that at about 2 am y'day morning!  :o



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Posted 16 September 2018 - 21:22

And a good time was had at Harrogate by one and all.  :D

 

I may take a day or two to recover my voice though, talking all day about APT can get a bit wearing on the vocal chords. Some pics of the event below.

 

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My E-Train with much of its innards exposed to view

 

 

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What to do at lunchtime? Run APT models of course!  :D 

 

 

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The undoubted model stars of the event, Paul's POP-trains in three scales, N gauge at the front, 00 gauge in the middle and the HUGE G gauge model at the back. That's known as 'Big POP' now of course. The small white moulding right at the front is an ABS print of HSFV1. All of these were 3D printed by Paul at home, and amazing achievement. 


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Posted 16 September 2018 - 21:25

I am sure a good day had - looking forward to the small - or far away version in N gauge. 

 

Robert 


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Posted 20 September 2018 - 16:26

It looks awesome, great job on it.
If I was to scale this for N, how much should I shrink it by?

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Posted 20 September 2018 - 20:42

It looks awesome, great job on it.
If I was to scale this for N, how much should I shrink it by?

 

Paul's done it in N already and that version will most likely be available as a kit in the near future too. It's the smallest one of the three versions in the pic. 


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