Wigan Wallgate OO Gauge Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 So guys, what wagons are on your wishlist that haven't currently been produced? They can be from any era. So post which wagons you'd like to see produced below: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Alder Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 LMS stock is the most obvious steam era omission. They were the largest users of wagons and went everywhere but are to all modern intents unavailable RTR. Scope for at least four very different van variants alone, for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 A 24.5t HUO please. Thank you Santa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 19th century GWR wagons of all common types that would still have been running in 1905. Plus some non GWR ones that would have appeared on the GWR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted September 18, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2016 Some decent LMS vans. A proper LMS Cattle Wagon. A selection of Iron Ore hoppers. When I used to see them come through Snow Hill there would be at least six different varieties in a rake of about 24. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Good thread, thanks! Top of my list would be the 102t bogie scrap wagons JXA/POA for Sheerness Steel originally (3100 series), in the early 1980's, but many still in use today, across the country. Second would be a Cartic4, double-deck, 4 wagons permanently articulated car carrying set. (The InterCity models kit version seems to be no longer available). Failing that, a 2 car Autic (although Electrotren already do a passable continental version but in HO). Third, a 102t bogie tanker for CO2 (before the current modern TEA's) in red/white British Oxygen livery, with Schlieren bogies (also suitable for the JXA and petrol/oil bogie tankers). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungrange Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 In past polls, the wagon that I would always vote for was a 'Salmon', but with Flangeway hopefully bringing this wagon to the market later this year or early next, I'm less interested in wishlists. I'd love a selection of on-track plant from the early 21st century and something like a Kirow crane would be great, but I'd have thought these would be highly unlikely to be commercially viable because they are limited interest and those who would like one will only purchase one. Apart from that, I'll just wait to see what hits the market and make a decision as to whether or not I'm in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted September 18, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2016 Hello everyone As the OP is writing from New Zealand, he may not be aware of the annual Wishlist Poll (for all sorts of models and supported by MREmag and RMweb) which will be running next month. All the vehicles noted above are listed. We may not have many very early GWR but we certainly go back to pre-1900 with some. Brian Macdermott (on behalf of The Poll Team) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 The British steel PTA , they would be suitable for ore trains Redcar to Consett, Hunterston to Ravenscraig and best of all Port Talbot to llanwen, various liveries then there are the Yeoman and ARC stone versions , moving on to the VTG grey ones , so one wagon, loads of variations. something for the new class 59 to pull! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Top of my list would be the 102t bogie scrap wagons JXA/POA for Sheerness Steel originally (3100 series), in the early 1980's, but many still in use today, across the country. Think the JXA would be a good choice, spans many years various liveries , may see it one day! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 As per the Oxford Wishlist thread, a 46t GLW BRT Grain covered hopper to modern standards (Whisky Blues). Suitable for 60's to 90's, colourful PO liveries from Haig to Grainflow, and well travelled. Bachmann one is the old trix/Lilliput one and well past its sell-by date; Lima did a better one but unlikely to be made again by Hornby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Just remembered the PTA were then converted to covered coil wagons so there's another three wagons from the same chassis , BS blue , VTG silver and the green ones https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwiam7umipnPAhWMPxQKHZKBCrkQjhwIBQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fukrailwaypics.smugmug.com%2FUKRailRollingstock%2FJ-%2FJSA-Covered-coil-carriers&psig=AFQjCNHW_2fbhbnLDWbOCz0wYl9H5OjJTA&ust=1474293706470591&cad=rjt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Some decent LMS vans. A proper LMS Cattle Wagon. A selection of Iron Ore hoppers. When I used to see them come through Snow Hill there would be at least six different varieties in a rake of about 24. I will just point out that PDs' most recent release is the D1661 LMS Cattle wagon (PC87). The Bachmann wagon is supposed to be this but is irredeemably short. The scandal is that Bachmann continue to release this travesty to the world. Wouldn't it be nice to have a proper LMS and GWR Palethorpes 6 wheeler. The Hornby versions are pretty dire from the solebar down. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 An accurate GWR AA13 brake van. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bensanchez43310 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 The KUA nuclear flask wagon for the navu, they arent present. Coulsd also do with ecorfrets and 4 car sets of FLA's with 45' inners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Dace ballast wagons, many on the Southern in the 1980s. Converted from Shocvans so some of the work is already done, just needs a body I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 The KUA nuclear flask wagon for the navu, they arent present. Coulsd also do with ecorfrets and 4 car sets of FLA's with 45' inners. Sure the KUA would sell , if only made in a limited run, something unusual will always sell ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Dace ballast wagons, many on the Southern in the 1980s. Converted from Shocvans so some of the work is already done, just needs a body I guess. No, converted from Shochood B, the 12ft wheelbase, 21ft 6in overheadstocks. The first of them on frames 'nicked' from the MDV production line. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/dace Paul Edited for typing rubbish! It was a coil based on the MDV. But there is a really nice drawing of the Shochood B in our 1983 book. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brshockhoodb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 18, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 18, 2016 LMS stock is the most obvious steam era omission. They were the largest users of wagons and went everywhere but are to all modern intents unavailable RTR. Scope for at least four very different van variants alone, for example. Hi Ben I agree there is a lack of LMS wagons. The open with corrugated steel ends for starters, BR also built loads of them. LMS vans, with and without steel ends, plywood and planked. How about a LMS and LNER plate wagon, again built in large numbers for BR. A proper GWR 5 1/2 planked open not a 5 plank lettered GWR. Of course everyone wants a 150 ton Flatrol EAA with cantilever balance weights, the two Warflat and two Flatrol EC runners. I would be quite happy to settle for a Weltrol ENN if there was no Flatrol EAA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted September 18, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2016 Bolster Es conspicuous by their absence! CBA MGR variant also needed .... just the tops would do! Coil Es and Warwells also on the lesser list...and is Dapol's banana van due for an update? Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 The sensible selections such as the LMS common user opens and vans, LMS/LNER/BR plate/twin bolster and bogie bolster D are huge omissions from current RTR. Ever hopeful I tick 'em in every annual 'most wanted' survey. (Bach have the CAD for much of the Bogie Bolster D, why not 'backdate' it from the BDA?) ... I would be quite happy to settle for a Weltrol ENN if there was no Flatrol EAA... Magnificent. Of course circa 60 years ago Triang were selling a decent model of the LNER's dia 113 (and probably covering an equivalent LMS diagram as the LNER and LMS were co-operating on SCV provision) Trestrol C design , a modest 265mm over the buffers. I suspect that still remains the longest single vehicle wagon that has been offered in OO; and were the tooling still usable, probably saleable today. (Triang couldn't be bothered to make an accurate four wheel wagon of any description, but when it came to a 12 wheeler that no layout would be likely to justify, pull out all the stops boys, let's make it a scale model!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted September 18, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2016 I will just point out that PDs' most recent release is the D1661 LMS Cattle wagon (PC87). The Bachmann wagon is supposed to be this but is irredeemably short. The scandal is that Bachmann continue to release this travesty to the world. The PD version is on my list for replenishing the kit and cut'n'shut stash if nobody announces an RTR version before the unstarted queue gets below 10. Given my previous record a re-tooled version will be announced next year, My previous production has included the SR BY, CCT and PMV, Pillbox Brake, PO RectangularTank Wagon, LMS Coke Hoppers, CCT, non-corridor stock and Pipe wagon. Just done some LNER Plates so that must also be due. Wouldn't it be nice to have a proper LMS and GWR Palethorpes 6 wheeler. The Hornby versions are pretty dire from the solebar down. IIRC it's also a bit short. As I'm modelling based on the South Staffs area either the 50' corridor or non-corridor versions is booked for the next vacant bay in the erecting shop. Then I've got to decide how to do a decent chassis for the six wheeler. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboy Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Blackadder scrap wagons. The lack of a RTR model is surprising considering how easy and popular it is to model scrap yards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted September 18, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 18, 2016 GCR brake van to go with the NRM 2-8-0 and Bachmann J11 in GCR livery - can be branded as LNER as well for use post grouping. SECR brake van to go with the various C class versions (full fat and simplified lined green plus WW! grey) - not the Dance Hall Brakes available in kit form from seeral suppliers and are too late for most of these liveries. Can also be SR branded for use with post grouping freights. 1907 Clearing house design opens - any private operator or railway company would do as a basis for subsequent conversions or repaints. Covers earlier builds and were still in use up to WW2. We really could do with some PO wagons based on pre- 1923 underframe designs. The 1923 design seems to be the standard - even if the body design is clearly pre this date. A careful choice could well lead to items that made it to BR days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 The PD version is on my list for replenishing the kit and cut'n'shut stash if nobody announces an RTR version before the unstarted queue gets below 10. Given my previous record a re-tooled version will be announced next year, My previous production has included the SR BY, CCT and PMV, Pillbox Brake, PO RectangularTank Wagon, LMS Coke Hoppers, CCT, non-corridor stock and Pipe wagon. Just done some LNER Plates so that must also be due. IIRC it's also a bit short. As I'm modelling based on the South Staffs area either the 50' corridor or non-corridor versions is booked for the next vacant bay in the erecting shop. Then I've got to decide how to do a decent chassis for the six wheeler. I've got three Cattle wagons as well. I usually have the problem of manufacturers coming out with RTR versions of loco kits that I start. At least I can finish a wagon in a reasonable time. Hornby's 6 wheelers were 4mm short (as were most of their stuff from that period). I've upgraded the LMS and GWR Palethorpes vans as well as the Insulated milk van. I'd like to see some of the other Palethorpes vehicles (didn't Lima do something eons ago?). Hornby's latest CCTs, LMS and LNER, are pretty good I think - the right length at least. I've also some PD examples of the two LMS dias. The Chivers kits of LMS wagons are also worth a look. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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