Rivercider Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 21t minerals, fitted (MDV) or unfitted (MDO), they got all over the system to power stations and local coal depots. If you are modelling South Wales in the 1970s or early 1980s you could need dozens of them, cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 21t minerals, fitted (MDV) or unfitted (MDO), they got all over the system to power stations and local coal depots. If you are modelling South Wales in the 1970s or early 1980s you could need dozens of them, cheers There's a very nice kit available, which practically assembles itself; I've done about thirty of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bensanchez43310 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 There is a 3D printed KUA available. http://www.shapeways.com/search?q=kua&type= Cheers, Mick Much appreciated mick, but as a teen on a budget not that big, it seems highly realistic at the moment, hence the request for an RTR equivalent. ben. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethashenden Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 There's a very nice kit available, which practically assembles itself; I've done about thirty of them. That seems to be the case for most of the things in this thread. Go build kits people! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 19, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2016 That seems to be the case for most of the things in this thread. Go build kits people! Unless the kit is a white metal bogie hopper and a typical train consists of 20-21 of them.......... Even a Hornby 60 would struggle with that lot! HOA hopper anyone? Cheers, Mick, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig1989 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Railhead treatment train Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 That seems to be the case for most of the things in this thread. Go build kits people! I was, but regrettably most specialist kit providers have ceased - Appleby Engineering for my Sheerness Steel wagons, InterCity Models for my Cartic4, and DC Kits are now winding down their kit range - I did ask Charlie if he would produce a JXA but was told it was not practical due to length and side bowing, then we saw the Dapol modern ballast bogie wagons, which I am using for coarse conversions, with no bowing.....I would be very happy with kits, if they did not require a Masters in brass etch engineering. Tried that, been there, £120 wasted. My fault, my lack of skill. So RTR or kit is not the issue - somebody with the finance, skill and risk taking is what is needed for many of these. I do not under-estimate the risk element, and crowd funding is not turning out to be the universal solution. It is a wish-list, not a demand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Alder Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 That seems to be the case for most of the things in this thread. Go build kits people! That is what I have done - in fact I prefer this approach rather than opening boxes, but I fully appreciate that for whatever reason it is not an option for everyone, and most modern freight can be challenging, even for an experienced modeller. The great advantage of modern RTR is the quality of finish without a large input of time, and viewing the average age of modellers, can release that time to furtherance on whatever project they have in mind. As the decades pass it has dawned on me to use my free moments as productively as possible, and if I was starting out or again as a retiree, the only practical way of doing anything significant is to take advantage of the plethora of modern releases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted September 19, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2016 I'm intrigued, don't tease. Which space, this space, hornbys space? Hmmmmmm. I know you cant tell any hints as too who though. Maybe when. My space, I have irons in the fire, but it will be an etched kit, with resin bits. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 That is what I have done - in fact I prefer this approach rather than opening boxes, but I fully appreciate that for whatever reason it is not an option for everyone, and most modern freight can be challenging, even for an experienced modeller. The great advantage of modern RTR is the quality of finish without a large input of time, and viewing the average age of modellers, can release that time to furtherance on whatever project they have in mind. As the decades pass it has dawned on me to use my free moments as productively as possible, and if I was starting out or again as a retiree, the only practical way of doing anything significant is to take advantage of the plethora of modern releases. Quite agree Ben. I too like kits but of the Parkside Dundas variety not so much the specialty sort, although I'd have a go if the opportunity presented (I do like Mousa kits). Having retired a few years ago, the age question does raise its ugly head. In the past I have collected kits and parts for locos that I fancy only to have a RTR version be released. I think, as we get older, it is sensible to go for the RTR, and abandon the kit, rather than spend a ton of time building the kit. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 That seems to be the case for most of the things in this thread. Go build kits people! See post #3. I started scratch building five 24.5 tonne hoppers about four years ago. I haven't touched them for two years now, other projects have started to pass them by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spackz Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 My space, I have irons in the fire, but it will be an etched kit, with resin bits. Mike. Might have to be my first kit built wagon then or 5th or 6th, cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted September 20, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2016 That seems to be the case for most of the things in this thread. Go build kits people! Well I have scratch built a GCR brake - no kits available yet - but I need at least a second. I will probably have to do the same for the SECR brake, and although there are a couple of kits available for early goods wagons, some assistance would be welcome. I will end up kit or scratch building most of my stock and sometimes life is too short to take a moral high ground and say that you have built everything yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
orford Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Anything of an original Great Eastern design, to go with the Hornby J15's. In fact more pre-grouping designs generally, many of which survived into the early-BR period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Something with dumb buffers! RCH 1907 P.O.s! An Iron Mink! And of course, what everyone wants, nay, needs - a Cambrian Railways 10T Boiler Truck! No just me? Ok then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted September 20, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2016 Of course, to fill gaps in wagon models, there's an option to become a modeller and actually build something you need instead of waiting for a box to land in your lap? Mike. (Post to be taken as you wish) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 4mm Grainflow Polybulk bogie covered hopper or the SMD Polybulk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Something with dumb buffers! - Agree RCH 1907 P.O.s! - Too modern! An Iron Mink! - Sort of agree, but I've got enough And of course, what everyone wants, nay, needs - a Cambrian Railways 10T Boiler Truck! No just me? Ok then. - Not me, so probably just you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted September 20, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2016 Of course, to fill gaps in wagon models, there's an option to become a modeller and actually build something you need instead of waiting for a box to land in your lap? Mike. (Post to be taken as you wish) I agree, open wagons, in particular, demand very little in the way of modelling ability or tool kit. There are plenty of kits to choose from, with pre-printed sides and whole-side decals available for numerous PO types so there isn't even much painting required. To paraphrase Henry Ford, the man who never made a coal wagon never made anything. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted September 20, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2016 Another vote for 1907 RCH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 20, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2016 BR lowfit, wooden body, steel body with LNER brake, steel body Morton brake, revised steel body Morton brake, and revised steel body BR clasp brake. BR Steel body Medfit,LMS clasp brake and Morton brake. BR built, SR design 3 and 5 plank dropside opens. BR Palvan and BR Vanwide GWR/BR(WR) shock van, BR (LMR) shock van, BR (ER/NER) shock van, and all 3 designs of Shockpalvan. BR Izal Palvan and Ford Palvan. All suitable for steam, green diesel and banger blue and most general traffic not restricted workings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 20, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2016 Forgot Palbricks Conflat L BR (ER/NER) steel shock open BR single bolster, unfitted and fitted. BR twin bolster wagons, converted from lowfit and fitted bolster wagons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 BR lowfit, wooden body, steel body with LNER brake, steel body Morton brake, revised steel body Morton brake, and revised steel body BR clasp brake. BR Steel body Medfit,LMS clasp brake and Morton brake. BR built, SR design 3 and 5 plank dropside opens. BR Palvan and BR Vanwide GWR/BR(WR) shock van, BR (LMR) shock van, BR (ER/NER) shock van, and all 3 designs of Shockpalvan. BR Izal Palvan and Ford Palvan. All suitable for steam, green diesel and banger blue and most general traffic not restricted workings. Don't want much then Clive ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 BR lowfit, steel body with LNER brake, steel body Morton brake, revised steel body Morton brake, and revised steel body BR clasp brake. BR Vanwide No. 1: A lovely kit from Red Panda, so easy to put together. Comes with BR clasp brake, swap the chassis with a Parkside vent van to get the Morton brake and add clasp to the vent van. Easy to change to the other style of body, LNER brake probably available from Parkside. No. 2: Another lovely kit, this time from Parkside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 21, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 21, 2016 No. 1: A lovely kit from Red Panda, so easy to put together. Comes with BR clasp brake, swap the chassis with a Parkside vent van to get the Morton brake and add clasp to the vent van. Easy to change to the other style of body, LNER brake probably available from Parkside. No. 2: Another lovely kit, this time from Parkside. True they are available as kits and I have built examples of them, this is a wish list for RTR we do not have. All that I have listed can be built by modifying kits or scratch building where kits are not manufactured. This thread would have been stopped very early on if the second post was, "Who needs a RTR wish list, be a real modeller and scratchbuild wagons they are easy." I am so glad Bachmann have made some anchor mounted tank wagons, I don't have to build any more myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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