RMweb Gold Popular Post Hattons Dave Posted October 14, 2016 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) Hi all, It's been tough to resist temptation to announce this project (and the Beilhacks) early on here, but we're now at the stage at which we can confirm the following project is in production. 50 Ton bogie well 'Warwell' wagon in OO and O gauges All the information on both models is available at www.hattons.co.uk/warwell however the basics are Tooling covering both 'as built' and refurbished variations, as well as BR modifications for steel and rail carrying (BR mods are OO gauge only). Heavy Diecast bodyshell, separately fitted details and specific decoration with lots of liveries covered. Release in Q4 2017 for OO shortly followed by O gauge. Pricing at £33 - 37 for OO, £85 for O. Let us know what you think! Cheers,Dave www.hattons.co.uk/warwell Edited September 22, 2017 by Hatton's Dave 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) Very nice. Quite a choice too. How do I avoid buying 15 of these? Edited October 14, 2016 by JSpencer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted October 14, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2016 That's another item on this year's wishlist gone. Brian won't be able keep up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestburyJack Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) Hi Dave, Excellent, I shall certainly be getting some of these. Are you able to put what years each version is suitable for please? Thank you. Edited October 14, 2016 by PrestburyJack 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted October 14, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2016 Hi Dave, Excellent, I shall certainly be getting some of these. Are you able to put what years each version is suitable for please? Thank you. Hi PrestburyJack, The eras are shown on each product page, but a more in depth summary is below. Cheers, Dave 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted October 14, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) Nice, although expensive in OO compared to forthcoming Oxford car carrier. Not an expert , so what would Warwells carry........tanks? Edited October 14, 2016 by Legend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Nice, although expensive in OO compared to forthcoming Oxford car carrier. Not an expert , so what would Warwells carry........tanks? I think they carry any wheeled or tracked vehicles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I'm down for an O gauge BR grey one 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains&armour Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Great. I'll buy a cartload of these in WW2 condition. But how about ramp wagons? (specially designed wagons to allow mobile loading of tanks onto warwell wagons) Except for some loading docks that could handle tracked vehicles, these were always needed for loading-unloading warwells (or warflats for that matter), certainly during WW2. A rake of warwells would have had two of those, one in front and one at the rear. Please... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDBLUE17 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Hi Dave, Excellent choice of wagon, will add some variety to those MOD trains. The 2000's versions are great to see and I just might have to add a 90's with for a different layout. Prices look ok to me given this is a brand new tooled model. Thanks Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovex Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Very nice. Quite a choice too. How do I avoid buying 15 of these? Quite easily at £33 each 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Great. I'll buy a cartload of these in WW2 condition. But how about ramp wagons? (specially designed wagons to allow mobile loading of tanks onto warwell wagons) Except for some loading docks that could handle tracked vehicles, these were always needed for loading-unloading warwells (or warflats for that matter), certainly during WW2. A rake of warwells would have had two of those, one in front and one at the rear. Please... You could unload Warwells without ramp wagons or fixed ranps; build up a sleeper ramp on one side, and turn the tank using its tracks once it's on the wagon. Quite impressive to watch; it's the way tracked excavators were unloaded from Flatrols, and are still unloaded from Network Rail plant carriers. You'd still have to lower the jacks to stabilise the wagon, as there'd be quite a big turning moment. Most UK stations had end-loading docks though, albeit intended to handle something a bit lighter on its feet than a tank; these'd be all right for one-off movements, though they'd need rebuilding afterwards. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivegreen Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Very nice. Quite a choice too. How do I avoid buying 15 of these? Easy: buy a couple of hundred quids' worth of euros at today's exchange rate, then convert them back to sterling once the pound has recovered. That way you'll lose so much that you won't be able to afford any at all. I was joking, be assured….. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains&armour Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 You could unload Warwells without ramp wagons or fixed ranps; build up a sleeper ramp on one side, and turn the tank using its tracks once it's on the wagon. Quite impressive to watch; it's the way tracked excavators were unloaded from Flatrols, and are still unloaded from Network Rail plant carriers. You'd still have to lower the jacks to stabilise the wagon, as there'd be quite a big turning moment. Most UK stations had end-loading docks though, albeit intended to handle something a bit lighter on its feet than a tank; these'd be all right for one-off movements, though they'd need rebuilding afterwards. Exactly... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium M.I.B Posted October 14, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 14, 2016 You could unload Warwells without ramp wagons or fixed ranps; build up a sleeper ramp on one side, and turn the tank using its tracks once it's on the wagon. Quite impressive to watch; it's the way tracked excavators were unloaded from Flatrols, and are still unloaded from Network Rail plant carriers. You'd still have to lower the jacks to stabilise the wagon, as there'd be quite a big turning moment. Most UK stations had end-loading docks though, albeit intended to handle something a bit lighter on its feet than a tank; these'd be all right for one-off movements, though they'd need rebuilding afterwards. Most A vehicles would come off straight an do no damage at low speed, Most have a low ground pressure footprint. It's when they have to pivot on their tracks to turn that they destroy things. I have done straight armour unloads onto even soft sand berms with no destruction. A neutral turn is a different kettle of fish, even on padded track. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains&armour Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) Once , during an exercise, a college of mine ordered a platoon of Pruttels (Dutch nickname for the Cheetah PRLT AA tank ) to turn around because they were on the wrong road which lead through the center of a village. They complied with commendable efficiency and immediately preformed a neutral turn. It was a cobbled road..... The villagers were far from happy with his timely intervention... Edited October 14, 2016 by Trains&armour Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 14, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2016 Very nice. Quite a choice too. How do I avoid buying 15 of these? You look at the price? Actually I don't think the price is unreasonable but if you want a lot of them it's going to add up to a big amount - will Hattons do a bulk buy discount I wonder? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sidecar Racer Posted October 14, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 14, 2016 Once , during an exercise, a college of mine ordered a platoon of Pruttels (Dutch nickname for the Cheetah PRLT AA tank ) to turn around because they were on the wrong road which lead through the center of a village. They complied with commendable efficiency and immediately preformed a neutral turn. It was a cobbled road..... The villagers were far from happy with his timely intervention... So easily done . 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium it's-er Posted October 14, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 14, 2016 Wow, that is impressive! (Sidecar Racer's video). Without seeing the footage, I couldn't imagine so much damage being done so quickly! John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
exet1095 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Most A vehicles would come off straight an do no damage at low speed, Most have a low ground pressure footprint. It's when they have to pivot on their tracks to turn that they destroy things. I have done straight armour unloads onto even soft sand berms with no destruction. A neutral turn is a different kettle of fish, even on padded track.[/quote I agree. Amazing what a track spud can pick up and throw though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) So easily done . Saves on costly and lengthy digging operations for road repairs i guess... These could well be of use combined with the forthcoming Bachmann warflats. Edited October 14, 2016 by Kelly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
County of Yorkshire Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 A welcome announcement, even if they are rather quite expensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) A welcome announcement, even if they are rather quite expensive. 00 pricing seems consistent for a large bogie wagon in a commissioned environment - particularly at current exchange rates. I can't speak to the 0 pricing. Edited October 14, 2016 by Ozexpatriate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted October 14, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2016 Excellent news I'll have a couple for the 60's and same for the 2000 versions. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Excellent announcement Hattons and that's another wagon ticked off the Wishlist for this year too!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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