bazjones1711 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) I intend to build at some point a slab loading bay based on the SMACC slab plant at Sheffield , it will have only one line, be about 4ft 6in long and about 14/18 in wide. It will be the inside of the building only with a overhead crane to load the slabs , using a slab tongs. locos will be tinsley class 08 and Judith edge 0-4-0 sentinel, wagons are; BBA no ends 6 cradles BBA ends , high stanchions BMA BDA SPA BVA BSA ex BBA IGA cargowaggon flats Handbuilt internal user slab wagons to add interest. Here's a link to the type of thing I'd like to do https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.centrocranes.com%2FProxyVFS.axd%3Fsnode%3D14433%26stream%3D&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.centrocranes.com%2Fen%2F14432&docid=LSjVqvj1kjGTRM&tbnid=9GDdatvy7Soe0M%3A&w=1907&h=1430&client=tablet-android-google&bih=600&biw=960&ved=0ahUKEwiPiJKwjIvQAhVILcAKHevRALQQMwgfKAQwBA&iact=mrc&uact=8 Edited November 2, 2016 by bazjones1711 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) As we already have the locos and wagons for use on the Avesta Sheffield layout and proposed Great Coates layout , the cost of building this slab layout should be relatively low , 3 - 5 pieces of track Inc fiddle yard, load of plastruct girders, corrugated card for cladding, now like all things I need TIME ! Edited November 3, 2016 by bazjones1711 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted November 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 2, 2016 Hi Baz, Sounds an interesting project. I was never a fan of these inside a building layouts until I saw the Gauge 1 - Worcester Road layout, which was a similar principal, but just the inside of an engine shed in the hydraulic era - completely changed my view! Your plan sounds good, something a bit different and interesting. Are you going for OO gauge? Dare I ask if your being really adventurous and looking to get the crane working Good luck, i'll be following! Rich 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 It will be 00 , and yes I will have a working crane , as usual all will be handbuilt , our Avesta Sheffield still needs it crane to unload coil ( will be fully working), again this is only two lines http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/1876/entry-16566-avesta-sheffield/ No time scale yet , but will start to get the plastruct girders this weekend, got the boards , track - which will be inlayed with card from work ,got 4 tinsley class 08 anyway, the BVA wagons I've got 6 sets of bogies and buffers from S Kits just need to have the side frames laser cut , found some drawings online for them and scaled them up , will handbuild some internal users similar to this one http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/1876/entry-16569-internal-slab-wagon/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted November 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2016 Sounds great. I like your Avesta layout ... totally missed that previously, but that is probably because I don't get on with the blogs system! Real feeling of Sheffield and industry. Cheers Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 These are the links for the wagons to be used for slab traffic BSA https://wrightys.smugmug.com/Wagons/BSA-Bogie-Steel-Slab-Carrier/i-NpmfGX8 BBA 6 cradles http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/h26567262 BBA tall stanchions http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/ha310fa5 BVA http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/bva BMA http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brboplateair/h8e4b35a IGA http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/cargowaggonflat SPA wagons Pool 4277 BSC SMACC - BSC Port Talbot stainless slab. 460354,368,384,398,420,425,435,458,471,476,499,521,569,573,583,609,616,623,648,669 460680,686,689,782,786,802,803,845,867,871,886,921,930,958,974,998,1002,1018,1036,1049. total 40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 The IGA cargowaggon flats were used for trials in 1994/95 , but only ran a few times. BBA with 6 cradles will use the second release of Colin Craig etched cradles, BMA Cambrian kits , BBA Cambrian kits , SPA FTG models, IGA Heljan , BDA Bachmann, BSA Cambrian side frames new floor and bolsters, BVA handbuilt bodies with S Kits bogies and buffers . There was an excellent article in Rail Express( No 102 November 2004) covering the steel traffic from Sheffield, in the article there is reference to the loading bay only allows four wagons at a time , so I will prob limit the model to three ?!... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 Pic of my wagon labels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Smeeton Posted November 3, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2016 Any Use? Apppleby Frodingham (Scunthorpe) August 2016. Regards Ian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) Thanks for the picture,got me thinking I may need to got a large forklift, kibri / Walthers do one, plus ideas for internal user slab wagons. https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hobbylinc.com%2Fgr%2Fkib%2Fkib11751.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hobbylinc.com%2Fkibri-intermodal-equipment-kalmar-forklift-type-crane-kit-ho-scale-model-vehicle-11751&docid=155YoSlzFmixJM&tbnid=2jHJXFFYrLbvgM%3A&vet=1&w=335&h=300&client=tablet-android-google&bih=600&biw=960&ved=0ahUKEwistYPoxY3QAhUnJMAKHQQhCeMQMwgfKAQwBA&iact=mrc&uact=8 Regards baz Edited November 3, 2016 by bazjones1711 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) Tried copying link to video but just won't have it! So if you search Kibri Kalmar there's a video of HO radio controlled forklift ! I want one ! Edited November 3, 2016 by bazjones1711 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 http://www.mikro87.de/index.php?page=486430817&f=1&i=403144466&s=486430817 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturol Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 http://www.mikro87.de/index.php?page=486430817&f=1&i=403144466&s=486430817 You have got to be having a laugh. All that in HO. And all I'm after is a working gantry crane. Awesome . Best you get saving. Paul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Any Use? Apppleby Frodingham (Scunthorpe) August 2016. Slab Wagons.jpg Regards Ian These were built for Ingot Moulds but later converted for hot slabs! Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 our Avesta Sheffield still needs it crane to unload coil ( will be fully working), This might be of interest, it's the stockyard crane at BSC Shepcote Lane, the plant which I believe later became Avesta, Sheffield. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 Could also do the unique BUA 910000 with its steel cover for transporting hot slab from Sheffield to Lackenby , otherwise known as the hot coffin! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 You have got to be having a laugh. All that in HO. And all I'm after is a working gantry crane. Awesome . Best you get saving. Paul. Just got to have one ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) This might be of interest, it's the stockyard crane at BSC Shepcote Lane, the plant which I believe later became Avesta, Sheffield. IMG_2918.JPG . Thank you nice pic, it's hard to find shots of this place, the layout is in storage for now , hopefully get back to it soon. Have loads of wagons for coil , will list them sometimeRegards baz Edited November 3, 2016 by bazjones1711 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedders Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 proposed Great Coates layout Interesting, tell me more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/1822/entry-16176-great-coates-sidings-no-1/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 The Great Coates layout is on hold at the moment , started to build the boards at our club , but then had to move out , hoping to get other premises soon , then will carry on, I have most of the stock now, I'll model it in its grassy overgrown state, once I make a start shouldn't take too long, even if it's only the scenic section for now with no fiddle yards. The steel wagons remain virtually the same as the above post , except I'll do 5 BXA ex BAA, always looking for other traffic, wagons etc... All the steel wagons can be used on Great Coates, Avesta Sheffield and the proposed slab bay project Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted November 5, 2016 Author Share Posted November 5, 2016 And so it begins, bought load of plastruct girders today, it's only plastic! but set me back best part of £50!add to that couple of lengths of track, geared motors from kids toy crane £1at boot sale,baseboards will be wood from work, got two packs of corrugated card sheet as boot sale for £1,lights inside Poundland Xmas lights, the concrete base will be layers of thin card from work with various grey/white emulsion paint sponged on randomly. Will have two/three working shutter doors these will be operated with old CD drives from computers ,internal slab wagons handbuilt from Plastruct with HO bogies reclaimed from some American stock from toy fair (think I paid £8 for four)just need to re gauge them This lot will be the support uprights and girders for the crane to run along, I'll look into placing a threaded bar between two of the I beams with a geared motor on the end,rest of the operating system , well I'll make it up as I go along! So the layout should not cost more than £100 or so , buying all the plastruct sounds alot but put into context the whole project is about the same as buying one sound chip or a Bachmann loco ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted November 5, 2016 Author Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) this was my first inspiration for the proposed layout Edited November 5, 2016 by bazjones1711 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturol Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 No holding you back. Is there enough styrene for TWO gantries.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted November 5, 2016 Author Share Posted November 5, 2016 You've inspired me to build , as not done much modelling lately , could be enough for two ? As there's no points the basic layout shouldn't take long , just the crane and slab tongs will take the time. The other possibility is to use an electro magnet to pick the slab up. Hope wcyrail gone OK , seen some pics on tinternet looks great , probably star of the show. Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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