robmcg Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) Always providing that Hornby do not repeat the blunder it made with the tender of Bulleid 34050,the replacement for which is yet to appear. That does seem odd, but delivery of anything RTR appears to be haphazard. To wit, I saw a Hornby new tooling R3682 46225 Blue BR 'Duchess of Gloucester' for sale yesterday and bought it on line, yet to have purchase confirmed, it will make a pleasing pic with my crimson/cream portholes set. Should it materialise. Maybe it was an advertising error, in which case I might shift the payment to a LBSCR H1 or some other desirable object. I do rather like the idea of having nice pictures of 46225 in public before they are on the box-shifter's shelves. Probably a character flaw in me. here is the Hornby pic but I couldn't resist darkening the front wheel rims... maybe the injector pipes too, certainly after it arrives. Hornby are persisting on these recent Duchess models with cheese-cutter flanges on front wheels. (also reduced in my pic) Edited November 17, 2018 by robmcg 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted November 18, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) Almost certainly 46225 was manufactured at the same time as 6241, so it may well be that some of them have made it to retailers in the Southern Hemisphere before they arrive in Kent. Won’t be the first time....or the last. Edited November 18, 2018 by brushman47544 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted November 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 18, 2018 For me,this one is special because the first Duchess I ever saw ( 46240..City Of Coventry ) was in blue....on Llandudno Junction shed in August 1952. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Wrong shade of Blue, Again !. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) Wrong shade of Blue, Again !. That's the printing, not the actual model. Here's another version... derived from Hattons ad which I would think a Hornby publicity pic. pic edited by me, bits added etc. as ever, will remove if it offends Was not 46225 used in trials which demonstrated the Duchess as the most powerful express engine from the Big Four? Edited November 19, 2018 by robmcg 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) OMG... expected to arrive next month. Edited November 24, 2018 by Garethp8873 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted November 24, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2018 OMG... expected to arrive next month. Looks an absolute treat, thanks very much for posting the pic! I was going to go for a red 'un but that blue's very tasty. cheers, Keith 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prtrainman Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Looks an absolute treat, thanks very much for posting the pic! I was going to go for a red 'un but that blue's very tasty. cheers, Keith Would look even better with the front bogie on the track! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Looks an absolute treat, thanks very much for posting the pic! I was going to go for a red 'un but that blue's very tasty. cheers, Keith Have 1 of each. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocp Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Did they have a red one there too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Did they have a red one there too? No just Queen Elizabeth. Amazing job too. Just now need the Coronation Scot train to compliment her Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 OMG... expected to arrive next month. I've already got a Queen Elizabeth from when they did a limited edition 500 run back in the early 2000's, so was a bit peeved when they originally announced this, as the only one they haven't done (in scale length) is Queen Mary but boy does that look good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 (edited) To be honest I'm not sure about the white wheel centres and rims. The blue Coronation is a very desirable train, too... here are two pics on the 'best ever' thread. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/82970-hornbys-best-ever-models/page-106&do=findComment&comment=3376877 and I have three blue 'Coronation' carriages to play with too! edit, speaking of blue Duchesses 46225 R3682 is now in stock at Hornby and Rails... beautiful edit 2; only for sale so far at Hornby and even that is doubtful, it's just that they are in a container 'in port'.... according to one retailer. Edited November 25, 2018 by robmcg 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 A look at some of the latest models and prototypes from Hornby Model Railways, filmed on their Roadshow Stand at the Warley National Model Railway Exhibition 2018. Models featured, included the all new Streamlined Princess Coronation Class 4-6-2, NBR J36 Class 0-6-0's and Lord Nelson Class 4-6-0's. Hope you enjoy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted November 29, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 29, 2018 That's the printing, not the actual model. Here's another version... 46225_Duchess_R3682_portrait30_3abcde_r1200.jpg derived from Hattons ad which I would think a Hornby publicity pic. pic edited by me, bits added etc. as ever, will remove if it offends Was not 46225 used in trials which demonstrated the Duchess as the most powerful express engine from the Big Four? Just think how magnificent this would look with a proper cylindrical smokebox Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I agree and have just bought one. I blame Hornby for producing outstanding models.... Haven't received my purchase yet but these superb machines look good in lined LMS black.... here is the Rails 46229. 46229_Duchess_Img_8486ab_r1200.jpg For reasons I cannot put my finger on Hornby make black plastic models look outstanding, moreso I would suggest than other 00 RTR makers, it might be the specification of the plastic, or the fine detail, but they certainly are masters of the craft. Edit, here below a couple of my edited versions.... will remove if they offend. 46229_Duchess_Hamilton_portrait15_with_crew_2abc_r1200.jpg 46229_duchess_portrait50_1948_2abcd_r1200.jpg cheers, and that fireman might have to shift a few tons of coal before the day is over! The LMS lined black does look magnificent. Perhaps I could pick the collective brains of you Duchess class specialists please. I'd like a Hornby one in lined black, but without the turned down smokebox top, arising from the streamlining. Am I right that the only China built model to fit this bill is the one of "Duchess of Sutherland", nominally in the condition in which it ran a year or two back in preservation? Am I also right that this model has an error in the lining, the running plate line continuing below the cab when it should not, and presumably this isn't too difficult to correct? Many thanks, John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted November 29, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 29, 2018 The LMS lined black does look magnificent. Perhaps I could pick the collective brains of you Duchess class specialists please. I'd like a Hornby one in lined black, but without the turned down smokebox top, arising from the streamlining. Am I right that the only China built model to fit this bill is the one of "Duchess of Sutherland", nominally in the condition in which it ran a year or two back in preservation? Am I also right that this model has an error in the lining, the running plate line continuing below the cab when it should not, and presumably this isn't too difficult to correct? Many thanks, John. You are right so far. The LMS black 6233 model is also from the older tooling so not to the standard of the most recent model. In my opinion the older tooled model isn't bad (I have several) but doesnt compare to the latest version (I have 2). Somehow the older model doesnt capture the 'presence' in the same way as the new one. But it is available considerably cheaper and in many more liveries at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocp Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 You are right so far. The LMS black 6233 model is also from the older tooling so not to the standard of the most recent model. In my opinion the older tooled model isn't bad (I have several) but doesnt compare to the latest version (I have 2). Somehow the older model doesnt capture the 'presence' in the same way as the new one. But it is available considerably cheaper and in many more liveries at the moment. I think a lot of that has got to do with the front end, the inside cylinder cover is too small and the area around the bogie is pretty sparse. A Comet replacement bogie and detailing around the bogie helps that quite a bit. As does replacement deflectors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) Hornby's Engine Shed has shown LMS blue 6221 'Queen Elizabeth' and she looks great, and is imminent in the shops. Hornby Magazine photos, thank you Hornby Magazine. When I say imminent I am guessing, since some retailers expect it shortly. edited to correct acknowledgements for photos Edited December 1, 2018 by robmcg 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) January delivery by all accounts Rob. It does look nice though ! Edited November 30, 2018 by Black 5 Bear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Hornby's Engine Shed has shown LMS blue 6221 'Queen Elizabeth' and she looks great, and is imminent in the shops. 6221_coronation_duchess_es-streamlined-princess-coronation-1.jpg 6221_cORONATION_dUCHESS_es-streamlined-princess-coronation-featured.jpg Hornby photos, thank you Hornby. When I say imminent I am guessing, since some retailers expect it shortly. Photos are from Hornby Magazine not Hornby Hobbies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Photos are from Hornby Magazine not Hornby Hobbies. Thanks I have edited and corrected the post. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymzHatstand Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) I was umming and ah-ing about a blue bathtub, but after seeing the sample at Warley, I think its pretty likely that one will arrive in my collection, to be renamed as Hamilton, if the area around the cylinders is correct for that. I'm hoping it's just a pre-production issue, but there handrails on the front look a little wonky, hopefully this is the because they've used the NRM example to base their model on! Very much looking forward to its arrival, and it might even encourage me to build some Coronation coaches to go with it! Cheers J (Edited to add photo) Edited December 2, 2018 by JaymzHatstand 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted December 2, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 2, 2018 I was umming and ah-ing about a blue bathtub, but after seeing the sample at Warley, I think its pretty likely that one will arrive in my collection, to be renamed as Hamilton, if the area around the cylinders is correct for that. I'm hoping it's just a pre-production issue, but there handrails on the front look a little wonky, hopefully this is the because they've used the NRM example to base their model on! IMAG5434~2.jpg Very much looking forward to its arrival, and it might even encourage me to build some Coronation coaches to go with it! Cheers J (Edited to add photo) Not based on 6229 as she has been missing the upper handles since she was restreamlined Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) Is anyone prepared to guess whether Hornby will offer weathered versions of the Princess Coronations, especially the non-air-smoothed versions, as in Duchess of Montrose and City of Nottingham? And the wartime black 6243 'City of Lancaster' in bathtub guise... or are these destined to become forgotten 'old models'? If I may be permitted, they did look grand. edited picture, will remove if asked. edit; I notice that these weathered Duchesses and even the blue Princess were made in 2005 maybe there was something in the water back then... Edited December 2, 2018 by robmcg 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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