Garethp8873 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 Sign me up for the LMS and LNER examples all the way...!! Pre-ordering now 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Oh no... my Winkle will no longer be as unique I don't know, some suitable weathering and your Winkle will be like nobody else's. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) Pictures of all of the variations are up on TMC's website now: http://www.themodelcentre.com/all-tmc-limited-editions/?sort=alphaasc Nice and eagerly awaited.However. Apologies, off topic! Those BR diagram horseboxes seemed to have slipped under my radar. Browsing on the 'phone as I do (making site searches a lucky dip), would some kindly fellow link me to a relevant thread please? I note they aren't in Retailer Commissions...then again, nor are these Plate bolster thingies. C6T. Edited December 14, 2016 by Classsix T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted December 14, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) Am I reading it wrong? It looks like the only way to get a Double Bolster in BR grey is to order a pair. (38-826Z) John Edited December 14, 2016 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) TMC have a huge range of possibilities with these wagons. It looks like B920055 (38-825) is based on a Dave Larkin photo of Aug 1968, which has the full post 1964ish boxed writing style. All wagons at this time were supposed to be in freight stock red, irrespective of brake type. TMC are probably struggling to find many bolster photographs (they are using some I've acquired). These wagons seem to have gone quite early on - I can remember being excited by seeing a train of them outside Waterloo in the mid to later 1960s IIRC, about the only ones I saw - and this is the only one DL appears to have recorded in original condition. Many where, of course rebuilt as single bolsters or as Plates and some as Trestle EA. [As a total aside this early demise is an early reason for wondering why BR then went on to have an airbraked version the SAB. Paul Bartlett Edited December 14, 2016 by hmrspaul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 I'm happy to see that TMC have used the LMS and LNER versions that are illustrated in LMS Wagons Vol.1 and LNER Wagons Volume 4B. These wagons were good timing as well as I've been looking for more specialised vehicles and Double Bolsters were one of the types I was looking for...!! Here's hoping to eventually see the Plate wagon make an appearence in LNER and LMS in the future as well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
How about a Dictator Loco Class? Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) When they come out you can spec them with trestles to model the retrofitted trestle versions. What can prototypically be done will be properly researched before they're on sale. And you can get prototypical loads, eg steel sheets in various stages of corrosion or iron ingots in various shapes and sizes potentially too I think. Sorry if this has already been said or if it's already advertised on the TMC website. I think it's fresh info though?!? Picture shows a similar kit wagon. Rob Edited March 9, 2017 by How about a Dictator Loco Class? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) I await a response with interest. Edit: That was an interesting edit. Edited March 9, 2017 by Porcy Mane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Atilla Posted March 9, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2017 When they come out you can spec them with trestles to model the retrofitted trestle versions. What can prototypically be done will be properly researched before they're on sale. And you can get prototypical loads, eg steel sheets in various stages of corrosion or iron ingots in various shapes and sizes potentially too I think. Sorry if this has already been said or if it's already advertised on the TMC website. I think it's fresh info though?!? Picture shows a similar kit wagon. Rob Where did you source the load from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
How about a Dictator Loco Class? Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) Where did you source the load from?Hi Atilla. The loads are made in house at TMC. If you inquire they'll no doubt supply them separately too. They look slightly better still in real life than in the picture. With a textured finish, a bias to metalic on one side and a bias to rusty on the other side. So you choose which way around they go.Some loads had chalk markings/writing on. That would be an interesting addition to the steel plates maybe! Rob Edited March 10, 2017 by How about a Dictator Loco Class? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Hi Atilla. The loads are made in house at TMC. If you inquire they'll no doubt supply them separately too. They look slightly better still in real life than in the picture. With a textured finish, a bias to metalic on one side and a bias to rusty on the other side. So you choose which way around they go. Some loads had chalk markings/writing on. That would be an interesting addition to the steel plates maybe! Rob Steel products almost always had 'chalk' (usually white paint) markings on them, connected with identifying the batch for quality-control purposes. Smaller bars (such as 4" Engineer's Bar) would also often have coloured paint on the ends to further aid identification. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 As explained and Illustrated at 4 mins 20 sec in this film. Same handwriting on this photo by Mr Bartlett? http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brtrestleaa/h1752c209#h1752c209 P 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2017 Talking of trestles, (apologies for the slight sideways shift), but did the LNER trestles, as in the Parkside kit, really have one of the sides missing, and if so, did they last until BR days as such? I can't get to my reference books to check at the mo. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 As explained and Illustrated at 4 mins 20 sec in this film. Same handwriting on this photo by Mr Bartlett? http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brtrestleaa/h1752c209#h1752c209 P Sad to think that's all gone, especially when you see how relatively 'hi-tech' that was for its time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Talking of trestles, (apologies for the slight sideways shift), but did the LNER trestles, as in the Parkside kit, really have one of the sides missing, and if so, did they last until BR days as such? I can't get to my reference books to check at the mo. Mike. I think they may have retained bits of the side to carry wagon details. The BR version of the same design, though, had a full-length fixed side. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brtrestleaa/h35ec64b#h35ec64b Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) but did the LNER trestles, as in the Parkside kit, really have one of the sides missing, and if so, did they last until BR days as such? I can't get to my reference books to check at the mo. The phots I've got seems to confirm that but as Brian W says, bits of the sides were retained to stop the plate sliding off the trestle.. (Is your local reservoir full yet?) Edited March 10, 2017 by Porcy Mane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2017 Any pics anywhere so I can put the relevant bits on? Reservoir went from 3% to 90% in January, we're safe until 2018, and our water bills will be coming down by 35% as water doesn't have to be bought from the de-salination plant. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatley Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 As explained and Illustrated at 4 mins 20 sec in this film. "A beam of light projected onto the plate ensures accurate positioning..." and it's accurately positioning it onto a mark made by two blokes with a bit of chalked string ! Love it ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pint of Adnams Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Nice and eagerly awaited. However. Apologies, off topic! Those BR diagram horseboxes seemed to have slipped under my radar. Browsing on the 'phone as I do (making site searches a lucky dip), would some kindly fellow link me to a relevant thread please? I note they aren't in Retailer Commissions...then again, nor are these Plate bolster thingies. C6T. So Mods, how about adding TMC to Retailer Commissions and shifting this thread to the more appropriate section of RMWeb? Then it can cover models sourced from other manufacturers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 So Mods, how about adding TMC to Retailer Commissions and shifting this thread to the more appropriate section of RMWeb? Then it can cover models sourced from other manufacturers. Please don't do that. This is excellent, a thread for a single subject. When they commission something different it will be better to start a new thread. There are far too many threads which cover lots of different model subjects and get completely confused. With what TMC are planning for these there will be more than enough to keep one thread going on this subject. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pint of Adnams Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Please don't do that. This is excellent, a thread for a single subject. When they commission something different it will be better to start a new thread. There are far too many threads which cover lots of different model subjects and get completely confused. With what TMC are planning for these there will be more than enough to keep one thread going on this subject. Paul But it would still be a single thread, just in the correct place! Then the remarks about the horse boxes etc. could be held in threads of their own, still under the same TMC grouping, thereby reducing the volume of OT posts to wade through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 But it would still be a single thread, just in the correct place! Then the remarks about the horse boxes etc. could be held in threads of their own, still under the same TMC grouping, thereby reducing the volume of OT posts to wade through. I never think about or look at forums. But major companies like Slaters, Cambrian and Parkside don't appear to have their own, unless I am looking in the wrong place - as I say not a place I ever go. Paul Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pint of Adnams Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 I never think about or look at forums. But major companies like Slaters, Cambrian and Parkside don't appear to have their own, unless I am looking in the wrong place - as I say not a place I ever go. Paul Paul But there is a sub-forum titled Retailer Commissions that includes Hattons, Invicta, Kernow, Locomotion Models and Rails of Sheffield, all of whom commission models from one or more of the principal manufacturers. The likes of Cambrian and Parkside, and many others, appear under Smaller Suppliers as they are manufacturers in their own right. No different to your own photographic site, where you classify and sub-classify so that folks know where to look... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 But there is a sub-forum titled Retailer Commissions that includes Hattons, Invicta, Kernow, Locomotion Models and Rails of Sheffield, all of whom commission models from one or more of the principal manufacturers. The likes of Cambrian and Parkside, and many others, appear under Smaller Suppliers as they are manufacturers in their own right. No different to your own photographic site, where you classify and sub-classify so that folks know where to look... I should stop this. The companies I mentioned are lost in one sub forum, they don't have their own sub forum I am surprised by some of the companies that have managed to get their own. I had thought Andy thought there were too many sub forums. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Atilla Posted March 11, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 11, 2017 Hi Atilla. The loads are made in house at TMC. If you inquire they'll no doubt supply them separately too. They look slightly better still in real life than in the picture. With a textured finish, a bias to metalic on one side and a bias to rusty on the other side. So you choose which way around they go. Some loads had chalk markings/writing on. That would be an interesting addition to the steel plates maybe! Rob Many thanks for the information - they look very realistic from the photographs. Plate and bar material from the mill is difficult to represent well in model form Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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