scafellpike Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Brenn, After removing the body 2 screws under the buffferbeam both front and back lift body from chassis. Photo 201 shows blanking plug in place Photo 202 shows blaniking plug removed ( i have already attached the speaker wires) left centre of photo. Photo 203 shows plastic cover which holds speaker wires in place photo 204 shows plastic cover removed (see bright brass coloured tags with holes in the centre photo 205 shows position of speaker on top of chassis under hood end of loco. photo 206 shows wires for speaker inserted and plastic cover partially replaced onto tags photo 207 shows plastic cover fully home photo 208 shows sound chip installed ( this one happens to be an ESU Loksound V4 Hope this helps Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdaley Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Sorry Dave but no photos appeared ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scafellpike Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 Sorry Dave but no photos appeared ? Sorry lets give it another try Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scafellpike Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 Each Photo is 1.x Mb so will not load sorry about that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonzack Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Each Photo is 1.x Mb so will not load sorry about that On a PC, you can use Paint and resize the picture. Take the largest one, reduce by 10% and save, then check the size, keep doing this until you are below the 1Mb limit. Then apply that reduction to the others and you should be able to upload them all. Cheers, Mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scafellpike Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 HI Mark, Many thanks for the info, you learn something new every day thanks to others. I only wish I could remember as much as I learn. Anyhow it haws worked and here are some of the photos. Thanks again Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bescotbeast Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 May I offer some advice, ditch that speaker and get yourself an iphone 6 speaker, its slim and small but with a much better sound range Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 May I offer some advice, ditch that speaker and get yourself an iphone 6 speaker, its slim and small but with a much better sound range Is it compatible with loksound 4 Do you have to put the loco to your ear to hear it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toplink@()1989))(( Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Is it possible to fit a stay alive capacitor to these chips?, I have two fitted in my first two 0-4-0 shunters and they tend to stutter on pointwork. Cheers, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bescotbeast Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Is it compatible with loksound 4 Do you have to put the loco to your ear to hear it? Yes and No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Sounds good to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bescotbeast Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Sounds good to me. To me the sound is a lot crisper, the speaker is cheap (£3.99 of theifbay) and slimline, mine is stuck to the loco with a blob of blutack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenn Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Brenn, After removing the body 2 screws under the buffferbeam both front and back lift body from chassis. Photo 201 shows blanking plug in place Photo 202 shows blaniking plug removed ( i have already attached the speaker wires) left centre of photo. Photo 203 shows plastic cover which holds speaker wires in place photo 204 shows plastic cover removed (see bright brass coloured tags with holes in the centre photo 205 shows position of speaker on top of chassis under hood end of loco. photo 206 shows wires for speaker inserted and plastic cover partially replaced onto tags photo 207 shows plastic cover fully home photo 208 shows sound chip installed ( this one happens to be an ESU Loksound V4 Hope this helps Dave. Thanks Dave, These photos helped me get the chip working and you really went above and beyond for a e-bay seller! Does anybody have any suggestion as to fitting a different speaker that fits the 21 pin chassis for a class 20 (32-035A) i see there is 2 screw slots so i presume these are for locating a speaker. I tried Bromsgrove models to find they have closed down.....any suggestions to where to look on the net? I mite re-blow the chip so advise as to the best sound file would also be helpful. Cheers Brenn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bescotbeast Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Thanks Dave, These photos helped me get the chip working and you really went above and beyond for a e-bay seller! Does anybody have any suggestion as to fitting a different speaker that fits the 21 pin chassis for a class 20 (32-035A) i see there is 2 screw slots so i presume these are for locating a speaker. I tried Bromsgrove models to find they have closed down.....any suggestions to where to look on the net? I mite re-blow the chip so advise as to the best sound file would also be helpful. Cheers Brenn See post's #7 and #10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bescotbeast Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Class 20 with an iphone 6 speaker at 5:58 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Nice work Bescot. You'll have to get something done to stop the graffiti. Do you have to make a sound box for the iphone speaker or is it already self contained? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Thanks Dave, These photos helped me get the chip working and you really went above and beyond for a e-bay seller! Does anybody have any suggestion as to fitting a different speaker that fits the 21 pin chassis for a class 20 (32-035A) i see there is 2 screw slots so i presume these are for locating a speaker. I tried Bromsgrove models to find they have closed down.....any suggestions to where to look on the net? I mite re-blow the chip so advise as to the best sound file would also be helpful. Cheers Brenn For 21 pin class 20's, I've had the cast tank area milled away to take a standard speaker, facing down. Which, I am told, is the best way for the speaker to be directed anyway. Don't know why and I don't know if it is a load of old tosh. Any ideas about the best position and orientation of a speaker? For steam locomotives I suppose the least appropriate position would be the tender, which is where most speakers are fitted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasatcopthorne Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Yes and No https://youtu.be/wHpSyOkzGPI Are you sure thats an iPhone speaker ? Dave. Sorry. Didn't watch to the end. Stupid me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dougjuk Posted December 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2016 I bought some ZImo speakers from Youchoos at Warley, 2 Dumbo pairs in a 3d enclosure and a single in a 3d enclosure. bit more expensive than the iPhone 6 above but they are fantastic. Fitted the pairs to a class 47 and Class 24. The single went in a 25. Going to look to put a single in my class 20's. All sound is from Legobiffoman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted December 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2016 I bought the Paul Chetter project on a V4 from Digitrains at Warley. That comes with a speaker that fits direct to the designed space on the chassis. Excellent crisp clear sound, superb sound project (though the Network Rail radio thingy making its 'ping' doesn't suit my 1960's green period!) and the whole set up was only £87 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bescotbeast Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Nice work Bescot. You'll have to get something done to stop the graffiti. Do you have to make a sound box for the iphone speaker or is it already self contained? The speaker comes as you see it in the second half of the clip http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361710886256?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAF96 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I tried couple of old phone speakers for a small diesel sound fit but the sound was so tinny I binned it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 The speaker comes as you see it in the second half of the clip http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361710886256?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Thanks Bescot. I've just placed an order for the last 5 speakers from the link you provided. If nothing else, they should transform the locos with factory fitted sound as the speakers and housings that the RTR suppliers provide are a bit ropey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bescotbeast Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Thanks Bescot. I've just placed an order for the last 5 speakers from the link you provided. If nothing else, they should transform the locos with factory fitted sound as the speakers and housings that the RTR suppliers provide are a bit ropey. One word of warning, these speakers won't work with the old ESU 3.5 Loksound, down to the impedance of the speaker, they will work with ESU V4 Loksound chips though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I wondered about that. I think speakers for V3.5 area 100 Ohms and for V4 are 4 or 8 Ohms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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