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Model Rail/Rapido Trains GER/LNER 'J70' 0-6-0T 'Project Toby'





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#1 dibber25

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 16:59

The 'J70' project has been given the go-ahead to the next stage, which is the assembly of a research package for the manufacturer and the start of design work. I'm starting this as the place on which I can give updates on the progress of the 'J70' project, and where you'll be able to comment once we have anything to show you (subject to approval by Rapido). 


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Posted 09 January 2017 - 23:42

I suppose a question that should be asked is if there will be the coaches to go with them, there were some on display at the stand at Warley alongside the kitbuilt trams.



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Posted 10 January 2017 - 11:15

I suppose a question that should be asked is if there will be the coaches to go with them, there were some on display at the stand at Warley alongside the kitbuilt trams.

 

The coach displayed at Warley was one which I built from a D&S brass kit. We are still in the very early stages of this project but I have a personal interest in seeing the bogie coach done and will be pushing the case for doing it, although everything will depend on the costs and whether we think we can sell enough to make it viable. (CJL)


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 11:37

The coach displayed at Warley was one which I built from a D&S brass kit. We are still in the very early stages of this project but I have a personal interest in seeing the bogie coach done and will be pushing the case for doing it, although everything will depend on the costs and whether we think we can sell enough to make it viable. (CJL)


The coach was delightful (as was the loco). I'd buy the coach+loco, but the loco on its own would, for me, be just a display item, so I'd be unlikely to buy it.

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Posted 15 January 2017 - 17:55

Chris,

That's absolutely fantastic news! Look forward to seeing the next step come to fruition.

With or without matching coaching stock I'll be committed and on board to support the project.

David

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 19:28

Could anyone please let me have the email address to which we are to send our livery choices?



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Posted 26 January 2017 - 23:58

 

Could anyone please let me have the email address to which we are to send our livery choices?

 

You can send to me:
chris.leigh@bauermedia.co.uk

We're compiling a spreadsheet which will give us an idea of the quantities in each livery. The intention now is to produce one set of tooling for a loco with full outside valve gear and with the etched skirts included so the modeller can fit them if he wishes. Design work is expected to start after Chinese New Year. (CJL)
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Posted 27 January 2017 - 05:56

Excuse my ignorance but what gauge are we talking of?

 

 

 


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Posted 27 January 2017 - 06:31

Excuse my ignorance but what gauge are we talking of?

OO gauge.

Also as Chris has posted the email the livery choices are:

With/ without sideplates?
Sound?
Opening windows and end doors?

Great Eastern Rly
LNER
BR lettering
BR early emblem

GER & BR crest won for me in the end ;)

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 19:41

You could always see if you could commission Danny to produce the coaches as a kit for those that want them.



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Posted 07 February 2017 - 23:06

 

You could always see if you could commission Danny to produce the coaches as a kit for those that want them.

 

Rapido are very keen to do the coach, too. (CJL)
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Posted 08 February 2017 - 04:53

Ooh that would be good, a couple of the locos and a coach :)

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 07:15

I am really exited about this project. Cannot wait to see the results and the first samples. Whatever liveries/options they do I will buy as I only want them for display anyway. :)

 

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 20:38

Rapido Trains has completed the first set of drawings for the 'J70' and these will be featured in Model Rail issue 235 published April 6. 


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Posted 30 March 2017 - 22:23

I do not like the LNER.............do not need a J70.............do not intend to model anythimg East of Hampshire.......ever.................

However,.....................the idea appeals (too much Toby the tram engine methinks)...............I have a soft spot for the Wisbech and Upwell..............and as for a Titfield branch coach..........


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Posted 31 March 2017 - 09:37

If Rapido are keen to do the coach(presumably the bogie one), then why not do the shorter one as well. Much of its design is the same, just fewer windows, so could share the cost. Obviously this would increase the overall cost,but a set with loco and one of each coach, in GER livery would be well received. Why only go only half way, when you could complete the journey.


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Posted 31 March 2017 - 09:59

Obviously this would increase the overall cost,but a set with loco and one of each coach, in GER livery would be well received. Why only go only half way, when you could complete the journey.

The cost is why it's extra risk which with several models being put on hold obviously isn't worth it at present ;)
At least two of the locos I'm interested in and obviously I'd have one of the coaches too.

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 16:02

Rapido Trains has completed the first set of drawings for the 'J70' and these will be featured in Model Rail issue 235 published April 6.


Fantastic news, cannot wait to see/read more about it! :)

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 17:26

The cost is why it's extra risk which with several models being put on hold obviously isn't worth it at present ;)
At least two of the locos I'm interested in and obviously I'd have one of the coaches too.

I think the coach is now unlikely. The set-up cost would make it nearly as expensive as the loco. (CJL)


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Posted 31 March 2017 - 17:33

I think the coach is now unlikely. The set-up cost would make it nearly as expensive as the loco. (CJL)

I can see that, apart from motor and circuit board it would have nearly as many parts!
One of the few models I sold off when I was building big layouts and wish I had kept. So the MR editions will do nicely and no doubt be better painted.

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Posted 01 April 2017 - 05:15

I think the coach is now unlikely. The set-up cost would make it nearly as expensive as the loco. (CJL)


Fair enough and that won't make one iota of difference regarding my support. The coaching stock has a limited lifespan and, importantly for Model Rail, limited range of livery options due to the passenger service being withdrawn so early. Obviously there is the old D&S kit and, if there is a demand, someone will step into the the void and produce another.

I applaud Model Rail for being so proactive and pressing on with the project. As mentioned above, I've no doubt the 'Toby' factor will attract the casual enthusiast as well as the die-hard W&U and GER fans,hopefully ensuring a good market for sales :) Obviousot this is going to be a long-term project but I cannot wait for it to reach fruition!

I'm feeling inspired... just dug out the Peter Paye W&U book for some weekend reading!

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Posted 01 April 2017 - 14:48

I agree with south_tyne, the lack of coach makes no difference to me. I still think this is a fantastic project, and applaud Model Rail for doing it! :)

Alex



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Posted 01 April 2017 - 16:19

Unfortunately for me the coach will make all the difference, otherwise it's just another lovely pre-grouping liveried loco without anything to pull!



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Posted 01 April 2017 - 17:21

Just out of curiosity (or perhaps trying to justify one in my own mind) were there any similar tram engines to be found on other railways or light railways?

Cheers,

David

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Posted 01 April 2017 - 17:22

Unfortunately for me the coach will make all the difference, otherwise it's just another lovely pre-grouping liveried loco without anything to pull!

It can pull wagons too ;)
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