Thames Forth (Waverley) 2017

[fegguk]

With the reopening of the Settle and Carlisle immanent.  I was wondering about recreating the Thames for or Waverley and traveling the route today.  It might make an interesting short film.

 

Obviously, Tweedbank to Carlisle is missing from the route. The Carlisle to London section appear not to be straightforward either. I have had a look ticketing web sites but would welcome any assistance on planning the journeys. In particular the actual route of the trains took, though I suppose this changes over time.

['CHARD]

The last alteration to the route taken by 1S64 occurred when the Melton Mowbray - Nottingham direct line (through Old Dalby), closed to through traffic in November 1968.  

 

 

This next bit was culled from Wikipedia (with some editing):

 

In 1962, the train left London at 09:15. It used what is now mainly a freight route avoiding Leicester (via Kettering, Oakham and Melton Mowbray) and stopped first at Nottingham Midland at 11:13. After calling at Chesterfield it reached Sheffield Midland at 12:18 and Leeds City 13:26—so a journey of 39 miles took over an hour as a result of subsidence-induced speed restrictions. 

Edited January 23, 2017 by 'CHARD

[fegguk]

 

 

In 1962, the train left London at 09:15. It used what is now mainly a freight route avoiding Leicester (via Kettering, Oakham and Melton Mowbray) and stopped first at Nottingham Midland at 11:13. After calling at Chesterfield it reached Sheffield Midland at 12:18 and Leeds City 13:26—so a journey of 39 miles took over an hour as a result of subsidence-induced speed restrictions. 

Is this the route through Corby. iI so there are a couple of through trains per day, which might make things a bit awkward.

['CHARD]

Aye, that part is the via Corby route.

[fegguk]

Any idea how it got from Chesterfield to Melton Mowbray

[Fat Controller]

Any idea how it got from Chesterfield to Melton Mowbray

Erewash Valley, then Nottingham?

[fegguk]

Seems like this is the only option

 

04:56 to Norwich

TimeStation

·         04:56Nottingham

·         05:11Loughborough

·         05:36Melton Mowbray

·         05:49Oakham

·         06:05Stamford

·         06:27Peterborough

·         06:43March

·         07:05Ely

·         07:20Brandon

·         07:29Thetford

·         07:43Attleborough

·         07:50Wymondham

·         08:13Norwich

 

06:00 to London St Pancras Intl

TimeStation

·         06:00Melton Mowbray

·         06:12Oakham

·         06:35Corby

·         06:45Kettering

·         06:54Wellingborough

·         07:09Bedford Station

·         07:24Luton

·         07:48London St Pancras Intl

Edited January 23, 2017 by fegguk

[Leander]

Erewash Valley, then Nottingham?

Route taken southbound was the same as that taken going north. After the reversal at Leeds City the train stopped at Rotherham (Masborough), Sheffield (Midland), Chesterfield, then via the Erewash valley line to Nottingham (Midland) thence non-stop to St Pancras via Melton Mowbray. This was the case in Summer 1960 and Winter 1962/3 according to the public timetables of the period.

[fegguk]

Due to economy measures I only got as far as Sheffield

 

Edited September 4, 2017 by fegguk