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Been searching around but can't see anything definitive.

 

I'm 95% sure that new releases of Farish Peaks (I'm specifically after a 45 or two) were 'coming soon'. A colleague is certain that they were announced as a new tooling.

 

Are we right, or did we dream it; can't find much posted about recent issues of Peaks?

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Been searching around but can't see anything definitive.

 

I'm 95% sure that new releases of Farish Peaks (I'm specifically after a 45 or two) were 'coming soon'. A colleague is certain that they were announced as a new tooling.

 

Are we right, or did we dream it; can't find much posted about recent issues of Peaks?

I think it may have been mentioned somewhere that the next logical step after the class 40 would be an upgraded Peak, being a similar chassis and currently not having lighting.

As the 40 is not out yet and the refurbished 31 has been announced, you may have to wait another year or so yet....

 

Dave

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I think Farish at one point had stated they would be re-issuing the existing tooled models with different numbers, but this was cancelled, for whatever reason ( i don't think there was one given). I think this, coupled with the emergence of the re-tooled 40 has prompted some to surmise they will also re-tool the Peaks shortly, but there's been nothing official to confirm nor deny.

 

Apart from the bogies, the tooling isn't that bad, albeit on an older chassis, so it may be quite far down the priorities list?

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Haven't they already produced an interim upgraded chassis for the Peaks that has modern low profile blackened wheelsets?

 

Hattons has several versions listed as available for 'pre-order'. And I'd guess there will be the odd few that are still available in stockists.

 

I'd agree that a completely newly tooled version is probably low priority and certainly unlikely to be announced in a year or two.

 

G.

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I'd agree that a completely newly tooled version is probably low priority and certainly unlikely to be announced in a year or two.

G.

I can predict exactly when they will make the announcement about upgrading the Peaks; it'll be just after I send off my three to Mercig to have the bogie frames slimmed down and the noses plated over....

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Haven't they already produced an interim upgraded chassis for the Peaks that has modern low profile blackened wheelsets?

 

Hattons has several versions listed as available for 'pre-order'. And I'd guess there will be the odd few that are still available in stockists.

 

I'd agree that a completely newly tooled version is probably low priority and certainly unlikely to be announced in a year or two.

 

G.

 

 

I doubt whether these "pre-orders" will ever be met as all the Peaks were removed from the Farish website months ago. I seem to recall a Post on another Thread some time ago which suggested that Farish had a tooling problem with the Peaks, hence their unavailability. I could be wrong however.

 

My guess is that we will have to wait until the Class 40s have been released and then Peaks with a revised DDC-ready chassis will follow at some point in the future.

 

Although I already have several Peaks I would like a few more, another example where there is a customer for a product that is currently unavailable.

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The official words at the time of cancellation back in 2015 were:

 

"Due to unforeseen production issues that have arisen at the factory, the following items are being withdrawn from the Graham Farish 2015/16 range with immediate effect.

 

371-203 Class 44 44001 BR Blue Weathered

 

371-577 Class 45 45024 BR Blue Weathered

 

371-588 Class 46 D158 BR Green Small Yellow Panel Weathered

 

These products may possibly be re-introduced in future years, but until issues have been overcome it will not be possible to release products to market."

 

Although not explicitly blaming a tooling issue, that would seem to be the most likely reason.

 

A new peak to current standards and without the overwide bogies would be most welcome, especially with split head codes.

 

Tom.

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My guess is that we will have to wait until the Class 40s have been released and then Peaks with a revised DDC-ready chassis will follow at some point in the future.

 

The class 40 was announced a while back and is due to be released. Also the 2017 range has already been announced so the Peaks certainly wouldn't be announced/released soon. And I don't see any logic following on with a newly tooled Peak because the 40 is being done. There are plenty of others also due a re-tool like the Crab, class 158/159 and 170/171 and a lengthy backlog list of announced new models.

 

But then who can forecast exactly what will be next and when it will be ready. Those announced often defy logic and joined up thinking.

 

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Thanks everyone. Seems we weren't wrong, but just a bit out of date. Experience suggests that waiting for Farish to start selling Peaks again could result in a very long wait; off to Ebay it is - not that 45's appear there very often (especially at a price that doesn't reflect how rare they appear to be second hand; currently one is on 'best offer' starting at £99). Hmm.

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Haven't they already produced an interim upgraded chassis for the Peaks that has modern low profile blackened wheelsets?

 

Hattons has several versions listed as available for 'pre-order'. And I'd guess there will be the odd few that are still available in stockists.

 

I'd agree that a completely newly tooled version is probably low priority and certainly unlikely to be announced in a year or two.

 

G.

 

Hi Grahame,

 

Agreed I just meant older as in not a more modern DCC ready chassis.

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i would definitely buy a re-tooled dcc ready lights and sound peak! I suspect they would be v popular as even people with a farish one already would buy another or upgrade.

 

if Bachmann are too slow to update their models then there could be a gap in the market here for revolution or dj models or someone else. probably unlikely to happen - though I think it could succeed.

 

as a complete aside I think Hornby arnold should shrink the Hornby OO iep to n as this will be the main intercity train for next 30 years and would sell plenty over time I should think. if Hornby arnold leave it then a competitor will undoubtedly announce one in the next few years.

 

lastly, come on with the 25/3 farish!

 

 

Tim

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My money is on next years announcements. Having done the chassis they are bound to want to cash in on it and repay the investment. Presumably good sales of the class 40 will help convince them the market for BR Blue diesels is there and look to fill more gaps.

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They have had their fingers burnt with new chassis under old tooling bodies a few times in OO scale land (V2, the seriously overpriced Ivatt tank, etc) so I doubt they would risk that again.  All new is the way to go I feel.

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i would definitely buy a re-tooled dcc ready lights and sound peak! I suspect they would be v popular as even people with a farish one already would buy another or upgrade.

Tim

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I'm not so sure. Quite a few people me included have kept their old class 31 even though the new one has lights and a DCC ready chassis.

 

Cheers

 

Paul

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Hi

 

I'm not so sure. Quite a few people me included have kept their old class 31 even though the new one has lights and a DCC ready chassis.

 

Cheers

 

Paul

 

The Peak chassis is very nice and with it's big open framed motor and flywheels a lovely runner. Chipping is possible so I do tend to agree with Paul that many will very likely elect to stick with what they have.

 

Response to and sales of the new Class 40 with it's coreless motor and Next 18 socket either sound fitted or making a sound fit straightforward will probably confirm or disprove this, and if sales are good just maybe we might see a brand new Peak a couple of years or so further down the line with a similar spec.

 

Roy

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the peasks dont seem to get talked about much imho. 

 

id like to see a br blue 45/1 with flush front and twin marker lights but cant see it for sometime.

 

seems most of the other diesel classes get discussed much more often.  Maybe Farish feel the same way plus low pre-orders might have canned a retool.

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They have had their fingers burnt with new chassis under old tooling bodies a few times in OO scale land (V2, the seriously overpriced Ivatt tank, etc) so I doubt they would risk that again.  All new is the way to go I feel.

 

Doubt it - they are already doing precisely this with the Farish GWR railcar - new chassis, original body. It should be reasonably good I'd think, giving DCC for those who desire it, and presumably a running and asthetic upgrade.

 

Folk also seem to forget that the Peak is a Bachmann tooled model of earl;y/mid 2000's; not an old Farish Poole one (so it was never made with pizza cutters or the likes) - it was the first new tool model, but used the split chassis construction (and was the last to do so). Therefore it's not *that* old - and any upgrade may well be better as that, rather than a complete retool.

 

Cheers,

Alan

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Doubt it - they are already doing precisely this with the Farish GWR railcar - new chassis, original body. It should be reasonably good I'd think, giving DCC for those who desire it, and presumably a running and asthetic upgrade.

 

Folk also seem to forget that the Peak is a Bachmann tooled model of earl;y/mid 2000's; not an old Farish Poole one (so it was never made with pizza cutters or the likes) - it was the first new tool model, but used the split chassis construction (and was the last to do so). Therefore it's not *that* old - and any upgrade may well be better as that, rather than a complete retool.

 

Cheers,

Alan

Id have to agree, over wide bogies aside, (not difficult to fix), I think the Peak is rather good. Nor is it particularly difficult to chip.

 

Jerry

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Hello,

 

I have to agree that the body detail etc on the peaks is excellent, so would be little point completely re-tooling all this. Inevitably some modification may be necessary to accommodate lighting (or the flush front/split headcode versions).

I suppose length of time for re-appearance of the peaks will depend upon whether it was the tooling for the chassis or the bodywork was lost or damaged? If its the latter, then I would expect it will be a long wait until a new model appears.

 

Most suppliers have already ran out of peaks - even my local model shop which had quite a variety of different versions until a few months ago is down to the last couple - so I would dispute that they are not a popular class with modellers. I think that the cancelled batch were weathered models may have accounted for the low level of pre-orders that people have speculated as being a reason (along with loss of tooling) for Bachmann dropping the peaks for the time being.

 

Regards,

Paul

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yeh i think the weathering was not great in the picture, just a dusting of light brown dirt really... I prefer v light weathering just to tone down the plastic not dirt all over the body sides, but that's just personal taste.

 

hopefully the body tool is usable. I have 46053 and 45112 in blue (or whatever the numbers are) but would like a 45/1 in normal blue livery with high intensity light like late on in its life, and a blue class 44 with discs too.

 

so get cracking Bachmann!! got class 40 to look forward to this year but some peaks to be delivered in 2018 or 2019 please!!

 

Tim

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