Guest Q663389 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 (edited) I have been researching BR 20T Brake Vans for quite some time. Have Dapol copied Slater's with respect to the curved rain strips on the roof ?. My understanding is they were straight but angled. I could be wrong however. Edited December 2, 2017 by Q663389 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted December 2, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 2, 2017 Have Dapol copied Slater's with respect to the curved rain strips on the roof? Curved in the photo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenmodelmonkey Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Curved in the photo. There many sorts of rain strip and the version Dapol are depicting is acceptable and not necessarily a copy. I have learnt to accept that you can't please everyone with the models that Dapol produces for many different reasons, but I expect the model in this form will be very acceptable to most. This aside, having built a Slater's kit which (which was not perfect and a quiet a challenge at times to make) it will be a delight to just take one fully finished van out of the box for similar cost and likely to be a less fragile model. Just hope it hits shops in good time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted December 2, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 2, 2017 There many sorts of rain strip and the version Dapol are depicting is acceptable and not necessarily a copy. I have learnt to accept that you can't please everyone with the models that Dapol produces for many different reasons, but I expect the model in this form will be very acceptable to most. This aside, having built a Slater's kit which (which was not perfect and a quiet a challenge at times to make) it will be a delight to just take one fully finished van out of the box for similar cost and likely to be a less fragile model. Just hope it hits shops in good time. Just relaying info! Dapol, particularly post Lionheart merger, have been bringing out some good stuff. That said, there are also surplus kits around secondhand at good prices now so everyone wins really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 (edited) There many sorts of rain strip and the version Dapol are depicting is acceptable and not necessarily a copy. I have learnt to accept that you can't please everyone with the models that Dapol produces for many different reasons, but I expect the model in this form will be very acceptable to most. This aside, having built a Slater's kit which (which was not perfect and a quiet a challenge at times to make) it will be a delight to just take one fully finished van out of the box for similar cost and likely to be a less fragile model. Just hope it hits shops in good time. Hi GMM, Indeed! The Slaters van isnt w/o its challenges in terms of construction and accuracy. Now RW/Lionheart are involved with Dapol, better accuracy should be expected from Dapol judging by recent releases. I have a few of the Dapol 12T vans, they aint perfect, but theyre good layout models (with a few tweaks). Slightly annoying that certain details are omitted but theyre easy to remedy. Now that Peco owns Parkside it will also be interesting to see if PSDs continous improvement continues. Im not too worried about the Dapol BV hitting the shops early/on time (I understand that the single-source factory in China is over worked-so dont hold your breath), but that the model is accurate and substantially complete... Just relaying info! Dapol, particularly post Lionheart merger, have been bringing out some good stuff. That said, there are also surplus kits around secondhand at good prices now so everyone wins really. Thanks for Posting HN, a win/win if Dapol get this BV right, I love building kits but time is often in short supply so RTR helps get me to where I need to be. Kind regards to all, CME. Edited December 2, 2017 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 I have been researching BR 20T Brake Vans for quite some time. Have Dapol copied Slater's with respect to the curved rain strips on the roof ?. My understanding is they were straight but angled. I could be wrong however. Yes, not easy to see on most of my numerous photos, but straight does seem to be usual. Many appear to be like this http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brbrakediag507/e26a669a3 and some are much longer http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brbrakediag507/e2710fd98 I accept that these, and others are some years after production and the canvas is poorly applied so I suspect the canvas is reapplied, which requires the rain strips to alter. I realise these are not suitable for the LNER, however they also appear to be straight http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lnerbrake/e2cccf219 Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartb Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Has anybody heard anything about the BR Brake vans being issued yet. Thought they were due about now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdseyecircus Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Has anybody heard anything about the BR Brake vans being issued yet. Thought they were due about now.Hattons sent me an email around a month ago saying late feb I think. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartb Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Thank you Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
56038 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Advised by Hattons at Model Rail Scotland that could be April / May (maybe.......) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
56038 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 On reflection.... it would be useful if Dapol could advise on release date! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike hughes Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Or a year!! A bit below the belt (couldn't resist that ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 On reflection.... it would be useful if Dapol could advise on release date! Dont hold your breath! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogman1969 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 See I'm now at the 'pre-tooling' stage.... doing a proper job 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted March 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) Best I could get through glass but gives a flavour at least. Edited March 24, 2018 by Hal Nail 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 This looks great! I like the brass lamp brackets. I don't see safety loops on the brake yokes - I have a thing about these John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) Thanks for Posting-looks quite nice doesnt it, always hard to tell from a photo, but shaping up well. The brake yokes look to be in place, safety check rods would be good, as theyre quite noticable (but easy to retro fit)......hand rails etc look good and roof edges nice and thin. ATVB CME Edited March 24, 2018 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdseyecircus Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Hattons now advise between may and June now. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenmodelmonkey Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Hattons now advise between may and June now. Paul Which year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenmodelmonkey Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Antics made contact with me yesterday for payment in readiness for swift delivery which they said Dapol said was imminent. Looking forward to these! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 (edited) My supplier hasnt!? Are you talking about the 20T BV or the Hopper? Mindu it wudnt surprise me, if its the 20T BV, as the word and phrase 'Dapol and effective communications', doesnt always go together! If it is the 20T BV, it seems strange too that one minute theres a WIP EP (still being fettled) and that then jumps from WIP EP to production models in the shops and yet no 'decorated samples'?? Not sure if its the same in model rly manufacture but having worked in FMCG manufacturing on supplychain and procurement side, there is usually a set sequence of events and procedurers when introducing a new product. Perhaps Dapol are also now adopting FMCG practices? LOL! ATVB CME Edited April 7, 2018 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdseyecircus Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Tower is showing new SR pillbox brake vans in stock. Perhaps it's these? Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenmodelmonkey Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Tower is showing new SR pillbox brake vans in stock. Perhaps it's these? Paul Ummmm think I need to check what's coming.... And when then, cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 (edited) Tower is showing new SR pillbox brake vans in stock. Perhaps it's these? Paul Hi Paul, Those will be reruns of new liveries and/or running numbers I suspect..... Ummmm think I need to check what's coming.... And when then, cheers It is confusing isnt it, the 20T BVs might be ready as Ive heard rumblings elsewhere, but I doubt it, more likely to be the June deadline (if we are lucky)-Dapol have issued decorated samples of other models in the past, so that looks like their MO? ATVB CME Edited April 7, 2018 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgood Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 (edited) Now then - would a grey BV always have been unfitted, and a bauxite BV fitted? That's what I would expect, but I'm having trouble finding photos from the 1964-1968 period to work it out for myself. Some bauxite vans from the 70s - 80s (a fair few found on Paul Bartlet's website) seem to have no vacuum pipes, so would grey unfitted vans have been repainted into bauxite by this time? Edit: Is it reasonable to assume that fitted BVs would sometimes be seen on unfitted trains, or is that most unlikely? Edited April 8, 2018 by Osgood Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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