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Pullman Profile No5 Golden Arrow, Ocean Liner Trains


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Finally published !!

Bought mine a week ago.

 

it's a pity they couldn't have left the text on the spine the same as the previous 4.

It's totally different and doesn't match

I've had other book series change publisher mid-stream and they normally attempt to make them match.

 

Keith

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Everything before 1908?

I've got R.W. Kidner's Oakwood book and there is some early stuff in there that could be expanded into a larger volume.

Some of the clerestory coaches look rather swish.

 

Keith

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Pre 1921, clerestories, Midland American, mk1 Pullmans ?? BR Manchester ? Blue Pullman well covered elsewhere.

Somewhere inside it normally tells you but I don't get my copy until next month.

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Alert to misrepresentation!

 

This morning I received my copy of Vol 5 of the Pullman series, which is advertised (with a picture of the cover) in most places, including on Crécy's own web site, as 'Golden Arrow and Ocean Liner  Express Pullmans Trains'.

 

The actual cover as received shows 'Golden Arrow' only, and indeed the book only covers that train - there is nothing whatsoever in it about other ocean liner pullman trains. Moreover, at the back of the book (on page 224) there is an advertisement for Volume 6, said to be in preparation for 2019, to cover 'The Ocean Liner Express Pullman Trains'.

 

Caveat emptor - Volume 5 is NOT what the advertising leads you to believe it is. If you are expecting information about, say, Southampton-bound ocean liner pullmans, forget it. I have, of course, represented this directly to Crécy as well as to the bookseller from whom I bought my copy.

 

That said, if you accept that the book is only about the Golden Arrow, then you will probably be happy (despite the hefty cover price), even though some of the technical detail of the carriages has already been covered in previous volumes (2 and 3 in particular). There are masses of pictures and a lot of information in Vol 5, for sure, but I do get the impression that it has been 'padded out' somewhat by more trivial matter than in previous volumes. Makes one wonder what the advertised Vol 6 will be like in reality if and when it appears.

 

Very naughty, Crécy Publications. I feel a public correction would be in order.

 

 

(Edited for typos)

 

Mike.

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You say it has a hefty cover price but £32.95* is very much the going rate for a quality volume with plenty of colour and first rate photos.

However who pays the cover price?

Mine cost £21.71 inc postage from speedyhen:

 

https://www.speedyhen.com/Product/Antony-M-Ford/Pullman-Profile--The-Golden-Arrow-and-Ocean-Liner-Express-Pullmans-No-5/21981080

(Now down to £20.06 but OOS)

 

The subject matter however is misleading as all the sellers I have seen online show the Creçy cover photo which quite clearly is misleading.

I wonder when it got changed as that hardly looks like a mock up?

 

Keith

 

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*Incidentally Vol.4 from 2012 had a cover price of £33.00 and had 32 less pages.

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Agree your point about real prices to pay as distinct from cover prices - like you, I paid just over £21 for this book.

I agree also about the publicity photos of the apparently real cover, which is rather why I feel piqued about being conned over the supposed content. It is that, rather than any question of value for money which upsets me!

 

Mike

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When I first found out that the subject would be about the "trains" rather than the "individual cars" like the previous books I was in two minds.

So how much is actually repeated ? Are there any "car" histories not in the previous books ?

My order is around £20 so not worried about pricing.

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