Dai Davies Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 If Shawplan were to introduce flush glazing for GWR stock, which would you buy? FWIW, my picks are Bachmann Collet 60' coaches, and Lima/Hornby flying banana. What's yours? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted April 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2017 If Shawplan were to introduce flush glazing for GWR stock, which would you buy? FWIW, my picks are Bachmann Collet 60' coaches, and Lima/Hornby flying banana. What's yours? Both would be fantastic candidates for laser glazing, although the Collets would be a little more costly in development as it would require a scale sized set for the Mainline models and a short window height for the Bachmann ones... I'm surprised no one has done it already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted April 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2017 Airfix B set, Mainline/replica Colletts Bachmann Colletts Hornby Colletts, Airfix/Mainline Centenaries & auto coaches, Hornby/Airfix brake van, Mainline/Replica/Bachmann brake van Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Davies Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 Both would be fantastic candidates for laser glazing, although the Collets would be a little more costly in development as it would require a scale sized set for the Mainline models and a short window height for the Bachmann ones... I'm surprised no one has done it already The reason I chose the Bachmann version was because this is still being produced and sold, so would be more commercially viable for Shawplan. When I reviewed my coaches, I have more Mainline in original condition than Bachmann:they are more prototypical.In the main, my Bachmann coaches have various Comet sides applied. I would be willing to forgive the window inaccuracy of the Bachmanns if Laserglaze were available for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Davies Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) Airfix B set, Mainline/replica Colletts Bachmann Colletts Hornby Colletts, Airfix/Mainline Centenaries & auto coaches, Hornby/Airfix brake van, Mainline/Replica/Bachmann brake van Hi, FYI Laserglaze is already available for the B-sets and the Bachmann Toad. And they fit very nicely too! Edit. And also for the autocoach. Edited April 14, 2017 by Dai Davies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted April 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2017 The reason I chose the Bachmann version was because this is still being produced and sold, so would be more commercially viable for Shawplan. When I reviewed my coaches, I have more Mainline in original condition than Bachmann:they are more prototypical.In the main, my Bachmann coaches have various Comet sides applied. I would be willing to forgive the window inaccuracy of the Bachmanns if Laserglaze were available for them. My thought was more that in all likelihood the majority prepared to pay upwards of £10 a coach for the glazing, would want it to be as accurate as possible (knowing that they are all 2mm short). A lot would come down to what models were available to Shawplan (or another) to work from. I keep thinking about commissioning my own, its the trial and error stage for the window corners which puts me off. If I do ever get round to buying a silhouette cutter I will have a crack at making some plastic blanks of the appropriate size to check the drawings are correct before placing an order with a laser cutting company... I have 6 or 7 of the Mainline coaches which are awaiting glazing, including my wartime brown example. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold nickwood Posted April 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 15, 2017 At exhibitions I have been badgering Brian from Shawplan to do the LIma / Hornby GWR Railcar for a couple of years now. He told me during a lengthy converstaion at the recent Alexandra Palace show it should be available shortly. The problem is he doesn't update his website very often so most people will not be aware when it becomes available. I suggest for anyone interested they email Brian through his website and express an interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Davies Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 I saw Brian from Shawplan at York show. A few points, questions: He has a flying banana on his desk back at the ranch. He now has a Replica Collet 60' all 3rd. Is this the same as the Mainline or the Bachmann version? (I bought the Replica body at the show for £2.50p!!) I shall be sending him a Centenary or two in the near future, but I don't have any more body shells for Colletts. Volunteers? One area we discussed concerned ventilators. It would make his life easier and introductions faster if the ventilators were etched brass overlays applied to the Laserglaze window (this would not apply to the flying banana as the model is easier to work with). This is what he now does with his diesel introductions. Anyway, he is going to play around with the Replica bodyshell to see what is feasible. Are you OK with his ventilator approach? Let me know your thoughts, and I shall push on. Cheers, Dai Davies 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel newling Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I will hold your coat. I have at least 10 Mainline Collett brake composites and thirds that would benefit from laser glaze flush windows. :-D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium tanatvalley Posted April 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 17, 2017 At exhibitions I have been badgering Brian from Shawplan to do the LIma / Hornby GWR Railcar for a couple of years now. He told me during a lengthy converstaion at the recent Alexandra Palace show it should be available shortly. And I have been asking for more years than I can remember... Good to know it may be soon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
88D Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Good news. Shawplan has now released the laser glazing for the Lima/Hornby flying banana. Shall get my order in pronto! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Be good if we could get it for the old K’s (Keyser) Autotrailer. I have 5 of them that have stalled in construction at the glazing stage. The kits are just too thick to install glazing behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
88D Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Be good if we could get it for the old K’s (Keyser) Autotrailer. I have 5 of them that have stalled in construction at the glazing stage. The kits are just too thick to install glazing behind. Can’t see that happening. Not many of those being sold today that don’t have bends in them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 I will hold your coat. I have at least 10 Mainline Collett brake composites and thirds that would benefit from laser glaze flush windows. :-D They would also benefit from being the right scale length. Putting laser glaze into those is akin to polishing a turd IMHO. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Be good if we could get it for the old K’s (Keyser) Autotrailer. I have 5 of them that have stalled in construction at the glazing stage. The kits are just too thick to install glazing behind. I've got two to build - I'm thinking in term of (very carefully) milling glazing recesses into the cast sides. Regards, John Isherwood. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted March 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) They would also benefit from being the right scale length. Putting laser glaze into those is akin to polishing a turd IMHO. Chris You can really see the discrepancy when they are going past you on a layout, can you? Most people don't even spot that Bachmann letter up thirds as composites. John Edited March 9, 2018 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted March 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2018 You can really see the discrepancy when they are going past you on a layout, can you? Most people don't even spot that Bachmann letter up thirds as composites. John The dodgy window height on the third certainly stands out more than the length to me, though it still bugs me that it’s wrong. Will do a comparison between a 60ft large window first and a 60ft6 Mainline third later which will show the difference well enough. I have a Sunshine first to build (currently debating if I will shorten a Bachmann coach (and get the riveted roof) or build the full comet kit. I’m inclined to do the former and use the rest of the comet kit in order to build a large window brake third... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Can’t see that happening. Not many of those being sold today that don’t have bends in them! Bend the whitemetal straight and solder a brass strengthening strip along the top edge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Like so. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted March 16, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 16, 2018 I'd love to see a completed railcar with the lazer glaze. Might make me dig my Lima one out and convert it to DCC! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 ....have at least 10 Mainline Collett brake composites and thirds ..... They would also benefit from being the right scale length. .... First I've heard of that, Chris. In what way are they deficient? Too long, or too short? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Too short, by 6 scale inches [2mm]. I'd love to know why. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Too short, by 6 scale inches [2mm]. I'd love to know why. Interesting. Is that error spread out throughout the length of the bodyshell, or is it restricted to one particular part? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Without a scale drawing of the brake composite I cannot be certain but it seems to be spread more or less evenly thoughout the length. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Without a scale drawing of the brake composite I cannot be certain but it seems to be spread more or less evenly thoughout the length.... Presumably difficult to correct, then. Oh grate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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