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#1 Jon Gwinnett

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 18:47

Chagford BR (WR) - Freight Twilight - New Project

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??? posted on Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:55 am

An assortment of shots of my father's layout - Chagford:

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Comment posted by 10800 on Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:09 pm

Very nice Jon - any more details, plan, scale?

I like the backscene, especially in the last picture where you really can't tell where the layout ends and the backdrop begins Posted Image
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??? posted on Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:11 pm

Its O gauge.

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??? posted on Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:20 pm

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Looking from above the tunnel mouth towards the station. The kick back siding in the left foreground leads to this:

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Other more recent work has included installing the first signal:

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Comment posted by Miss Prism on Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:20 pm

Excellent scenic work - subdued and restrained.
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Comment posted by Douglas G on Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:09 pm

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Excellent scenic work - subdued and restrained.

I agree totally - this layout shows fantastic use of a careful pallet of colours, with lots of blue-white incorporated to give the effect of distance. In particular there are brighter colours in the foreground and very pale colours in the background, just as you would see in real life.

I hesitate to make a criticism/suggestion with something so good, but it is meant in a positive, constructive way. As with many model railway backgrounds, the hills in the distance look too low to my eyes for the typical viewing position "in the air" above the layout (as used for the photos). Art teachers say that the horizon is always at eye-level in the real world, so in a model backscene quite a depth of hills and land in the background should be portrayed. Then again, if you are viewing from track level, what has been done in this example is probably about right.

Douglas
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Comment posted by Emmo on Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:52 pm

Excellent layout and credit to your father. Seeing stuff like this makes you want to start all over again! Nice backscenes - photographs I assume. I've seen so many wonderful layouts ruined by painted backscenes irrespective of how good the artist is. Painted scenes will always look like painted scenes - photographic ones show realism.
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Comment posted by dseagull on Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:12 pm

That's really nice. As has been said, superb colouring.
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Comment posted by number6 on Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:29 pm

Really nice - excellent observation on how the landscape and railway interact. And the low and small image size on the backscene is very cany!
Raphael
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??? posted on Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:56 pm

Thanks for all the kind words - my father is overwhelmed!

In response to the post about the horizon level, he's set it at eye level for when he's sitting operating the layout - hope this makes sense.
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Comment posted by Douglas G on Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:45 pm

jongwinnett wrote:
Thanks for all the kind words - my father is overwhelmed!

In response to the post about the horizon level, he's set it at eye level for when he's sitting operating the layout - hope this makes sense.

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That's the problem with a model backscene - unlike a real scene, the horizon position doesn't change as the height of your viewpoint changes.

More than anything, what your father's layout shows is the importance of consistency across all aspects of the layout so that the whole blends into a convincing, realistic whole.

Douglas
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Comment posted by John B on Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:12 am

Some fabulous modelling here, Jon - serious kudos to your dad! Posted Image

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Comment posted by nevardmedia on Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:20 am

For me the landscape on the backscene is about the right height - especially if you're likely to be using the layout alot for photography from 'ground level'.

Great colouring and refreshingly free from Wo#dland Sc#nics 'ground foam' masquerading as grass - top man!
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??? posted on Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:07 pm

Thanks again. As I said, my father (Terry) was quite overwhelmed by the response - but he expresses it far better himself:

I would like to express my heartfelt thanks to all those who have submitted comments on my humble - and still unfinished - rendering of Chagford as it might have been. It is really encouraging to receive the opinions of people who have never seen it before and are therefore not quite so biased as Jonathan may be. When you work away, year after year, familiarity can easily breed contempt, but it has long been my ambition to finish it to a level where it might be considered for publication in one of the modelling magazines. That ambition is still there but Jonathan has almost pre-empted it through your forum, for which I thank him. There is still some way to go but your comments will certainly spur me on.

Although he doesn't say so, I know that this labour of love has kept him going through serious ill health, giving him a focus. It might sound gushing Posted Image , but his dogged determination humbles me every time I think of it. Which is often...
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Comment posted by Anglian on Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:57 am

I think this is very nice indeed, your father has every reason to be proud. Somehow to my eyes this type of restrained modelling is far more atmospheric than a more cluttered design, perhaps because I spent too many hours waiting on a fairly desolate platform for my train to school.

Everything is in harmony and the buildings are particualry well rendered.

I'd enjoy seeing more.
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Comment posted by Gravy Train on Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:40 am

Jongwinnet,
A lovely layout is that, and modelled to a very high standard and the backscene works very well indeed as wether it is too low or high i have no idea as never been to chagford.
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Comment posted by 7F 2-8-0 on Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:04 pm

That is a real nice layout you have there.

Shaun
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??? posted on Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:07 pm

Some older and stock shots

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Comment posted by Stuart in OZ on Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:59 am

WOW, very nice looking layout, Hope I can come close.

Stuart in OZ
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Comment posted by Phil on Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:31 am

Thanks for posting these pics Jonathan. Your father has crafted a fine model railway there. As Miss P said earlier, the colours appear very natural and the layout just flows.

Very nice indeed and a credit to your dad.
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Comment posted by lapford34102 on Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:09 am

Hi,
Simply superb! I wish I could be as subtle. How big is it?

Stu
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Comment posted by Andel on Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:31 am

It's amazing. Tell your father I'm in awe of some excellant work - it shows what high standards I have to aim at.
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Comment posted by Bangor Lad on Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:31 pm

I'd like to mirror all the comments to date on the quality of this layout. Simply brilliant!

BL
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??? posted on Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:41 pm

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Simply superb! I wish I could be as subtle. How big is it?

Stu

Thanks all for the comments. The layout is about 16' long - probably 3' wide at most. But it cuts a crescent round the room, so the depth along the ends is as much as 8', but with a very narrow board.
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Posted 23 October 2009 - 18:48

Chagford BR (WR) - Freight Twilight - New Project

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T'other Pannier (I had a hand in building this, and its on its third paint scheme!)

Those with long memories might recall this in its virgin brass state at the Glasgow show about 10 years ago!
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Comment posted by mines a pint on Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:21 am

Very nice, I know you mentioned this in the my thread about being 'tempted' to have a go at 7mm- just adds to the temptation- only got about half as much space though Posted Image - Lovely model, scenery looks spot on, nice colouring.
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??? posted on Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:00 pm

mines a pint wrote:
Very nice, I know you mentioned this in the my thread about being 'tempted' to have a go at 7mm- just adds to the temptation- only got about half as much space though Posted Image - Lovely model, scenery looks spot on, nice colouring.

Well, Ditchling Green was much smaller, so its possible to get oodles of atmosphere in less space, although I do like the spacious feel of Chagford, I must admit.
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Comment posted by ScRSG on Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:40 pm

Jon,
Finally managed to navigate my way here, yer dad's layout looks excellent! Should look even better with all the new wagons your getting him!!!!
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Comment posted by ardgart on Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:12 pm

Your Dad should be very proud of his work if ever I can achieve even half of whats hes done I will be pleased again excellent layout and good luck and health to a true master of railway modelling
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??? posted on Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:00 pm

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Latest addition to the wagon fleet. Needs weathering and has pretty much no place in Devon in the early 60's but its his train set, and a lovely model, so who am I to complain!
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Comment posted by smudgeloco on Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:23 pm

This is what the hobby is all about. Fantastic, and so very believable.
May I ask where the backscenes originated?
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Comment posted by DaveGeo on Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:25 pm

I don't know what it is but I think there is a natural, calming atmosphere that seems to be emanating from this layout - matched no less by the quality of the photos.

Really good stuff.

Dave
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??? posted on Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:27 pm

Some other odd pics, and the new crane (ex Hornby Dublo!)

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Starting point:

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And the finished article:

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The large gears for the hand crank mechanism were fretted out by hand:

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??? posted on Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:31 pm

smudgeloco wrote:
This is what the hobby is all about. Fantastic, and so very believable.
May I ask where the backscenes originated?

The "Sky" is emulsion sponged and graduated into the horizon. The landscape is pictures, (taken in Dorset or Wilts I think,) cut and pasted onto the walls. The pictures might have been put through one of the free panorama programmes first I think.
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??? posted on Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:33 pm

DaveGeo wrote:
I don't know what it is but I think there is a natural, calming atmosphere that seems to be emanating from this layout - matched no less by the quality of the photos.

Really good stuff.

Dave

Thanks Dave - my dad will be delighted by your response I think!
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Comment posted by Wonder-Rail on Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:40 pm

Really nice layout, one question, where did you get the Oxfit's from? (Cattle wagons)
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Really nice layout, one question, where did you get the Oxfit's from? (Cattle wagons)

I got them at Telford GOG about ten years ago - they "might" have been by Richard De camin, but in aby event they are a mixture of Slaters sides and running gear and Resin ends, aluminium roof IRC.
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Comment posted by nevardmedia on Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:10 am

Amazing looking wagons, the patina is brilliant!
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Amazing looking wagons, the patina is brilliant!

Thanks Chris Posted Image The sheeted wagon was one of mine - built and painted about 12-14 years ago after an example in Martyn Welch's book - the finish is pure Welch. These days, If I were starting again the finish might be more a la Pugsley Posted Image . It was originally loaded with Milliput sacks (again a Welch idea) but these had gone off over time and become sticky - so Dad replaced them with the sheet as shown in the pictures.

I've checked with my old man and he confirms the backscene photos were a mix of shots from Dorset and Wilts - probably the Shaftesbury/Gillingham sort of area (I have family in Newtown near Tisbury)
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??? posted on Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:50 pm

The crane again. (He wants to replace the hook - what do you think?)

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Comment posted by Captain Kernow on Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:02 pm

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The crane again. (He wants to replace the hook - what do you think?)

It's a lovely model (the whole layout is brilliant), but I can see where he's coming from with that hook. The real thing had a fairly hefty cast hook, I'd have said. Perhaps you can achieve that by building it up with solder?
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Comment posted by nevardmedia on Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:22 pm

A couple of nice little cameos there. You can almost smell the raw fuel in that tank!
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Comment posted by Barry Ten on Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:08 pm

Abbotsbury the prototype for the station building, by any chance? Lovely layout indeed, as others have noted.
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Comment posted by PaulRhB on Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:21 pm

Lovely layout, the grass and subtle colouring of the rail is absolutely spot on. I must try harder!
What does he use for grass?
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??? posted on Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:31 pm

Barry Ten wrote:
Abbotsbury the prototype for the station building, by any chance? Lovely layout indeed, as others have noted.

Yes, or at least a William Clark design. Its a resin kit I picked up at galsgow show about, um, make that, many, years ago
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??? posted on Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:32 pm

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Lovely layout, the grass and subtle colouring of the rail is absolutely spot on. I must try harder!
What does he use for grass?

Mainly dyed/painted lint, with some woodland scenics and maybe hanging basket liner. I'll ask him.
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A couple of nice little cameos there. You can almost smell the raw fuel in that tank!

Mmmm. That tanker shot is one of the most innovative I've seen this year, I think (not to mention the quality of the modelling in it). I'm sure your Dad will have no trouble getting this published
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Posted 23 October 2009 - 18:49

Chagford BR (WR) - Freight Twilight - New Project

by jongwinnett

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A couple of nice little cameos there. You can almost smell the raw fuel in that tank!

Mmmm. That tanker shot is one of the most innovative I've seen this year, I think (not to mention the quality of the modelling in it). I'm sure your Dad will have no trouble getting this published

Thanks for all the kind comments guys - duly pased on. I keep tellign him to send some photos off to the magazines, but he doesn't believe they're good enough. There's no telling some people Posted Image
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Thanks for all the kind comments guys - duly pased on. I keep tellign him to send some photos off to the magazines, but he doesn't believe they're good enough. There's no telling some people Posted Image

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??? posted on Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:49 am

Crane update: new hook

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Comment posted by Brinkly on Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:53 pm

Very nice Jon, the sheeps on the hill look very good! Posted Image

Nick
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Comment posted by shortliner on Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:57 pm

.......and a very neat way of "disappearing" the road!
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Comment posted by nevardmedia on Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:32 pm

Try to imagine that scene on a cold, windy & wet winter's day... b b b r r r r r r r ...
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Comment posted by shortliner on Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:11 pm

....rather like the A838 road onwards from Lairg to Laxford Bridge and on to Durness - or the A 836 road to Altnaharra - really fun in a Landrover on a cold wet day in the winter - I've done that a few times!

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Comment posted by Brinkly on Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:38 pm

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Try to imagine that scene on a cold, windy & wet winter's day... b b b r r r r r r r ...

You'll need to take a flask with you when you photograph it Chris! Posted Image

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??? posted on Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:49 pm

Thanks guys - I rather liked the desolate feel myself. My Dad used to own a black Standard Vanguard, hence its appearance on't moor
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Comment posted by Brinkly on Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:56 pm

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My Dad used to own a black Standard Vanguard, hence its appearance on't moor

That??????????¬???????s nice as it adds a personal touch to a layout, that only you really know about. I shall be buying a Morris Minor van soon, as my late grandfather had one for his carpentry business after he came out of the Paras. Posted Image

Nick
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Comment posted by British Railways on Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:17 pm

This layout looks excellent it's inspirational to me, well done on such a brilliant layout. Posted Image
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??? posted on Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:31 pm

Posted Image Thank you. I shall tell Dad - he'll be pleased
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Comment posted by SouthernRegionSteam on Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:56 pm

sorry only just seen this thread! but look at what i've missed! excellent modelling! really good...

and, can i just say how realistic those shots are, i especially liked the crane wih the new hook shot- very atmospheric cameo Posted Image Posted Image i really did have to look twice!

cheers,

Jam
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??? posted on Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:02 pm

A few updates:

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Comment posted by Brinkly on Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:39 pm

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These photos are wonderful, the detail is just amazing. Chagford really must go in a modelling magazine at some point as this level of craftsman ship must be seen by all.

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Comment posted by jiffyman on Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:36 pm

Agreed about putting it into a magazine, definately!!!

Such a wonderful layout, I hope, once I start one, that mine will be as pleasing to the eye and have such excellent detailing.

I take it though, that this is a 'what might have been' if the line went to Chagford from Moretonhampstead???

I can see it down in that area actually, as I sometimes do work in that area.

All credit to your day and his excellent modelling skil!! LOVE IT, and get it in a mag.............!!!
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Comment posted by Anglian on Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:51 pm

That last shot with the Morris Woody is great. Its easily good enough for magazine.
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Comment posted by nevardmedia on Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:18 pm

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That last shot with the Morris Woody is great. Its easily good enough for magazine.

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??? posted on Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:23 pm

Thanks Guys. I keep nagging at dad, but he says "its not finished".

As i think I've mentioned before, he has inoperable bowel cancer, so I occasionally remind him that tempus fugit....

He'll really appreciate your comments as usual!
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??? posted on Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:36 pm

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I take it though, that this is a 'what might have been' if the line went to Chagford from Moretonhampstead???

That's the idea. Glad you like it
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Comment posted by westrerner on Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:01 pm

Still inspiring me. Go for the mag.
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Comment posted by BEN TRUCK on Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:09 pm

Lovely work and exquisite modelling , I can,t get near it ,keep us updated
cheers
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Posted 23 October 2009 - 18:50

Chagford BR (WR) - Freight Twilight - New Project

by jongwinnett

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??? posted on Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:52 pm

Popped down to see the folks yesterday and managed to sneak a few minutes in Chagford, so my own pics for a change!

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Wonderful as always Jon.

Nick
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Comment posted by rugd1022 on Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:57 pm

Only just picked up on is wonderful thread (how I missed it I'll never know) just want to say how beautiful the layout looks, each and every detail hits the spot . . . . its like looking through the pages of an Ian Allan colour portfolio on GWR branch lines, a real visual treat Posted Image

Smashing!

Cheers, Nidge
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Comment posted by dibateg on Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:13 pm

This is a cracking layout, full of atmosphere. Your father has to be congratulated for creating such a superb model. It is inspirational, and really should be published in one of the magazines.

Regards
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??? posted on Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:12 pm

Thanks everyone. I have passed your comments on to Terry (Dad!) and he is very pleased/humbled
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Comment posted by Brinkly on Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:15 pm

jongwinnett wrote:
Thanks everyone. I have passed your comments on to Terry (Dad!) and he is very pleased/humbled

It is a real master in 7mm scale modelling. Just out of interest John how much stock does he have? I have seen a couple of 57xx Tanks.

Nick
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??? posted on Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:28 pm

Brinkly wrote:

jongwinnett wrote:
Thanks everyone. I have passed your comments on to Terry (Dad!) and he is very pleased/humbled

It is a real master in 7mm scale modelling. Just out of interest John how much stock does he have? I have seen a couple of 57xx Tanks.

Nick

Just the pair of tanks and a Heljan hymek. He's on a pension y'know Posted Image

I built the first pannier (the round cab) about 12 years ago, he bought the other built, but rejigged it himself. He has a couple of coaches - a JLTRT bset (1 coach only!) and a sytrex suburban, and between us over the years we've built far too many wagons. (Oh and he's rather fond of diecasts too, as may be glimpsed in some of the pics.)
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Comment posted by Brinkly on Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:43 pm

jongwinnett wrote:
Just the pair of tanks and a Heljan hymek. He's on a pension y'know Posted Image

I built the first pannier (the round cab) about 12 years ago, he bought the other built, but rejigged it himself. He has a couple of coaches - a JLTRT bset (1 coach only!) and a sytrex suburban, and between us over the years we've built far too many wagons. (Oh and he's rather fond of diecasts too, as may be glimpsed in some of the pics.)

Cheers Jon prototypically its bang on then for motive power! Posted Image Posted Image

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??? posted on Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:29 pm

Yes, a 14xx or Prairie might be nice, but don't come cheap, in either time or money. Mind you, his chemo is holding the big C at bay for now so the time thing hasn't been too much of an issue! Posted Image

He reads this occasionally so I hope i don't get in the bad books for mentioning the cancer.

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Comment posted by mines a pint on Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:56 pm

Superb as always! -love the rail level pics! Posted Image
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Comment posted by josh993 on Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:01 pm

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??? posted on Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:58 am

At last I've bullied him into taking some more pics. A taster for now - more later when I get time to upload

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Comment posted by Brinkly on Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:42 pm

Stunning work Jon as ever. How big is the layout?

Nick
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Comment posted by steve fay on Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:43 pm

Fantastic layout, Posted Image is the station building and goods shed from invertrain? I m thinking o getting one Posted Image
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??? posted on Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:54 pm

Hi.

The layout is about 16ft by about 3 at its deepest point. Imagine a 16*8 box, the front of the layout describes an (uneven) arc from front corner to front corner. So when you sit or stand at the controls (by the station) the layout curves away behind you at both ends.

And yes, I think the station is Invertrain. I bought it but so long ago I can't honestly remember. Abbotsbury branch I imagine? Not sure about the goods shed - might be scratch or kitbashed - I'm not sure so I'll ask.
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Comment posted by josh993 on Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:44 am

Looks Absoulouty fantastic well done Jon,

I must say looking at this it makes 0 gauge lookn very tempting Posted Image
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Comment posted by Brinkly on Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:50 am

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I must say looking at this it makes 0 gauge look very tempting Posted Image

Since joing RMWeb and seeing Onslaughts (Phil of this Parish) layout and workbench, coupled with Chagford O gauge to me has become more appealing. I just currently lack the space for a major project.
My own layout that I am planning to build in P4 will come in at around 16 - 20ft by about 8ft, so if this was constructed in O gauge I would need double that amount of space! However a terminus in a shed, running round the garden is looking very tempting. Posted Image

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??? posted on Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:59 pm

josh993 wrote:
Looks Absoulouty fantastic well done Jon,

Any merit is my Dad's not mine, but thanks for the kind comments
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Comment posted by Jack on Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:23 pm

This is a very inspirational layout, keep the piccies coming. Posted Image
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Comment posted by Anglian on Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:38 pm

I love the restraint shown coupled with great observation and modeling. A wonderful layout and one that shows, to my way of thinking at least, that a smaller layout concept executed really extremely well can convey bucket loads of atmosphere.
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??? posted on Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:12 pm

Some behind the scenes shots, showing the rotating fiddleyard:

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Comment posted by -missy- on Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:28 pm

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This is a fantasic layout. Now if I could make anything like this I would be a VERY happy person. Love everything about it, its exactly what I love in a layout. Great work.

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 18:51

Chagford BR (WR) - Freight Twilight - New Project

by jongwinnett

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??? posted on Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:42 pm

Cheers- Highclere is pretty inspirational too!
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??? posted on Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:42 pm

Dad's latest project:

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Dad did his apprenticeship at Lansing Bagnall and worked there for 30 some years.This toy forklift will hopefully end up as a representative 50s/60s model.

A couple of other shots as well

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#6 Jon Gwinnett

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 18:52

Sadly, Dad's cancer has meant he's been confined to hospital for several days, so no updates for a while.

However, He's home now, so watch this space!

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Posted 24 October 2009 - 19:19

Best wishes to your Dad!

inspirational modelling here!

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Posted 22 November 2009 - 15:42

I really like this - Any chance of a brief trackplan?

#9 Jon Gwinnett

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 14:32

Sadly Dad has lost his fight against the dreaded cancer and so the story of Chagford has come to a premature close. I would like to thank you all again for your kind words over the years - they meant a lot to him.

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 15:15

Very sorry to hear about your father, Jon, and my deepest sympathy to you and your family. Thanks very much for having shared the photos of his wonderful layout.
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 15:27

Jon, I am very sorry to hear about your Dad, my thoughts are with you and your family. My Father (an ex Railway Man) passed away last year, so I know how you must be feeling right now.
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#12 Jon Gwinnett

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Posted 02 June 2010 - 15:00

I need to think about disposing of Chagford. Its currently located in east Cumbria - does anyone know if there are any clubs or individuals in the area who might want an O gauge layout?

I've no idea what value if any, a layout such as this might have. Its designed to be "removable" but I suspect doing so would entail at the very least some cosmetic damage.

Mum and I would be keen for it to "go to a good home" if possible - the thought of carting it to the tip is pretty depressing!

The stock will be sold I expect - again, anyone interested feel free to Pm me.

Jon

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Posted 02 June 2010 - 15:58

I need to think about disposing of Chagford. Its currently located in east Cumbria - does anyone know if there are any clubs or individuals in the area who might want an O gauge layout?

I've no idea what value if any, a layout such as this might have. Its designed to be "removable" but I suspect doing so would entail at the very least some cosmetic damage.

Mum and I would be keen for it to "go to a good home" if possible - the thought of carting it to the tip is pretty depressing!

The stock will be sold I expect - again, anyone interested feel free to Pm me.

Jon



Jon

Sad that you will have to dispose of such an inspiring layout, which presumably you are unable to take yourself.

There are two "local" Gauge 0 Guild groups to you - Carlisle and Preston. Carlisle is at http://www.cdogg.org/ and Preston at http://www.prestonogauge.org.uk/
who may be able to help you. Alternatively if you are or your late father was a member of the guild, they have a very good executor and trustee service (more aimed at stock than layouts perhaps)

UK model shops lists 7 clubs (including the Carlisle 0 gauge group) at http://www.ukmodelsh...y/clubs/Cumbria but not all of them will have 0 gauge sections

Hope this helps

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Posted 02 June 2010 - 19:10

Jon

Sad that you will have to dispose of such an inspiring layout, which presumably you are unable to take yourself.

There are two "local" Gauge 0 Guild groups to you - Carlisle and Preston. Carlisle is at http://www.cdogg.org/ and Preston at http://www.prestonogauge.org.uk/
who may be able to help you. Alternatively if you are or your late father was a member of the guild, they have a very good executor and trustee service (more aimed at stock than layouts perhaps)

UK model shops lists 7 clubs (including the Carlisle 0 gauge group) at http://www.ukmodelsh...y/clubs/Cumbria but not all of them will have 0 gauge sections

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Thanks Paul

Yes, sadly I don't have enough room to take the layout or the bulk of the stock.

Jon

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 17:55

Some good news. It looks like Chagford may find a permenant home at Kirkby Stephen East, home of the Stainmore Railway. I think Dad would have been proud (and possibly overwhelmed).

When any details are settled I'll let you know.

Jon

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 18:06

Some good news. It looks like Chagford may find a permenant home at Kirkby Stephen East, home of the Stainmore Railway. I think Dad would have been proud (and possibly overwhelmed).

When any details are settled I'll let you know.

Jon



That's excellant news Jon, I will definately make an effort to see the layout once the move is confirmed.

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 18:55

"...the story of Chagford has come to a premature close..."
No, Jon, it hasn't. This layout will live on in the minds and hearts of people who've viewed and marvelled at it through this website. I only discovered it today and found myself totally captivated like many of the posts have expressed. I only clicked on it at first to see the backscene; ended up viewing every single aspect - including the sheep and tufts of grass! There's many people we modellers refer to for our inspiration, even if only in our minds; we ponder - 'how would so and so model this?', etc. That sort of thing. We'll now also have cause to stand back at our better efforts and hopefully think, 'Hmm, that's like Terry would do it.'
And, of course, we all owe you personally a debt of gratitude for bringing this beautiful piece of modelling to a wider and most appreciative modelling public. On behalf of us all, Thanks Jon.

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 19:03

As another GW modeller (who's only just caught up with this thread) I hope that the pain of losing your Dad is getting more bearable. And that his layout is going where others can appreciate it is both a tribute to his skill and his memory.

I've just been going through the photos again - I caught myself identifying views from my childhood.

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 19:50

It is great to know that Chagford has found a new home . In my eyes it is one of the great layouts - up there with the very best such as Buckingham and Berrow .

On a personal level it has been a great source of inspiration and encouragement as suffering from the same medical problem as your Dad , with the same prognosis, on a number of occasions when feeling down it has restored my spirits looking at the photos as although in a different scale my interest in the subject matter is very similar.

So thank you for sharing it with us.

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 20:35

Thank you. I never thought reading RMWEB would reduce me to tears... happy tears, but tears nonetheless.

Thank you all.

Jon
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Posted 05 July 2010 - 07:25

Looks like I need to start pushing the Wife towards the idea of a holiday near the Yorkshire Dales for 2011 (It looks like Chagford may find a permenant home at Kirkby Stephen East, home of the Stainmore Railway).
Jon I have enjoyed following this great peice of modelling and belated condolences to you and your family.
I feel you won't mind if I also wish "Wheeltapper" all the very best in his dispute with this illness. All I do know is that being positive helps with any illness,although that is not always easy.
Kind Regards,Derek.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 17:33

Afternoon everybody.
Is good to finally "log-in" here. I'm Jon's younger (and slightly less bald!) brother. Obviously Jon has shown me previously some of the interest (and amazing comments) my Fathers layout has caused, but it's only today that I've finally got myself on here to read the full "story".
My hobbies are in different areas (mainly cars and drums!), so although from a very young age I have totally appreciated my Dads skills in this area, I never really realised just how far-reaching his amazing railway has become. Its hard to put into words how much I/we appreciate all the kind words and comments, and its really great to know that the layout will be going to a place where other people can come and see it. It wouldn't have seemed right if it had not been kept as it is, a fitting memorial to our father.

As my brother says..... I never thought a website would reduce me to tears... but this one has.

Thank you.
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 18:02

slightly less bald!) brother.


Only slightly!

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 20:50

So sorry to read about your Dad. A wonderful inspiring layout. A thing of beauty.
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 21:26

Like others Jon, I've not kept as up to date with this as I should have. I'm sorry to hear about your news and that I've not mentioned it sooner. The layout is indeed a fine epitaph to your Dad, I'm sure it's going to a good home will be a source of comfort to you and Chris.
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