pete_mcfarlane Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) The Ian Kirk Southern coach kits (which were with Colin Ashby for many years) seem to have found their way to the Phoenix empire. https://www.phoenix-paints.co.uk/products/exkirk/exkirkmaunsell Whether they'll actually reappear is another matter of course. Edited July 5, 2017 by pete_mcfarlane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 This really does look some pretty relentless empire-building. Reminds me of the late 1980s when Chris Crawley Models (remember them?) was hoovering up just about any old range in sight.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I certainly hope so, I need a Bulleid Brake third to complete a three-set. Charlie at DC kits has 'a bundle' of Ashby SR kits on his counter, he was able to find one Bulleid brake for me and send it to Oz. Worth a try if you are looking for something specific? However, other than the restaurant car I thought Hornby had pretty much covered the Maunsell stock? Cheers from Oz, Peter C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Andy W Posted July 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2017 Y'know, if someone wanted to sell products into a specialist market, you'd think they'd proofread their webpages before making them live. "Bullied" coaches, indeed! Not just once but several times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Probably autocorrect. It happens to me all the time. If these do come to fruition then I would buy a few. I've already got some and would like to complete the sets and feel it would be better having coaches match rather than mixing Kirk and Hornby in the same set. The restaurant car would be especially welcome. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted July 5, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2017 On that basis I hope they hoover the ex Ian Rice etched products which Mainly Trains used to sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Kirk Bullied coaches were pretty nich. Namely, the 56ft all door sets. Not bad kits at all. I don't think he he ever made a restaurant vehicle kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 On that basis I hope they hoover the ex Ian Rice etched products which Mainly Trains used to sell. I found that quite a few of those etches were oversized for 4mm scale. The SR lamp irons in particular were massive, and would have been appropriate for S-gauge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted July 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 13, 2017 Kirk Bullied coaches were pretty nich. Namely, the 56ft all door sets. Not bad kits at all. I don't think he he ever made a restaurant vehicle kit. The Bulleids are 59ft, I have built a set and wouldn't mind doing another. He did do a Maunsell Restaurant car - I have one I'm in the course of altering into one of the BR conversions. I'd like a few more for other projects I have in mind. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) I built two of the Kirk Bulleids, but they used the Maunsell coach profile. I have a third one still to build, but am seriously considering using Comet brass sides instead and rebuilding the other two to match.I bought quite a few of the Maunsell kits many years ago; once again, I have built some but still have a few unmade ones. The Restaurant car is part-built and is probably the only one i will finish now, seeing as Hornby's Maunsells are far better than anything I can make, much as I enjoy the kit-building experience.I'm sure there must be a few other modellers around who have unmade Kirk kits still lying around, like me. Edited July 14, 2017 by SRman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
145 Squadron Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 The Bulleids are 59ft, I have built a set and wouldn't mind doing another. He did do a Maunsell Restaurant car - I have one I'm in the course of altering into one of the BR conversions. I'd like a few more for other projects I have in mind. John Here is a buffet conversion f the Kirk restaurant 1st I made some time ago. Have made several sets of Bulleid 'shortie' coaches using cheap Hornby Maunsels as donors which looked OK. The rebated window sections were very helpful in getting a flush glazed look. Tony 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 14, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 14, 2017 RIMG0432a.jpg Here is a buffet conversion f the Kirk restaurant 1st I made some time ago. Have made several sets of Bulleid 'shortie' coaches using cheap Hornby Maunsels as donors which looked OK. The rebated window sections were very helpful in getting a flush glazed look. Tony Looking VG Tony. What paint did you use if you don't mind me asking? Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 14, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) I built two of the Kirk Bulleids, but they used the Maunsell coach profile. I have a third one still to build, but am seriously considering using Comet brass sides instead and rebuilding the other two to match. I bought quite a few of the Maunsell kits many years ago; once again, I have built some but still have a few unmade ones. The Restaurant car is part-built and is probably the only one i will finish now, seeing as Hornby's Maunsells are far better than anything I can make, much as I enjoy the kit-building experience. I'm sure there must be a few other modellers around who have unmade Kirk kits still lying around, like me. Bill Bedford sides are worth a look for both Bulleids and Maunsells. OK so not all Diagrams are available immediately but I have used some BB Maunsell Dining vehicle sides and they are pretty smart. Phil Edited July 14, 2017 by Mallard60022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 RIMG0432a.jpg Here is a buffet conversion f the Kirk restaurant 1st I made some time ago. Have made several sets of Bulleid 'shortie' coaches using cheap Hornby Maunsels as donors which looked OK. The rebated window sections were very helpful in getting a flush glazed look. Tony Duh!!! Only I could get coach lengths wrong. Too much LMS coach building!!!! Nice restaurant car. I shall keep my eyes open for one of these. Rare as hen's teeth I realise, but you never know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 14, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 14, 2017 Duh!!! Only I could get coach lengths wrong. Too much LMS coach building!!!! Nice restaurant car. I shall keep my eyes open for one of these. Rare as hen's teeth I realise, but you never know. I reckon 'we' could get some sides printed as those 3D things are advancing so quickly. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pint of Adnams Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 The Ian Kirk Southern coach kits (which were with Colin Ashby for many years) seem to have found their way to the Phoenix empire. https://www.phoenix-paints.co.uk/products/exkirk/exkirkmaunsell Whether they'll actually reappear is another matter of course. Oh ye of little faith - there were plenty packaged up a la Kirk style and branded 'Ex-Kirk' Kits on the Phoenix stand at the Southwold show today. Just wish the same could happen to the ex-Kirk LNER kits... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingscotsmanfan Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 John Dutfield in Chelmsford has them as well. Speaking to Ken in there yesterday he was saying that if only the Kirk LNER stuff could be done too they'd sell loads of them... to me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just to confirm: I emailed Heather at John Dutfield and she confirmed they had the Bulleid 59' Brake and Maunsell Restaurant first in stock at 25GBP each, (plus others, these are what interested me). They have been put aside for me pending my UK visit in September. Great friendly service, Cheers from Oz, Peter C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted August 16, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 16, 2017 If Phoenix are selling the 4mm ones at £25 a pop then it could be worth getting someone to 3D print or Silhouette (spelling?) the Restaurant Car (mentioned earlier before I saw the price) as I think quite a few people would want one ot two of those (me included). I'm still reasonably happy to do a cut and shut job with Bill Bedford (Mousa Models) Sides and a Hornby donor. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
devonseasider Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 If Phoenix are selling the 4mm ones at £25 a pop then it could be worth getting someone to 3D print or Silhouette (spelling?) the Restaurant Car (mentioned earlier before I saw the price) as I think quite a few people would want one ot two of those (me included). I'm still reasonably happy to do a cut and shut job with Bill Bedford (Mousa Models) Sides and a Hornby donor. Phil Well, if you're offering - how many weeks' pocket money would I need? Too many, I guess, 'cos I've got to leave enough for my jubblies . . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 I've noticed that they now offer the sides (as individual mouldings as well, not just pairs). Some interesting EMU cut and shuts now become possibilities. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted August 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 17, 2017 Just to confirm: I emailed Heather at John Dutfield and she confirmed they had the Bulleid 59' Brake and Maunsell Restaurant first in stock at 25GBP each, (plus others, these are what interested me). They have been put aside for me pending my UK visit in September. Great friendly service, Cheers from Oz, Peter C. Just a big word of praise for heather at JD Models. She evn sent me a pic of the Kirks they have. It didn't include the Restaurant but she was going to look at some other stock in the store. How's that for service? Phil 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Just a big word of praise for heather at JD Models. She evn sent me a pic of the Kirks they have. It didn't include the Restaurant but she was going to look at some other stock in the store. How's that for service? Phil DCKits in Leeds have a box of SR Kirk Kits. Contact charlie@dckits.co.uk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwordsmith Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) Oh ye of little faith - there were plenty packaged up a la Kirk style and branded 'Ex-Kirk' Kits on the Phoenix stand at the Southwold show today. Just wish the same could happen to the ex-Kirk LNER kits... Not sure if it helps, but I have a whole rake of Kirk originals in Teak livery going spare which I'm up for disposing of. And they have a decent paint job -... Edited August 18, 2017 by bigwordsmith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted August 18, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 18, 2017 Not sure if it helps, but I have a whole rake of Kirk originals in Teak livery going spare which I'm up for disposing of. And they have a decent paint job -... IMG_0855.jpg IMG_0855.jpg Graham of Grantham may be interested? Philth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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