Mark Saunders Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 I acquired these photographs but have no information, can anyone identify the colliery that these wagons are at please? Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Mark, It might be helpful if the photos were scanned and posted separately to enable them to be enlarged to read the markings on the wagons. Gordon A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian keane Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 (edited) Looking at the bottom left most wagon it appears to say FILTER CAKE on the bottom most plank, was somebody trying to be funny or do I need glasses? Edited July 18, 2017 by Killian keane 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Looking at the bottom left most wagon it appears to say FILTER CAKE on the bottom most plank, was somebody trying to be funny or do I need glasses? Your eyes do not deceive you ; filter cake is the fine solid material that builds up on the filter elements in press filters at places like coal washeries. In this case, it would be a mixture of fine coal ('duff') and possibly the flotation oil from the washing process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 The white or yellow-painted corner plates on the wagons remind me of some ex-NCB wagons that are at the Midland Railway, at Butterley. I was told that they came from somewhere local to there but I can't remember where but these wagons could be from the same colliery, or at least the same area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted July 19, 2017 Author Share Posted July 19, 2017 Ruston Found this on the vintage carriage trust site, similar! http://www.ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org/ws/WagonInfo.asp?Ref=7822 http://www.ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org/ws/WagonInfo.asp?Ref=7823 Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ailg8048 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Wagons at Butterley probably came from Moor Green colliery, i remember that had lines full of them. Found this on Flickr - https://www.flickr.com/photos/glevumblues/8594042393 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 Found this on Flickr and it would appear to be Moor Green! https://www.flickr.com/photos/glevumblues/8598477620/in/photostream/ Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
£1.38 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 The twin arch bridge in the background in the original set of photos cannot be in the immediate vicinity of Moorgreen Colliery as the line crossed nearby roads etc on the level or on overbridges. The line to Langley Mill did go under the former Great Northern Erewash valley line, but I think that was a three arch metal girder bridge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted July 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 20, 2017 Found this on Flickr and it would appear to be Moor Green! https://www.flickr.com/photos/glevumblues/8598477620/in/photostream/ Mark Saunders Information on Moorgreen Colliery https://www.aditnow.co.uk/Album/Historic-Photographs-Of-Moorgreen-Colliery_23038/ Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted July 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 20, 2017 HI all, I said a couple of things to Mark when he sent me copies of the photos. Bridge style appears to be Midland One of the wagons - 720 appears to be an ex MR 7 plank with the MR markings faded but just visible. On the general subject of collieries... https://www.aditnow.co.uk Has loads of information available with maps if you register for an account. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted July 22, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2017 Hi all, A 'phone discussion with one of the guys who went round a lot of the colliery sites in the late 70's and early 80's with me may have been helpful. Back then we came to the opinion that the yellow ended wagons were from/at Castle Donnington power station. We did try at the time to do a site visit to Castle Donnington but were knocked back at the gate despite having CEGB letters confirming we could visit. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 Phil These are branded NCB rather than CEGB and as far as I know these wagons were in the style of NCB Midlands area! The only iu wagons I was aware of at Castle Donnington were tanks! Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted July 24, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 24, 2017 One of the wagons - 720 appears to be an ex MR 7 plank with the MR markings faded but just visible. Intriguing. The nearest match seems to be Midland D673, of which 9,150 were built 1913-22, so reasonably numerous. The style of the side door is right. But it's been altered at both ends. As built, the fixed end didn't have a diagonal piece of ironwork but rather a vertical piece half-way along. (Although this example is a D663A five plank wagon with fixed ends both ends, it illustrates the arrangement.) The end door hinge and locking bar are of a different pattern, as are the buffers guides with the (RCH?) projection to hold the end floor boards in place. Replacement (LMS?) oil axleboxes. It's tempting to suggest that the only original Midland feature is the letter M but even that is one plank too high up the side compared to photos of D673 wagons in Essery's Midland Wagons! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 I hazard a guess that they are East or North Midlands rather than West Midlands. Many of the West Midlands internal users seem to have carried the large St Andrews Cross on the bodyside Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 From memory internal user wagons in the NCB South Notts District (which included Moorgreen) had yellow painted corner plates. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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