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#751 Il Grifone

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 09:20

Hi Garry,

 

BR Standards were designed for 13' 2" max height to fit the reduced loading gauge of inferior railways :) The 3MT tank used a slightly shortened version of the GWR no. 2 boiler, but i don't remember the diameter off hand.

 

From the drawing it can be seen that Tri-ang's 4mm model is too long. Why they did this when they produced a new chassis block just for the model I don't know. I can understand the coupled wheelbase using the existing coupling rods, but that only accounts for a couple of millimetres or so (7' 9" + 8' 3" rather than 7' 7" + 7' 9"). The pony trucks are far too long. I'll have to see if shortening one is feasible without too much hassle. (I know leave well alone....)

 

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 19:05

Well that looks like £35 well spent - I know where next weeks food money will go ! 

 

Mine will be black and the chassis could be fun, the jinty does look the part. Will have to think on how to adapt some Worsely works etched valve gear and castle rods - but sure Garry will be miles ahead of mine.

 

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 19:30

Well that looks like £35 well spent - I know where next weeks food money will go ! 

 

Mine will be black and the chassis could be fun, the jinty does look the part. Will have to think on how to adapt some Worsely works etched valve gear and castle rods - but sure Garry will be miles ahead of mine.

 

Robert  

I hope you don't go hungry Robert.

 

I bought this tank, an A5 and a B1. The B1 may need a chassis building for it due to a limited gap in the footplate, the A5 might accept a Tri-ang chassis but this tank is the best of the lot. I know the wheels may no be correct but as Tri-ang only made two sizes and Romfords are rare and expensive Jinty wheels will do.  At the moment I am just going to use Castle slide bars etc as I am doing on the Stanier tank and if all goes well I may look at making some etched pieces for other parts.

 

A B16 and J39 I think are next on the cards for 3D printing along with a couple of matching tenders.  I have been told there is very little space inside the J39 and its designer is looking at using a motor in the tender to drive the loco.

 

Garry



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Posted 13 September 2018 - 21:45

Garry, 

Worst case and depending on layout a powered parcels coach  might give a solution. or you use it to "pull" a "failed" dmu.

Tender chassis would end up like a union mills but it could help locos like the 2P / 4P by having two motors or having loco as a light weight pushalong with pickups american style.  

 

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 23:21

I have done this the wrong way round really by painting and lining before I have even modified or fixed a chassis but I could not resist seeing it nearly completed. Just need to drill for the handrail pins, varnish and then fit the handrails. After that time to sort out the chassis, or, get on with the Stanier tank if the buffers come for it.

Robert, mine will not get a tender drive but might need a fair bit of bodywork mods to sort something out, thats if the body looks okay when it is finished.

Garry

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Posted 14 September 2018 - 06:04

Garry ,

That looks great ex-works before first ever steaming.  Hope chassis works out ok - shame for her to become a shed queen!



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Posted 16 September 2018 - 07:05

While messing around with the Standard 3 and Stanier tanks I have also been assembling and painting another BEC brush Type 4 which is nearing completion.

Garry

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Posted 16 September 2018 - 23:34

While putting transfers on the two Brush 4's I decided to paint the Stanier tank and line it out. I had run out of primer so had to put satin straight onto the whitemetal which should be fine. The buffer beams need to be done then varnished. The buffers are Tri-ang A1A's as the kit ones did not look too good.

Having looked at this and the standard 3 tank with their chassis's in situ I think I may get some etched valve gear parts made and include the A3, V2 etc.

Garry

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 07:53

Hi Garry,

 

Inspiring!

I lettered a couple of Dublo N2s the other day (with 'Pressfix'. Maybe my mistake - it doesn't like being shifted once applied). One LNER 9563 and the other BR 69503. I'll have to work on them again as the numbers aren't quite straight.... Needing glasses for close work doesn't help either.

 

David

 

EDIT for hitting the wrong key!


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Posted 17 September 2018 - 08:34

Hi Garry'

 

Inspiring!

I lettered a couple of Dublo N2s the other day (with 'Pressfix'. Maybe my mistake - it doesn't like being shifted once applied). One LNER 9563 and the other BR 69503. I'll have to work on them again as the numbers aren't quite straight.... Needing glasses for close work doesn't help either.

 

David

Thanks David,

 

I know what you mean about the Pressfix transfers, that was the recent issue around my Autocoach that I had to draw and transfer over them as I could not get them off.  I am not a Pressfix lover but at times they are the only option as some waterslide ones show too much carrier film which is not always hidden under varnish.  Even these Fox ones have at times an alignment issue where the grey and red are at different spaces/widths to the next piece, other times it is me :-(.

 

I have had to wear glasses for a long time now and it is a pain the rear, my numbers are not often straight or equally spaced.  At least with waterslide ones you can re-wet within a couple of minutes to move.

 

My glasses are that strong that a door frame looks curved so it does not help sighting lining and numbers up but I have to put up with it these days.

 

Garry 


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Posted 17 September 2018 - 21:03

A productive day with brush and spray can. The Brush 4's are completed paint wise with D1725 in gloss and the other in Matt. I need to source some buffer as D 1786 did not have any when I bought it. I think I am going to move the couplings back a couple of mm's as the bogie itself cannot go further back. The roofs are a tight fit so not fully down yet, one is in diesel roof grey the other in primer as no roof grey left.

 

The Standard tank has its firebox bands in place and is now ex works although I may put satin or matt on the black, then fit some handrails.

 

The Stanier had its buffer beams painted and is finished in satin.

 

One of the Standard 5,s got a satin smokebox, footplate and roof to go with its ex works boiler.  Unfortunately the satin does not show much difference but I may leave it as it was a pain masking out, but who knows?  The rear two are yet to be stripped and painted although the rear one has been done well by its previous owner but the right hand side tender crest faces backwards (as it should be once BR were told off by the Heraldic association for having left and right version, I just prefer both facing forwards. One will be in green as per the front one.  This is a little high as the previous owner did not fit the chassis correctly so needs some work doing to it. For some reason he also put the plastic valve gear support the wrong way around gluing the rods to it, hopefully easily to rectify.  There is another of these awaiting a chimney before starting to paint and that should be enough.

 

Just bought a 3D printed J39 and hopefully it will be as good as the Standard 3 tank.

 

Garry

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 21:20

How many std 5s - The shed master at Bath Green park will  spin with envy ! - they do look good.

 

I might have some buffers for the Brush 4 !

 

I look forward to valve gear developments.   



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Posted 17 September 2018 - 21:59

Brush type 4s always had green roofs in that livery, not grey.



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Posted 17 September 2018 - 22:03

Brush type 4s always had green roofs in that livery, not grey.


Its modellers licence Bernard, I did not like the green roofs they did not give them any appeal to me.

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 22:17

How many std 5s - The shed master at Bath Green park will spin with envy ! - they do look good.

I might have some buffers for the Brush 4 !

I look forward to valve gear developments.


The 6 here plus one more Robert. The one not finished yet may get a high sided tender although I do have a few Britannia tenders spare, who knows I may do another 9F (Evening Star?).

The valve gear will be a while and basically a Tri-ang design. With the two locos here I have re shaped the Castle slidebars but then thought about lowering the mounting plate position. This would enable an etched one to be flat on the top and not require the body to have a wide slot for them to fit into and be bent. The return cranks would have to be soldered onto the crank pin but I guess that is normal procedure. As I will be doing slightly different ones for these two I may as well look at some for the A3 and V2 on the same etch.

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Posted 18 September 2018 - 09:45

Its modellers licence Bernard, I did not like the green roofs they did not give them any appeal to me.

Garry

Fair enough, Garry! :imsohappy: