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When carrying wartime black wasn't it common practice for the tender to be marked up N E, rather than LNER?

 

Excellent model though and I think all locos look great in black.

 

Nik

Some did and some didn't.

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Some did and some didn't.

As there was no labour available to clean them,aesthetic judgement was suspended for a good many years during and after the war.Frankly the only concern was whether or not there was a train running....in whatever colour or condition,so comments such as this are irrelevant.

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I made a post-war black Flying Scotsman 1946 number 502 from an A3 chassis and tender, a lot of black brush paint and a right-hand-drive body. Humbrol satin black proved to be rather inconsistent, but not too bad.

 

My pic is edited, I hope you don't mind. I like your 4472 conversion!

 

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I must admit she should have had N E on tender & 103 & 502 on cab side.

Thank to all above for your kind words. Also thank you to Edward at Aspire Models

for work done on Flying Scotsman & also painting the green wheels black.

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103 and 502 on the cabsides are a preservation era thing when it was a double chimney A3.

 

Painted unlined black - 3/4/1943

 

Renumbered to 502  - 21/1/1946

Renumbered to 103  - 5/5/1946

 

Rebuilt as an A3 and repainted lined green -  4/1/1947 

 

So yours is correct for 1943 to 1946. I take it the tender is a non corridor version as from 1938 it had a Streamlined Non Corridor tender No 5640. 

 

 

Contrary to popular belief they were still kept relatively clean, even in wartime. It wasn't like the 1960s when everything was neglected. Plenty of photographic and film evidence of cleanish engines, some in colour. Even the WDs were kept clean. Look at the book Big Four In Colour 1935 - 1950 by David Jenkinson for evidence.

 

 

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103 and 502 on the cabsides are a preservation era thing when it was a double chimney A3.

 

Painted unlined black - 3/4/1943

 

Renumbered to 502  - 21/1/1946

Renumbered to 103  - 5/5/1946

 

Rebuilt as an A3 and repainted lined green -  4/1/1947 

 

So yours is correct for 1943 to 1946. I take it the tender is a non corridor version as from 1938 it had a Streamlined Non Corridor tender No 5640. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Contrary to popular belief they were still kept relatively clean, even in wartime. It wasn't like the 1960s when everything was neglected. Plenty of photographic and film evidence of cleanish engines, some in colour. Even the WDs were kept clean. Look at the book Big Four In Colour 1935 - 1950 by David Jenkinson for evidence.

 

 

Jason

Thank for the information Jason, this is the RailRoad version R3086 with corridor tender.

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I believe it was painted black for when it was doing test runs before it was unveiled properly in it's finished condition. I think they put the two different numbers on it for photographers.

 

It's quite a common occurrence now. They ran Tornado in grey with the website address on the tender and 35018 British India Line is currently running about in black as 98818 Bodmin with a BR crest facing the wrong way.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V7vQ7fRhI4

 

 

 

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