DonnyRailMan Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) My latest War Time Black loco is Class A1 Flying Scotsman. Edited August 18, 2017 by DonnyRailMan 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted August 18, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 18, 2017 Wow very nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I do love the Scotsman in wartime black, Hmmm could I get away with it carrying troops from the north down through Sussex to Dover? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spannerman Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 When carrying wartime black wasn't it common practice for the tender to be marked up N E, rather than LNER? Excellent model though and I think all locos look great in black. Nik Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted August 18, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 18, 2017 When carrying wartime black wasn't it common practice for the tender to be marked up N E, rather than LNER? Excellent model though and I think all locos look great in black. Nik Some did and some didn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted August 18, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 18, 2017 When carrying wartime black wasn't it common practice for the tender to be marked up N E, rather than LNER? Excellent model though and I think all locos look great in black. Nik The NE or LNER motif varied . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted August 18, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 18, 2017 Some did and some didn't. As there was no labour available to clean them,aesthetic judgement was suspended for a good many years during and after the war.Frankly the only concern was whether or not there was a train running....in whatever colour or condition,so comments such as this are irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I made a post-war black Flying Scotsman 1946 number 502 from an A3 chassis and tender, a lot of black brush paint and a right-hand-drive body. Humbrol satin black proved to be rather inconsistent, but not too bad. My pic is edited, I hope you don't mind. I like your 4472 conversion! Cheers, 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyRailMan Posted August 19, 2017 Author Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) I must admit she should have had N E on tender & 103 & 502 on cab side. Thank to all above for your kind words. Also thank you to Edward at Aspire Models for work done on Flying Scotsman & also painting the green wheels black. Edited August 19, 2017 by DonnyRailMan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 103 and 502 on the cabsides are a preservation era thing when it was a double chimney A3. Painted unlined black - 3/4/1943 Renumbered to 502 - 21/1/1946 Renumbered to 103 - 5/5/1946 Rebuilt as an A3 and repainted lined green - 4/1/1947 So yours is correct for 1943 to 1946. I take it the tender is a non corridor version as from 1938 it had a Streamlined Non Corridor tender No 5640. Contrary to popular belief they were still kept relatively clean, even in wartime. It wasn't like the 1960s when everything was neglected. Plenty of photographic and film evidence of cleanish engines, some in colour. Even the WDs were kept clean. Look at the book Big Four In Colour 1935 - 1950 by David Jenkinson for evidence. Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyRailMan Posted August 19, 2017 Author Share Posted August 19, 2017 103 and 502 on the cabsides are a preservation era thing when it was a double chimney A3. Painted unlined black - 3/4/1943 Renumbered to 502 - 21/1/1946 Renumbered to 103 - 5/5/1946 Rebuilt as an A3 and repainted lined green - 4/1/1947 So yours is correct for 1943 to 1946. I take it the tender is a non corridor version as from 1938 it had a Streamlined Non Corridor tender No 5640. Contrary to popular belief they were still kept relatively clean, even in wartime. It wasn't like the 1960s when everything was neglected. Plenty of photographic and film evidence of cleanish engines, some in colour. Even the WDs were kept clean. Look at the book Big Four In Colour 1935 - 1950 by David Jenkinson for evidence. Jason Thank for the information Jason, this is the RailRoad version R3086 with corridor tender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyRailMan Posted August 21, 2017 Author Share Posted August 21, 2017 War Time Black Flying Scotsman in black & white & in sepia 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted August 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 21, 2017 I do love the Scotsman in wartime black, Hmmm could I get away with it carrying troops from the north down through Sussex to Dover? Oxford, perhaps? Stationmaster might provide an answer or two. Ian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyRailMan Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 What was the idea of putting 103 & 502 on cab sides anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I believe it was painted black for when it was doing test runs before it was unveiled properly in it's finished condition. I think they put the two different numbers on it for photographers. It's quite a common occurrence now. They ran Tornado in grey with the website address on the tender and 35018 British India Line is currently running about in black as 98818 Bodmin with a BR crest facing the wrong way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V7vQ7fRhI4 Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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