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Hi I am scratchbuilding a 4LAV in 7mm and I wonder if anyone can advise on the appearance of the corridor partition on the trailer composite (lav). I read somewhere that there were double sliding doors to the compartments. With the high corridor windows the partition detail is going to be quite visible so I would like to get this bit right. Thanks, Kubes

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Certainly some, at least, of the original Brighton main line electric stock had double sliding doors separating the corridor from the compartments so it is certainly a possibility that the original LAV sets had them. Unfortunately, I reckon that it is probably at least 60 years since I last travelled in a 4-LAV set and I just can't remember for certain.

 

It is just possible that the double doors were only provided for 1st class compartments (which IIRC were subsequently reduced in number in both trailer vehicles).

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Certainly some, at least, of the original Brighton main line electric stock had double sliding doors separating the corridor from the compartments so it is certainly a possibility that the original LAV sets had them. Unfortunately, I reckon that it is probably at least 60 years since I last travelled in a 4-LAV set and I just can't remember for certain.

 

It is just possible that the double doors were only provided for 1st class compartments (which IIRC were subsequently reduced in number in both trailer vehicles).

 

Certainly some, at least, of the original Brighton main line electric stock had double sliding doors separating the corridor from the compartments so it is certainly a possibility that the original LAV sets had them. Unfortunately, I reckon that it is probably at least 60 years since I last travelled in a 4-LAV set and I just can't remember for certain.

 

It is just possible that the double doors were only provided for 1st class compartments (which IIRC were subsequently reduced in number in both trailer vehicles).

According to Mike King's drawing all eight compartments in the TCL had double sliding doors.  Also, as built, there was a partition in the corridor separating the five 1st comp'ts from the three 3rd class.  This was removed in the 1950s.   The TCL remained 5 x 1st/3 x 3rd (later 2nd) to the end but the TC which was built as 5 x 1st/4 x 3rd ended up as 2 x 1st/7 x 3rd (2nd).

 

Chris Knowles-Thomas

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Thank you both for your advice. I shall check out the Mike King drawings. I only wish he had published them in a book similar to his superb tome on Southern loco hauled stock. Sadly I fear that another lesser production has ruined the market for a book of EMU drawings. Kubes

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Thank you both for your advice. I shall check out the Mike King drawings. I only wish he had published them in a book similar to his superb tome on Southern loco hauled stock. Sadly I fear that another lesser production has ruined the market for a book of EMU drawings. Kubes

I shall ask Mike next time our paths cross if there's any possibility of his doing an EMU book - it would certainly be an improvement on a certain book we won't mention.  At present Ian Allan was to have brought out his book on 'steam' stock other than Maunsell, Bulleid and Pull-Push.  Fingers crossed it eventually appears under the Crecy imprint. 

 

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I shall ask Mike next time our paths cross if there's any possibility of his doing an EMU book - it would certainly be an improvement on a certain book we won't mention.  At present Ian Allan was to have brought out his book on 'steam' stock other than Maunsell, Bulleid and Pull-Push.  Fingers crossed it eventually appears under the Crecy imprint. 

 

Chris Knowles-Thomas

An EMU book would be great.

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