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#26 2996 Victor

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Posted 28 November 2017 - 16:58

So another two Class D dropside wagons and a Class E well wagon have arrived in Dundas kit form  :)

 

Sadly, the first two Ds remain unfinished, awaiting better magnification to aid my ever-lengthening eyesight!


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Posted 28 December 2017 - 13:02

Just a quick update - the baseboards have arrived in kit form from Grainge & Hodder, although they're still parcelled up! A job for the New Year.....


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Posted 11 January 2018 - 22:41

Hi, Victor,
I too realised my eye/hand co-ordination is not what I hoped it would be for painting steel strapping etc, so now I use artist quality waterproof gel pens. They make painting cab window rims and the odd handwheel or clack easier too as they come in metallic colours too.

Watching with interest,

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Posted 15 January 2018 - 16:54

Hi, Victor,
I too realised my eye/hand co-ordination is not what I hoped it would be for painting steel strapping etc, so now I use artist quality waterproof gel pens. They make painting cab window rims and the odd handwheel or clack easier too as they come in metallic colours too.

Watching with interest,

Doug

 

 

Hi Doug,

 

thanks for your pointer there - I'll have to look out for some of those as I really need to get some productive modelling done.....The illuminated magnifier has arrived and has been suitably equipped with AAA batteries, so fingers crossed!

 

Cheers,

 

Mark


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Posted 25 January 2018 - 10:19

Not much to report, other than I've decided that I'm not entirely happy with the shade of grey I've use on the first two D Class wagons. I've ordered a couple of aerosols of Tamiya AS-11 RAF Medium Sea Grey, which should hopefully be the ticket!

 

I'll post a couple of pics when I've had a chance to try it out.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark



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Posted 31 March 2018 - 09:08

No progress at all, in fact a backward step, really.

The "new" shade of grey certainly looks the part, so all good there.

However, I'm still struggling to pick out the ironwork. Now that I've got decent magnification, I can see what I'm doing, and the paintbrush is steady.

The problem seems to be getting the correct quantity of paint on said brush to allow it to flow out and around the bolt head detail without running irregularly over the edges of the "strapping".

Frustrated does not describe it!!!

I'm going to try spraying overall a darker grey shade to represent weathered black for the ironwork, and the washing light grey over the wooden components, and see if that gives a better outcome.

I don't fancy shelling out £25 each for the Bachmann versions!

Back to the drawing board.....
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Posted 10 April 2018 - 12:14

A small amount of progress has occurred, with the Dundas WD Class E Bogie Wagon taking shape nicely. Here's the main body of the wagon, visually surprisingly different to the Class D:

 

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Plus the bogies:

 

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The brake wheels are stolen from a Tichy Train Group sprue as they're a bit finer than the Dundas items, and the brake stands themselves are brass pins rather than the flimsy plastic rod supplied, in the hope of increasing their resilience! A little extra brake gear detail will be added and the pins cut to length.

 

Here are another pair of bogies for one of the long-suffering Class Ds:

 

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And their brake wheels (plus one that belongs to one of my HO AC&F 40' Flat Cars!):

 

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Onward and upward.....

 

Cheers for now,

 

Mark


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Posted 10 April 2018 - 13:37

Now due for release sometime between April and May.....

 

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 08:37

The old conundrum of track is rumbling on.....I spotted this whilst trawling the interweb:

 

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Left to right, it shows HO, HOn30 and N track. The HOn30 track looks quite presentable, all things being equal, but I can't seem to discover who the manufacturer is.

 

I'm becoming more and more disillusioned with PECO track. Yes, I know its pretty robust, and as far as running is concerned, it seems to be about the best that RTR can offer. But their OO9 track just looks too twee and the weight of the rails is far too heavy for the majority of UK narrow gauge lines, which is why I was looking at their Code 55 N track. But again there are drawbacks, not least the sleeper size and spacing which to be honest doesn't look right even for N scale standard gauge. And of course, to build in the robustness, the rail isn't actually flat bottom:

 

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Apologies for the blurriness of the photograph, but it shows the extra "bit" on the base of the rail that sits in a moulded channel in the sleeper base, which would make it impossible to re-sleeper.

 

In the meantime, a visit over the weekend to WD Models in Chesterfield - great shop! - found this little item falling into my shopping bag:

 

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Yes, I've succumbed to the lure of Bachmann's Class D..... I have to say I'm really rather impressed with the quality, but the price means it'll probably remain a one-off among the Dundas kits! Shame about the track  :D

 

Cheers for now,

 

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 10:33

The track in the middle looks like Micro Engineering, I didn't know they did 9mm track. They do 10.5mm track in code 70 & 55 rail. Another option is Atlas code 55 N gauge track, unlike Peco it actually is code 55 rail, but you still have the problem of short sleepers.

I find the Peco 009 mainline track ok, if you want finer you are probably going to have to make your own. C&L sell code 40 & 55 rail


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Posted 16 April 2018 - 20:26

One option is to remove alternate sleepers from the N gauge code 55 but the thin sleepers will make it look like Hudson sectional track which is not really what you are after. I like how the rest of it is going anyway.

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 11:55

The track in the middle looks like Micro Engineering, I didn't know they did 9mm track. They do 10.5mm track in code 70 & 55 rail. Another option is Atlas code 55 N gauge track, unlike Peco it actually is code 55 rail, but you still have the problem of short sleepers.

I find the Peco 009 mainline track ok, if you want finer you are probably going to have to make your own. C&L sell code 40 & 55 rail

 

Neil - thanks!

 

I thought the same, the sleepers (ties?) do have a slightly rough-and-ready look to them like a toned-down version of PECO crazy track which I'm not keen on, but the overall appearance is pretty good. However, a little more digging seems to suggest that ME did do HOn30 (9mm gauge) track, but that it's been discontinued.....

 

I've been increasingly thinking that I may have to build my own track, which I'm actually quite keen to do although it's not something I've done before, but I'm more than a little apprehensive about building pointwork from scratch. The assymetric 3-way point is fairly fundamental to the compactness of the layout, but I'm leaning toward a slight redesign so that I could perhaps make use of point kits.

 

ME rail is available from a few places in the UK, along with their spikes. I guess I'd have to cut my own sleepers from stripwood, which wouldn't be an issue, or I could C&L as you've suggested, presumably with copper-clad sleeper strip

 

One option is to remove alternate sleepers from the N gauge code 55 but the thin sleepers will make it look like Hudson sectional track which is not really what you are after. I like how the rest of it is going anyway.

 

OO9MM - thanks for your kind comment.

 

The biggest issue with the Code 55 PECO rail is that its not really Code 55 flat-bottomed rail. I suppose the Atlas track is an option, and I did consider taking out every other sleeper, but as you say, the overall look would be Hudson-esque. I'm not ready to start track-laying yet, so I can consider my options for a little longer!



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Posted 29 April 2018 - 20:30

No progress to report, other than re-linking the photographs in this thread - it's not even as if they were on Photobucket!!!  :D



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Posted 04 May 2018 - 08:38

Now due for release sometime between April and May.....

 

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.....and now June. Possibly.....?

 

:(  :(  :( 


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Posted 04 May 2018 - 11:54

.....and now June. Possibly.....?

 

:(  :(  :(

 

Bachmann said they are definitely on the way, so I would be very surprised if there is another delay. Keeping fingers crossed anyway! :)

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 07:18

A minor frustration.....

The Dundas WD wagon bogies are nice mouldings, but are quite basic when comes to the brake gear, just the stand/wheel and shoes.

The linkage at the base of the stand is quite visible, so I wanted to add a vee hanger, rocking lever and the barrel arrangement at the base of the handwheel.

All straightforward to do in evergreen strip and rod, and accomplished easily enough. Except that it occupies space required by one of the wheels.

Now, the brake stands are positioned according to the kit instructions, but it seems like they need to be significantly further outboard.

Those Bachmann RTR wagons are looking increasingly attractive, despite being twice the price of the kits!

Cheers for now!

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 17:53

The Bachmann wagons are superb in every respect! More expensive, yes, but well worth the price. :)

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Posted 21 May 2018 - 12:02

The Bachmann wagons are superb in every respect! More expensive, yes, but well worth the price. :)

Alex

 

Hi Alex,

 

I absolutely agree! I see that Bachmann are releasing them in early livery, which although seemingly unweathered adds a bit of scope for "individualising" them, always a bonus when almost the entire fleet will consist of otherwise identical wagons!

 

I'm quite frustrated with the Dundas kits, which is quite a shame. I can't fault the mouldings or the way the kits go together as a whole, although as I mentioned above I think the brake gear could have been done a little better. They just don't seem to work for me.....so although the Bachmann wagons are more expensive to buy, they'll be more economic than a stack of abandoned half-built kits.

 

Which is strange, as I've been building wagon kits for 35+ years from all manner of manufacturers. I put an old CooperCraft GWR O4 kit together on Saturday afternoon with no trouble whatsoever, and the American-made HO-scale injection-moulded flat cars and wood "craftsman" kits for my US logging project have been great to build, and they are far, far more detailed and complex!

 

So as far as my Ashover project goes, I guess I'll be RTR-ing it after all!

 

Cheers,

 

Mark


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Posted 21 May 2018 - 12:33

So as far as my Ashover project goes, I guess I'll be RTR-ing it after all!

 

Nothing wrong with that, especially given the quality of the RTR items! ;)

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Posted 21 May 2018 - 14:52

I see that Bachmann are releasing them in early livery.....

 

But not it seems, according to Hattons' website, until May/June 2019  :( Ho hum! I do have several of Old Time Workshop's ALR decal sets, so whether there is scope for re-lettering the Nocton Estates version.....

 

Hmmmm!  :unsure:

 

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Posted Today, 10:22

Old Time Workshop's ALR decal sets, so whether there is scope for re-lettering the Nocton Estates version.....

 

 

Thinking a bit more about re-lettering the Nocton Estates wagons, does anyone have any experience of removing the running numbers on Bachmann RTR wagons? Is it possible without destroying the entire paint job???

 

Cheers,

 

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