Peter Kazmierczak Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 (edited) Should be at Waterloo tomorrow (plat 21) around noon with 444040. Associated stock moves for the unit: 21.35 (Sun) Northam Depot - Wimbledon Park Depot 10.56 (Mon) Wimbledon Park Depot - Waterloo (via East Putney) At Waterloo platform 21 11.37-12.42 12.42 (Mon) Waterloo - Northam Depot (via Richmond) Edited September 3, 2017 by Peter Kazmierczak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted September 3, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 3, 2017 Apple, olive or malachite? Nice idea, but...... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivegreen Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I suppose salmon over brown would be out of the question in the 21st century… I'm rather expecting another of those ghastly jazzy multicoloured patterns….sincerely hope I'm wrong! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted September 3, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 3, 2017 I suppose salmon over brown would be out of the question in the 21st century… I'm rather expecting another of those ghastly jazzy multicoloured patterns….sincerely hope I'm wrong! With the need for 'accessible' liveries it would be, but they could have salmon bodysides with brown doors as a contrasting colour! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 Apart from a photo-shopped image that appeared on the internet, SWR have been literally keeping their new livery under-wraps. Note that the run up to London tonight takes place in the dark! Judging by the colours on their timetable leaflets and website, black or blue (with diagonal stripes) seems a common theme, with maybe a contrasting fawn colour for the doors. We'll find out tomorrow. Just hope it's more cheerful than the sombre GWR green which, in most light, just seems so drab. As Ian says above, Malachite green (with perhaps sunshine yellow lettering and doors of that colour), might've been nice. Wonder if it'll be a one-size-fits-all livery, or will the outer and inner suburban units have a different scheme? Probably the former, otherwise surely they'd have more units on show tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted September 3, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 3, 2017 No, it's two tone grey. The official artists impression is on the other thread. The word you are looking for is bland... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted September 3, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 3, 2017 That's a shame. The old SWT was one of the nicest of the Franchises in all three versions . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 White seems to be in fashion these days, for both trains and cars. Don't really see the merit myself, but they didn't ask me. It'll probably be smartly forgettable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted September 3, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 3, 2017 A picture just appeared on Facebook of the real thing, looks even more dreary than the artists impression!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 Here's a video of it passing Eastleigh. Better than I thought it might be. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 (edited) Full detals .............................. During a stop at Basing tonight - I just happened to be getting off 10 mins earlier on the way home - I wasn't sad enough to go out especially - just me and about a dozen SWT fellas there ............. The dark colour is green / blue / dark grey - who can tell ?????? The light colour is alternate grey diagonal stripes ................... it could have been worse but still pretty appalling - bland as f*ck ......... going to look marvellous in tomorrow's drizzle It ain't great I have a very crap phone ........... South Western Railways Launch at London Waterloo. Featuring 444040 in the new SWR livery. Sunday 03/09/17 5Z40 STP 21:35 Northam C.S.D. to Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs Northam C.S.D. 2135 Northam Sig. E842 2141-2150 Northam Jn 2151 St Denys 2152 Southampton Airport Parkwy 2155 Eastleigh 2157 Shawford 2200 Winchester 2202 Wallers Ash Loop 2207 Worting Jn 2215 Basingstoke 2219 Fleet 2235 Farnborough (Main) 2241 Woking Jn 2247 Woking 2248-2250 Weybridge 2259 Hampton Court Jn. 2304 Surbiton 2305 New Malden 2307 Wimbledon West Jn 2313 Wimbledon 2314 Wimbledon Park C.S.D. 2315-2315 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs 2328 Monday 04/09/17 3Z00 10:56 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to London Waterloo Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs 1056 Wimbledon Park C.S.D. 1113-1114 Wimbledon Park 1116 East Putney 1120 Point Pleasant Jn 1124 Clapham Junction 1127 West London Jn 1129 Queenstown Rd.(Battersea) 1129 Nine Elms Jn 1130 London Waterloo 1137 Booked for platform 21. 3Z01 12:42 London Waterloo to Northam C.S.D. London Waterloo 1242 Nine Elms Jn 1248 Queenstown Rd.(Battersea) 1249 Clapham Junction 1251 Barnes 1255 Richmond 1301 Twickenham 1306 Whitton Jn 1308 Feltham Jn 1309 Feltham 1310 Staines 1318 Virginia Water 1328 Addlestone Jn 1339 Byfleet & New Haw 1356 Woking 1402-1404 Woking Jn 1405 Pirbright Jn 1411 Farnborough (Main) 1417 Fleet 1423 Basingstoke 1434 Worting Jn 1438 Wallers Ash Loop 1448-1503 Winchester 1510 Shawford Jn 1512 Eastleigh 1515 St Denys 1522 Northam Depot Recept Line 1525 Northam C.S.D. 1540 Edited September 3, 2017 by Southernman46 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted September 4, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 4, 2017 It was bound to be seen by someone despite it coming up under cover of darkness. A clip of it (leaving Northam?) was posted on the SEG website fairly soon after it broke cover. My first impression is that the livery has been designed by someone having a colour-vision disorder (it's essentially shades of grey) with that singularly amateur-looking logo even worse when so big. I hope, if it stops raining, to be at Southfields then somewhere in the Twickenham area to record the up and return moves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted September 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2017 Good grief. It's drab as hell when it's new. What will it look like when the shine starts to go? Almost as bad as the GW "Invisible Green". Seriously hope they have a rethink on this. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 A photo here... https://www.flickr.com/photos/114149336@N07/36173877124/in/datetaken-public/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2750Papyrus Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Looks as if they are already weathered - light dirt on the upper half and dark dirt below...../ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted September 4, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 4, 2017 Soon find out the reality. It's a grey, damp morning for the launch of a grey livery. And there are significant delays at Waterloo - again. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 . The video taken at Eastleigh is rather cruel, the new livery looks drab and unimaginative against the "old" one. Shame. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted September 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2017 Looks like the old Wrexham and Shropshire livery! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottest Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 At first glance I thought I was looking at the grey undercoat once used for the (monochrome) publicity photo shoots of new-builds, but seemingly not. The shades of Scott and Scotter assure me that there is much turning in unquiet graves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 It's hard to see ways in which this is an improvement over the old Stagecoach white. Still it's not the most important thing in the world, really. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim.snowdon Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 It looks more like a tryout on half a carriage just to see what it looks like. And, for the bit that they have done, fair enough to put the South West Trains branding below the window line, but to then repeat the logo large size behind the cab end is a bit OTT and tasteless. At least it isn't a big flying f logo, but it's a bit too "in your face". Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) So in terms of local railway photography I'm now sandwiched between a line that can't cut trees down for toffee and is also camouflaging it's trains to fit in and a line that is re-livering it's trains to look like mobile rain clouds - marvellous !! Was offered a SWR free ice-cream at Basing on Saturday after I'd been turfed off my perfectly good on-time but terminating short (AGAIN !!!!) WOE service as NR were busy cocking up the signalling between there and Woking - I turned and puffed my best glowering and scything aggrieved passenger face ready to let rip but had to quickly remember that I was not only in uniform but also the person doing the offering was small, female and looked about 13 and it would have been like kicking a puppy ............ B*stards !! "No thank you, Dear but I'd really like them to run the trains on time instead" was the best I could do through a hasty plastic smile Now where's that constant moaning thread .................... EDIT - I really must sense check the crap I write before posting ..................... Edited September 5, 2017 by Southernman46 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted September 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2017 . The video taken at Eastleigh is rather cruel, the new livery looks drab and unimaginative against the "old" one. Shame. . Because it is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted September 4, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 4, 2017 Oh dear. I think a child of 5 could have come up with this . I wonder how many millions they paid the PR Bureau ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapford34102 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Yes, oh dear, oh dear, oh dear............ Someone been looking for inspiration in a kitchen showroom then ? I have no idea if SWR management read this but for what it's worth my humble opinion is that it looks cheap, not cheap and cheerful or cheap and simple, just cheap. Yours etc, Stu P.S. Black is a sod to keep clean, ask anyone with a black car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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