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(This long topic copied from Old RMweb -- please make new posts in the Templot - pre-sales questions - 4 topic.)

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Comment posted by Rick_Skateboard on Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:37 am

 

Hello.

 

If I were to draw a cross-over from one line to the other in double track, would Templot draw all the interlaced sleepers?

 

Cheers,

 

Rick

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??? posted on Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:38 pm

 

Rick_Skateboard wrote:

If I were to draw a cross-over from one line to the other in double track, would Templot draw all the interlaced sleepers?

Hi Rick,

 

Templot includes full controls to create custom timbering layouts (called "timber shoving"), but it doesn't do it for you. That's because there is an infinite number of prototype permutations, and only you know what you want. When you click "make crossover" Templot automatically leaves a space in the timbering on one side, to remind you that some timber shoving will be needed to extend long timbers across from the other side. It's quite quick to do -- just click on the timber's number and then press the L key (lengthen) a few times. Each press adds 6" (scale) to the length.

 

If you wish, every individual timber and sleeper in Templot can be adjusted for exact size and position, but normally it's only necessary to adjust a few of them where they conflict. Here is the dialog from Templot with the timber shoving controls:

 

shove_timber_dialog.png

 

Here's an example of a printed template from Templot, showing long timbers and the results of some timber shoving:

 

long_timber_shoving.png

 

regards,

 

Martin.

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Comment posted by timlewis on Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:33 pm

 

And, just to prove that you don't have to be Martin to be able to do this, here's a screen shot of part of Coldstream, complete with shoved, interlaced NER turnouts, including a crossover.

 

file.php?id=58845

 

Templot does take a while getting used to, and if I've not used it for a while I find I've forgotten a lot, but the tutorials are excellent and once you've mastered simple turnouts and a few other basics, it's quite easy to join individual templates together. I've probably only used a small fraction of its functionality, but if you concentrate on the various 'peg and notch' functions, and the 'snaking' functions that allow you to move turnouts along previous plain track alignments, you'll make rapid progress. Initially these functions can be hard to find, but the help files are worth reading (unlike many help files). It's also worth taking time to properly understand the 'storage box', 'background' and 'current template' concepts: this took me a while, but once the penny dropped it makes life a lot easier.

 

Templot has its infuriating idiosyncracies, doesn't any software? (take a bow Excel icon_mutter.gif), but if you want proper, infinitely customisable, flowing track, none of the other track design packages come close. Other posters have already mentioned the excellent customer support as well, both via RMWeb or (mainly) the Templot Users Group: you won't find better.

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??? posted on Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:14 pm

 

A sneak preview of what's coming soon in Templot (this will be a free upgrade icon_smile.gif ):

 

sketchbook_draft_800.png

 

For more information click: pug progress report

 

regards,

 

Martin.

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Comment posted by 10800 on Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:20 pm

 

Ooooo, that looks fun! (and useful!) icon_thumbsup2.gif

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Comment posted by ShedcombeUponFrome on Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:16 pm

 

Superb Martin !!!!

 

You're a treasure to the modelling community !!!!!! icon_clap.gif icon_clap.gif icon_thumbsup2.gif icon_thumbsup2.gif

 

Regards, Michel

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Comment posted by Taz on Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:26 pm

 

Hi Martin,

 

Could you clarify a point about the license terms please?

 

I'm going to be working away from home on and off for a bit in the near future and I would like to buy and install Templot on my works laptop to help while away the hours in my hotel room.

However once that is all over I would then like to transfer back to my home PC.

Will I be able to do this or does 1 license = 1 machine?

 

Thanks,

 

Brian.

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??? posted on Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:49 pm

 

Taz wrote:

I'm going to be working away from home on and off for a bit in the near future and I would like to buy and install Templot on my works laptop to help while away the hours in my hotel room. However once that is all over I would then like to transfer back to my home PC.

Hi Brian,

 

Email or PM me. icon_smile.gif

 

regards,

 

Martin.

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Comment posted by Ealing on Fri May 22, 2009 5:44 pm

 

It looks brilliant! I wish it was available for the Mac.

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Comment posted by flubrush on Fri May 22, 2009 7:55 pm

 

Ealing wrote:

It looks brilliant! I wish it was available for the Mac.

I believe it runs well on the Mac using Windows emulators.

 

Here's a page or two of pointers to discussions on the Templot forum and web site

 

http://www.templot.c...e=10&zoom_and=1

 

Jim

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??? posted on Sat May 23, 2009 4:25 am

 

Ealing wrote:

It looks brilliant! I wish it was available for the Mac.

Hi,

 

Templot is a Windows program, and I have no plans to create a native Mac version. However, users report that Templot runs fine on the latest Intel-based Macs running Windows under both Bootcamp and Parallels Desktop.*

 

As Jim mentioned, on earlier Macs it can be run using the VirtualPC emulator, although performance is rather clunky.

 

There is detailed information about using Templot on an Intel-based Mac computer at: http://groups.yahoo....ot/message/7167

 

and at: http://85a.co.uk/for...hp?post_id=2636

 

There are some more user notes at: http://85a.co.uk/for...=287&forum_id=1

 

and some screenshots showing Templot on a Mac at: http://85a.co.uk/for...iew_topic.php?i ... o=732#p732

 

If you need more info, why not join the friendly Templot Club forum and ask other Mac users -- http://85a.co.uk/forum

 

*You should be aware that I know next to nothing about Macs icon_smile.gif , so any specific Mac-related support would have to come from other Mac users.

 

regards,

 

Martin.

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Comment posted by Rick_Skateboard on Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:34 pm

 

Hello,

 

I'm planning to have a clean out on my comuter, formatting the hard drive and reinstalling Windows. When it's all back up and running I intend to buy Templot. If I were to format the hard drive again, could I save Templot onto a disk and re-install it after the format?

 

Cheers,

 

Rick

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??? posted on Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:18 pm

 

Rick_Skateboard wrote:

I'm planning to have a clean out on my comuter, formatting the hard drive and reinstalling Windows. When it's all back up and running I intend to buy Templot. If I were to format the hard drive again, could I save Templot onto a disk and re-install it after the format?

Hi Rick,

 

Yes. See my PM for details.

 

regards,

 

Martin.

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Comment posted by twa_dogs on Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:42 pm

 

Martin,

 

thanks for posting the links to the templot forum posts regarding running templot on OsX. I realise that posting over there might be more productive but until I find a way to make this all work affordably I would prefer not to join another forum so am greatly appreciative of any answer you may care to give in here.

 

One of the posts mentions "codeweavers' crossover mac" as a way of getting round the expense of not only having to purchase an emulator/dual boot system but also a full licensed copy of windows (even with the imminent demise of Vista this is by no means anywhere approaching a cheap option). Have you heard of anyone doing this successfully? At a glance this seems like a viable route for me giving me access to one app without adding nearly ?‚??300 to the cost of doing so.

As far as other options go, while I can get a trial copy of VMfusion there is unfortunately no equivalent trial of windows or even a windows lite (with all the guff strippped out) for me to try your product. I am in no way complaining about your product or service (reading around excellent seems to be the benchmark comment) but as a newcomer to it all (i'm a photoshop kid so even CAD is confusing) it is a bit of a daunting step to take especially when the costs start stacking up.

 

Regards

 

Steve

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??? posted on Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:45 pm

 

twa_dogs wrote:

One of the posts mentions "codeweavers' crossover mac" as a way of getting round the expense of not only having to purchase an emulator/dual boot system but also a full licensed copy of windows (even with the imminent demise of Vista this is by no means anywhere approaching a cheap option). Have you heard of anyone doing this successfully?

Hi Steve,

 

Sorry, I don't know enough about Macs to answer that. You could try asking on a Mac forum.

 

The cheapest and simplest way to get going is almost certainly to buy a second-hand Windows computer. Templot will run on all versions of Windows back to Windows95, and such computers can often be found in your local small-ads for a few pounds. It will be a bit slow and clunky to use compared with your Mac, to say the least, but the finished printed track templates will be identical to those from the latest high-tech system.

 

Another way forward would be to install the Linux operating system on your Mac, and then the Linux Wine emulator for Windows. Templot runs ok under Wine according to reports -- everything you need to know about that, kindly compiled by Adrian Cherry, is at: Templot on Linux .

 

Please bear in mind that Templot is a Windows program, so the level of support I can offer Mac and Linux users is limited. But there are several Mac users of Templot on Templot Club who would be happy to help.

 

regards,

 

Martin.

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Comment posted by twa_dogs on Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:25 pm

 

once again thanks for the help and suggestions. I'm now hunting for a cheap secondhand laptop to run templot on - space at home currently restricts having large desktop sustems. The masochist in me also now wonders if linux would run under VM fusion and hence templot via wine - long way round for a short cut but an intriguing problem.

 

BTW is it possible to import resized OS maps from which to derive the track plan?

 

Cheers

Steve

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??? posted on Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:32 pm

 

twa_dogs wrote:

BTW is it possible to import resized OS maps from which to derive the track plan?

Hi Steve,

 

Yes. You can use scanned maps, layout plans or a rough sketch as a background guide to your track plan. For a scan Templot can automatically scale it for you. For OS Planning Portal maps copied from the web, it is easier to do your own calculations. More about that at:

 

viewtopic.php?p=604094#p604094

 

Here's a video showing track being aligned over a scanned sketch: Templot starter video .

 

There is lots more info on the Templot web site: Search for "picture shape" .

 

regards,

 

Martin.

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