RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted March 22, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22, 2018 Katie, Price £99 now see the media get confused by punctuation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_sterling Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Katie, Price £99 now see the media get confused by punctuation Oooo, you beat me to that one! MSN's Google bashers go into Meltdown! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted March 22, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22, 2018 It's a good job Jordan doesn't have a port to stop in . . if it came via Suez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 It's a good job Jordan doesn't have a port to stop in . . if it came via Suez. Although I think it's seen its fair share of seamen. I'm off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I suspect that the consignment of Barclay's has not been affected by recent shipping incidents, given the product pages are still giving 09/04/2018 as the date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) After some pub discussions about the relative frame length of prototype 14" and 16" Andrew Barclay 0-4-0 saddle tanks following the publication of this drawing it shows that the 16" AB at 21'1 " is 17 inches longer the the 14" straight cab AB with a frame length of 19' 8". So a question to one of those that has managed been lucky enough get their hands on an examples of both 14 and 16 " model AB's in advance of the general release. Is the 16 inch Hatton's model almost a full 6mm longer than the 14 inch version or is the dimensioned drawing incorrect? TIA P ( Edited to correct f for r) Edited March 29, 2018 by Porcy Mane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 A short running session on my 00 Gauge Micro Layout "Compton Quay", featuring 16" "Katie" shunting an assortment of Mixed Wagons on the Quayside. Hope you enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b08MUBFxX8I 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Tasty, very tasty, but it really does need a crew in that open cab - or a big face on the smokebox door Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) Tasty, very tasty, but it really does need a crew in that open cab - or a big face on the smokebox door Yeah, got to get around to painting the crew at some point Edited March 30, 2018 by SDJR7F88 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) After some pub discussions about the relative frame length of prototype 14" and 16" Andrew Barclay 0-4-0 saddle tanks following the publication of this drawing it shows that the 16" AB at 21'1 " is 17 inches longer the the 14" straight cab AB with a frame length of 19' 8". So a question to one of those that has managed been lucky enough get their hands on an examples of both 14 and 16 " model AB's in advance of the general release. Is the 16 inch Hatton's model almost a full 6mm longer than the 14 inch version or is the dimensioned drawing incorrect? TIA P ( Edited to correct f for r) Looking at the images of both types on the Hattons site, it would appear not - it seems that both types are the same length over buffer beams (using the track and steel ruler included in the pictures as reference points). Earlier in the thread: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/126141-andrew-barclay-14-16-0-4-0st-in-oo-gauge/?p=2861576 Hatton's Dave shows the length over chassis (labelled as 16" but clearly the 14" version because the springs are level with one another; the 16" has the front one mounted lower) as 81mm. The images in this post http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/126141-andrew-barclay-14-16-0-4-0st-in-oo-gauge/?p=2853005 would seem to confirm that. This leaves me with a bit of a quandary. I've pre-ordered a 16" but if it's not the right length then I want to know where the additional length has been lost if at all possible. My suspicion is off the cab length because the cab on the 14" and 16" seems to be the same moulding and the footplate which - since I'll be replacing the chassis - doesn't bother me, but if the tank has been made too short I'll change to a 14" since I want a Barclay but an accurate one and lengthening the tank would be a complete faff... Adam Edited March 30, 2018 by Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 The review in the April Model Rail gives the length over buffers as 92mm for the 14" and 94.5mm for the 16". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 The review in the April Model Rail gives the length over buffers as 92mm for the 14" and 94.5mm for the 16". Thanks, that's helpful (and possibly reassuring). Proper drawings, that's what I need, at this point... Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Thanks, that's helpful (and possibly reassuring). Proper drawings, that's what I need, at this point... Adam Drawings of Barclays seem to be few and far between. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 I’ve been admiring these engines from afar and while they look fantastic, I have two queries about them. With the exception of the GWR and CR versions, do any date from before 1947? My layout is entirely pre-nationalisation so all the NCB or other state owned industries wouldn’t be right. Also, do any AB enthusiasts know if any of the Devonport Dockyard ABs were the 14” or 16” variety? I looked in my bible on the matter, Paul Burkhalter’s otherwise exhaustive book on the railway, but couldn’t get confirmation. It would be great to have one in their smart maroon livery with my collection of Wessex Wagons’s naval wagons All of them date from before 1947 with the oldest being built in 1926. However they are all in either preserved or post 1947 liveries. The GWR and Caledonian versions are preserved examples I'm afraid. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 All of them date from before 1947 with the oldest being built in 1926. However they are all in either preserved or post 1947 liveries. The GWR and Caledonian versions are preserved examples I'm afraid. Jason Might appear to be splitting hairs but the one I am intending to model AB2247 is listed on the web as 1948. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 (edited) Might appear to be splitting hairs but the one I am intending to model AB2247 is listed on the web as 1948. Which one is 2247? The highest number Hattons are making is 2244. I was answering a question on which of them are suitable for a pre 1947 railway. Jason Edited March 31, 2018 by Steamport Southport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 It was nice to look in Hattons showcase at Ally Pally and see that Katie is a deal darker than it appears in most of the published photos so far. That was my only reservation about ordering the red one. The darker shade is distinctly less toy-like than it sometimes appears in pics. Assuming the Barclay arrives in a suitable gap in my other expenditure (B4, P, other odds and somethings) I can see at least one of the others displayed in said cabinet joining it. I might yet get a Backworth WD but I do have rather a lot of WDs already..... Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 That was my only reservation about ordering the red one. The darker shade is distinctly less toy-like than it sometimes appears in pics. The strong directional side light in the video in post #758 (at 1' 46") shows the rear cab screen to be highly translucent. Makes me wonder if it is painted at all or just pre coloured plastic? P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 The strong directional side light in the video in post #758 (at 1' 46") shows the rear cab screen to be highly translucent. Makes me wonder if it is painted at all or just pre coloured plastic? P It was nice to look in Hattons showcase at Ally Pally and see that Katie is a deal darker than it appears in most of the published photos so far. That was my only reservation about ordering the red one. The darker shade is distinctly less toy-like than it sometimes appears in pics. Les It's a question I was thinking when I received the model, but from what I can gather it is painted. I think the tone of the red suffers some the same issue that the Hornby Red Sentinels have, had so much trouble when first photographing and filming my little ESSO Red one, looked almost pink on camera. Like the Sentinel, it seems to me most noticeable around the thinner parts of the model, like the cab. Though when looking at the model in the flesh it is not at all noticeable. Hopefully my pictures from post #656 might be of help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Under Starters Orders... Well, maybe not. I can hear the sighs and see the drooping shoulders. http://www.hattons.co.uk/NewsDetail.aspx?id=186 "Delivery Update" 05/04/2018 We have been informed by our freight forwarders that the container with our Andrew Barclay locos in is currently just off France and due to dock in the next few days. This is a few days later than expected. Due to this we now expect to start the despatch of the locomotives on Monday 16th April." Rough passage through the Bay of Biscay? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Well this will allow the bank account to be happy for a little bit longer! It is going to be a few big days for Hatton's to unpack, repack, label and post. Then Katie and friends will be flinging themselves all over the world! I know I have a lovely little Katie heading in my direction. So there will be new colonies of Barclays all over the world! (Not all named Katie!) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I agree. On the one hand its a bit of a bummer, but its only a week and more importantly 16 April is the day after pay day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 (edited) Considering the time from announcement to delivery is only months its not been that long we have had to wait. Just think how long we are waiting for Bachmann to deliver even Hornby seem to be taking less time ! Its just that shorter announcement to delivery times leaves less time to find the available funds especially as production runs seem to be shorter, the risk of of not getting the item is more unless your prepared to pay more for a second hand item (supply demand effect on price ). Edited April 6, 2018 by johnd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_sterling Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Considering the time from announcement to delivery is only months its not been that long we have had to wait. Just think how long we are waiting for Bachmann to deliver even Hornby seem to be taking less time ! Absolutely, I've lost track of how many years i've been waiting for Bachmann to finish the class 24/1! Paul. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Under Starters Orders... Well, maybe not. I can hear the sighs and see the drooping shoulders. http://www.hattons.co.uk/NewsDetail.aspx?id=186 "Delivery Update" 05/04/2018 We have been informed by our freight forwarders that the container with our Andrew Barclay locos in is currently just off France and due to dock in the next few days. This is a few days later than expected. Due to this we now expect to start the despatch of the locomotives on Monday 16th April." Rough passage through the Bay of Biscay? Not just that, the update sounds like the container has made the journey on its own! Whats happened to the ship? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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