Tinsley Park wagon tippler

[bazjones1711]

BSC Tinsley Park scrap bay wagon tippler , inspiration for a micro layout, photo taken during the works upgrade i think , official picture of the then English Steels Corporation works , bought of EBAY . copyright reserved English Steel Corporation Ltd

Heres a pic of my tippler on BSC Shepcote Lane Tippler Sidings

Edited September 15, 2017 by bazjones1711

[Fat Controller]

Not heard of a tippler being used for scrap before; the ones I knew used gantry cranes with electro-magnets to lift the scrap (and often pieces of the wagon body), and deposit it either directly into the charging skip or into a holding area. The latter would often be divided so that different grades of scrap could be separated.

[bazjones1711]

The photo was described as the scrap bay , but if anyone knows otherwise please post, may have been a materials handling bay for other materials , but in the photo you can see ladles either side of the tippler. If it was for coal , lime etc I would imagine that this would have been unloaded and stockpiled not as the pic shows , directly into ladles ? Any information appreciated

Edited September 16, 2017 by bazjones1711

[Fat Controller]

The photo was described as the scrap bay , but if anyone knows otherwise please post, may have been a materials handling bay for other materials , but in the photo you can see ladles either side of the tippler. If it was for coal , lime etc I would imagine that this would have been unloaded and stockpiled not as the pic shows , directly into ladles ? Any information appreciated

At Landore, (incidentally part of the same Group of British Steel as Tinsley Park ), the tippler that unloaded the coke was adjacent to the scrap bay. It would be stockpiled, then loaded into purpose-built charging skips that ran up an inclined plane to the top of the furnace. However, that was for a hot-blast cupola, producing high-grade cast iron. I think Tinsley Park was/is an electric arc furnace, producing steel, and so wouldn't require coke.

The ladles look as though they are ones for handling hot metal; they could be stored where they are, before or after relining- the location looks similar to where the brickies worked on similar ladles. It kept them out of the way, without having to have another heavy-duty gantry crane elsewhere.

[Arthur]

 

It would be a tippler for handling scrap. As Brian says, Tinsley Park was a purpose built electric arc steel making plant and would have consumed fragmented scrap. That is lighter and shredded scrap, not big old castings, so handling by tipper would have been sensible.

 

Tinsley Park would have had no need for anything else in bulk other than an amount of limestone and I doubt that would have been handled in that tippler. It may well have arrived by road from the adjacent Peak Distruct by the time Tinsley Park became operational.

 

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[hmrspaul]

The wagon is a little unusual - one of the WD MoS slope sided minerals, which were rated to carry only 16tons.

 

Paul

[Mark Saunders]

The wagon is a little unusual - one of the WD MoS slope sided minerals, which were rated to carry only 16tons.

 

Paul

 

16 ton minerals were widely used for scrap and fragmentised scrap is not as dense as solid steel the below cut and pasted rom this link https://www.letsrecycle.com/prices/metals/ferrous-metal-prices/ferrous-grades/

 

 

Grade 3A

Fragmentised, old light steel arisings fragmentised into pieces not exceeding 150mm in any direction. Must be free from dirt, free non-ferrous metals and foreign material and exclude excessive moisture, introduced loose cast iron, incinerator material, grindings, swarf, turnings and borings. Should also be free from tin cans. Must conform to the following specifications:

• Density: 1 tonne per cubic metre minimum
• Sn content: 0.03% max
• Cu content:  0.20% max

Grade 3B

Fragmentised, old light steel arisings fragmentised into pieces not exceeding 200mm in any direction. Must be free from dirt, free non-ferrous metals and foreign material and exclude excessive moisture, introduced loose cast iron, incinerator material, grindings, swarf, turnings and borings. Should also be free from tin cans. Must conform to the following specifications:

• Density: 0.8 tonne per cubic metre minimum
• Sn content: 0.03% max
• Cu content:  0.25% max

Grade 3C

Fragmentised, old light steel arisings fragmentised into pieces. Must be free from dirt, free non-ferrous metals and foreign material and exclude excessive moisture, introduced loose cast iron, incinerator material, grindings, swarf, turnings and borings. Should also be free from tin cans.

• Density: 0.60 tonne per cubic metre

Mark Saunders

 

Edit capacity

 

Cubic capacity of a randomly selected 16 t (metric diagram) is 18.371 cubic metres 

Edited September 17, 2017 by Mark Saunders

[Osgood]

And I thought cutting it into 3ft lengths was a chore!!!